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Toshiba 65U5863DB 65" Smart 4K Ultra HD TV, HDR10, Dolby Vision and Freeview Play - £474 using code @ eBay / AO

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Posted 25th Jun
Use code PURE20 to save £75 Providing 4 times the picture quality of a Full HD TV, this Toshiba 4K TV brings you spectacular, lifelike clarity and deep, rich colours on a 65 inch screen. Soak up a stunning 3850 x 2160 resolution that gives you a viewing experience so lifelike that you'll feel like you're right there at the heart of the action, whether it's a rom-com, your favourite soap, the big match or a Hollywood blockbuster!

With Dolby Vision HDR, the TV also offers exceptional scene-be-scene picture accuracy, ensuring exactly the right level of brightness for every TV frame. This TV ensures compatibility with a world-leading portfolio of Dolby mastered content, which includes everything from films and Blu-ray titles to TV series and video games.

You can also tune into a whole new world of home entertainment via the Smart portal. Tune into a world of 4K content through Netflix and YouTube or stream music via TuneIn.
Watch movies on demand, catch-up services, keep up with social media and more. You can also use USB playback to enjoy movies, photos and music stored on a USB stick.

Designed in collaboration with leading hi-fi brand Onkyo, the U58 TV speaker offers a more immersive audio experience, making every seat in the room the perfect 'sweet spot'.

For a hands-free experience, the TV works with Alexa. Talk to Alexa via an Amazon Echo or Echo Dot and control the TV with nothing but the sound of your voice.

Built-in Freeview Play a subscription-free service that enables you to find TV and on demand, all in one place. You get access to 70 of the most popular UK channels, plus the ability to scroll both backwards within the guide to easily catch up on up to 7 days of shows.
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These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The only complaint that I have is that the Freeview Play/Smart TV Hub options, require you to have your tv tuned in with an aerial (Which I don't have), it doesn't simply work by being connected via ethernet.

I think most people probably have some kind of box hooked up to the tv these day so it probably isn't a problem.

Nice TV, Nice Price!
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 10:00

These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The …These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The only complaint that I have is that the Freeview Play/Smart TV Hub options, require you to have your tv tuned in with an aerial (Which I don't have), it doesn't simply work by being connected via ethernet.I think most people probably have some kind of box hooked up to the tv these day so it probably isn't a problem.Nice TV, Nice Price!


Weird, I have a Toshiba 43T6863 which works fine without being connected to an aerial. You just have to accept the terms on the Freeview play app to enable the catch-up services.
Edited by: "chancooluk" 25th Jun
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 10:00

These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The …These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The only complaint that I have is that the Freeview Play/Smart TV Hub options, require you to have your tv tuned in with an aerial (Which I don't have), it doesn't simply work by being connected via ethernet.I think most people probably have some kind of box hooked up to the tv these day so it probably isn't a problem.Nice TV, Nice Price!



These Tohsiba's are pure junk. These Vestel built models are dim and the Freeview tuner has a weak signal.
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 10:00

These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The …These Toshiba TV"s are nice. I've got the 2018 4k (Non-HDR) model. The only complaint that I have is that the Freeview Play/Smart TV Hub options, require you to have your tv tuned in with an aerial (Which I don't have), it doesn't simply work by being connected via ethernet.I think most people probably have some kind of box hooked up to the tv these day so it probably isn't a problem.Nice TV, Nice Price!


I don't want to insult you, but it should always be the best you've ever seen. Like if you get a new car, new phone etc, it should always be the "best you've had" or "best you've seen" etc.

However unfortunately I agree with others, these are really not good TV's in comparison to higher end models.
That's why they are budget tv's at a very low budget price point!
Horrorwood25/06/2019 10:39

I don't want to insult you, but it should always be the best you've ever …I don't want to insult you, but it should always be the best you've ever seen. Like if you get a new car, new phone etc, it should always be the "best you've had" or "best you've seen" etc.However unfortunately I agree with others, these are really not good TV's in comparison to higher end models.


Of course they are not good TV's compare to Higher end models!!! That isn't what I said at all. What I said was, that its a nice TV at a nice price. For a budget TV - no-one is expecting it to have OLED level quality but if what you want is a nice big 4k TV for cheap, this will do the job nicely.

The picture quality is clear and sharp and the colours are colourful! Yes, the blacks may not be the deepest blacks and it may not have local dimming or a VA/IPS display but for £474 for a 65" TV it looks F&!$ing fantastic - Show me a 65" tv with noticeable improvements for the similar money?????
chancooluk25/06/2019 10:12

Weird, I have a Toshiba 43T6863 which works fine without being connected …Weird, I have a Toshiba 43T6863 which works fine without being connected to an aerial. You just have to accept the terms on the Freeview play app to enable the catch-up services.


Maybe they have updated. I'll have to take a look, although I'm not too fussed now as I just run everything through my NVidia Shield
Common.Sense25/06/2019 10:33

These Tohsiba's are pure junk. These Vestel built models are dim and the …These Tohsiba's are pure junk. These Vestel built models are dim and the Freeview tuner has a weak signal.


They are not an enthusiast's TV but they are far from junk. For the average household it is an excellent choice to be able to get a nice looking (It does actually look nice - it doesn't look dim/washed out or whatever unless you compare it to a high end tv) big TV for reasonable money. If you don't think the average person likes it then explain these reviews;

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Edited by: "madmikeyb83" 25th Jun
I bought the 55" version for my mother in law who is 85. She wouldn't know how to use a 'high end' tv!
Her Asda Polaroid 55" is now after 5 years got the purple haze She can't believe she is getting a new 55" tv for £263!
At her age and fraility this will be a revelation for her!

AO will accept free returns within 30 days, if you keep the packaging etc.
If it's faulty or not to your liking, get an exchange or refund.

I will set her tv up for her and organise a exchange/refund if necessary.

There are 'courses for horses' so to speak. I don't know why so many peeps have negative views.
Edited by: "geordie7" 25th Jun
If you must have 65" then this is as good as your going to get within a couple of £100. Personally i'd spend the money on the Phillips 55" with P5 engine, Ambilight and Android TV. Hot
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 11:53

They are not an enthusiast's TV but they are far from junk. For the …They are not an enthusiast's TV but they are far from junk. For the average household it is an excellent choice to be able to get a nice looking (It does actually look nice - it doesn't look dim/washed out or whatever unless you compare it to a high end tv) big TV for reasonable money. If you don't think the average person likes it then explain these reviews;https://ao.com/product/65u5863db-toshiba-tv-black-60034-108.aspxhttps://www.richersounds.com/tosh-65u6863.html



I disagree. I purchased one from Costco just for the Christmas period and returned it.
No digital signal and super dull screen. Poor remote control.
It was total junk.

Spend a bit more can buy a Samsung.
Edited by: "Common.Sense" 25th Jun
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 11:53

They are not an enthusiast's TV but they are far from junk. For the …They are not an enthusiast's TV but they are far from junk. For the average household it is an excellent choice to be able to get a nice looking (It does actually look nice - it doesn't look dim/washed out or whatever unless you compare it to a high end tv) big TV for reasonable money. If you don't think the average person likes it then explain these reviews;https://ao.com/product/65u5863db-toshiba-tv-black-60034-108.aspxhttps://www.richersounds.com/tosh-65u6863.html


Like I said previously, those people are comparing them to probably a 32" 720p LCD from god knows when. Their newest TV is always going to be their best. Until they compare it side by side to something better then they have no clue.
Common.Sense25/06/2019 12:22

I disagree. I purchased one from Costco just for the Christmas period and …I disagree. I purchased one from Costco just for the Christmas period and returned it.No digital signal and super dull screen. Poor remote control.It was total junk.Spend a bit more can buy a Samsung.


Yes but that's what I'm trying to say, you are obviously a bit more of an enthusiast than your average buyer. An average buyer wont really notice the difference between a slightly more expensive samsung one, they wont notice the difference between colour ranges, they wont even know or notice screen tearing, even if you explain it to them. They just want to be able to see everything in high resolution on a giant screen at an affordable price.

I'm sorry but you are completely wrong to say these are junk - you are correct to say they are not high end but not to say junk.
Horrorwood25/06/2019 12:33

Like I said previously, those people are comparing them to probably a 32" …Like I said previously, those people are comparing them to probably a 32" 720p LCD from god knows when. Their newest TV is always going to be their best. Until they compare it side by side to something better then they have no clue.


Exactly my point and some people are happy for it to be the "Best they have ever seen" for the price they pay for it. Not everyone wants or can afford the very best quality high end items. I may be able to afford a 65" OLED for example but I'm not going to buy one because I don't think at £2k+ they are worth the added benefit over a £600-£700 4k TV. I understand the differences but for many people that doesnt matter.

Some people talk on here like if they buy this cheap tv it will be like going back to watching VHS or something. The average buyer of TV's are not enthusiasts and they typically want size/price/quality ratio to be even, not something high end where Price/Quality is high.

Many people see the High End TV's posted on this very website, so they know there are better TV's than this out there but they don't care as they don't want to pay that price for them. For people who buy budget TV's this is a good buy.
I've still got my 50" panny plasma 10 years old. Also Benq projector 9 years old (changing lamp brings it back to life £20 ebay)
I use the latest humax freesat smart boxes for both
I won't replace my panny plasma until oled/qled comes down to an affordable sensible price, because oled/qled is the only real equivalent image quality to plasma!
Edited by: "geordie7" 25th Jun
I am still using my 49" 4K 3D tv branded as a Toshiba that cost all of £219 how many years ago and has given me flawless performance and a picture I am happy with. It may not be as bright as say Samsung but then neither is real life. If you are on a budget and want a bigger screen then this may be fine for your needs in my humble opinion :-)
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 12:42

Exactly my point and some people are happy for it to be the "Best they …Exactly my point and some people are happy for it to be the "Best they have ever seen" for the price they pay for it. Not everyone wants or can afford the very best quality high end items. I may be able to afford a 65" OLED for example but I'm not going to buy one because I don't think at £2k+ they are worth the added benefit over a £600-£700 4k TV. I understand the differences but for many people that doesnt matter.Some people talk on here like if they buy this cheap tv it will be like going back to watching VHS or something. The average buyer of TV's are not enthusiasts and they typically want size/price/quality ratio to be even, not something high end where Price/Quality is high.Many people see the High End TV's posted on this very website, so they know there are better TV's than this out there but they don't care as they don't want to pay that price for them. For people who buy budget TV's this is a good buy.


Fair point.

But another point is that a lot of people will buy this TV, they'll also then have a brand new car on their drive that they spend 30 mins a day in going to work.

They then come home and spend hours a day in front of the TV.

This is true for a lot of people in my opinion and tbh I think they have their priorities the wrong way around.
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 12:35

Yes but that's what I'm trying to say, you are obviously a bit more of an …Yes but that's what I'm trying to say, you are obviously a bit more of an enthusiast than your average buyer. An average buyer wont really notice the difference between a slightly more expensive samsung one, they wont notice the difference between colour ranges, they wont even know or notice screen tearing, even if you explain it to them. They just want to be able to see everything in high resolution on a giant screen at an affordable price. I'm sorry but you are completely wrong to say these are junk - you are correct to say they are not high end but not to say junk.



I am not a enthusiast. I have no idea how to calibrate a television.

I took one look at it and compared it to my 10-year old plasma. The difference was stunning.
A washed out picture. Everything about it is cheap. The remote is horrible. The setup menu terrible. The digital tuner had no reception. The nits are so low.

My sons preferred watching on a 24" kitchen television than this television.
In my opinion it is Vestel junk. The only thing going for it is that it is cheap.
Each to their own.
Common.Sense25/06/2019 13:59

I am not a enthusiast. I have no idea how to calibrate a television. I …I am not a enthusiast. I have no idea how to calibrate a television. I took one look at it and compared it to my 10-year old plasma. The difference was stunning.A washed out picture. Everything about it is cheap. The remote is horrible. The setup menu terrible. The digital tuner had no reception. The nits are so low.My sons preferred watching on a 24" kitchen television than this television.In my opinion it is Vestel junk. The only thing going for it is that it is cheap.Each to their own.


The fact that you are talking about owning a plasma (10 year old or not) and the fact that you are talking about the nits being so low, already proves that you would be categorised as an enthusiast i.e you know far more than the average buyer about the technicalities of the spec.
Horrorwood25/06/2019 13:56

Fair point.But another point is that a lot of people will buy this TV, …Fair point.But another point is that a lot of people will buy this TV, they'll also then have a brand new car on their drive that they spend 30 mins a day in going to work.They then come home and spend hours a day in front of the TV.This is true for a lot of people in my opinion and tbh I think they have their priorities the wrong way around.



They can show off with their car when they are out. They can only show off their television to their friends.
Horrorwood25/06/2019 13:56

Fair point.But another point is that a lot of people will buy this TV, …Fair point.But another point is that a lot of people will buy this TV, they'll also then have a brand new car on their drive that they spend 30 mins a day in going to work.They then come home and spend hours a day in front of the TV.This is true for a lot of people in my opinion and tbh I think they have their priorities the wrong way around.


You may well be right about peoples priorities but it's their choice. The thing that gets me is that every single TV thread on here turns into an elitist snobbish argument about High End quality. What we have to mark these TV's on is whether they are a good deal for the people who are likely to buy them. Are they a good deal for peopple who want the best quality, most cinematic experience to be paired with a dolby atmos 8.1 surround system - no. Are they a good deal for people who want the biggest screen size possible at the highest resolution within a budget and the picture quality looks as good as they would expect it to - yes. Anyone seriously considering this type of TV will by default be not looking for something high end, is the picture good enough for that person -yes.
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 14:02

The fact that you are talking about owning a plasma (10 year old or not) …The fact that you are talking about owning a plasma (10 year old or not) and the fact that you are talking about the nits being so low, already proves that you would be categorised as an enthusiast i.e you know far more than the average buyer about the technicalities of the spec.



All one has to do is use a search engine to do a bit of research. It does not prove competence.
I would say the average user does so.
Dull television. Why? Search engine, discusses nits. Not rocket science.
What is QLED? What is FALD? One can read the basics.
Once you see FALD QLED, this is super junk, but not a fair comparison.

Compared to low end models, which last December were c£600, I would class this model as junk.
My opinion. It will not change.
Costco did not publish my review! This says it all.
Common.Sense25/06/2019 14:03

They can show off with their car when they are out. They can only show off …They can show off with their car when they are out. They can only show off their television to their friends.


True. Last thing I went to had friends discussing their cars that they didn't own. I don't think OLED TV's were mentioned.
Common.Sense25/06/2019 14:10

All one has to do is use a search engine to do a bit of research. It does …All one has to do is use a search engine to do a bit of research. It does not prove competence.I would say the average user does so.Dull television. Why? Search engine, discusses nits. Not rocket science.What is QLED? What is FALD? One can read the basics.Once you see FALD QLED, this is super junk, but not a fair comparison.Compared to low end models, which last December were c£600, I would class this model as junk.My opinion. It will not change. Costco did not publish my review! This says it all.


I know I will not change your opinion and thats ok, we are all entitled to our own but I do think your thinking is flawed. Everyday buyers do not check reviews, heck, I've even had friends who have neglected recommendations of better cheaper technology just because they couldn't buy it from Argos and they want to buy it from Argos because they have an argos card! That's your average buyer right there! Those who do any form of actual research are the 1%. Also, I'm fine with people thinking deals like this are not good but if you are not able to provide alternatives that provide similar specs for equal/less money then I think it makes it harder to justify your opinion of the product. Just my two cents though.
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madmikeyb8325/06/2019 14:58

I know I will not change your opinion and thats ok, we are all entitled to …I know I will not change your opinion and thats ok, we are all entitled to our own but I do think your thinking is flawed. Everyday buyers do not check reviews, heck, I've even had friends who have neglected recommendations of better cheaper technology just because they couldn't buy it from Argos and they want to buy it from Argos because they have an argos card! That's your average buyer right there! Those who do any form of actual research are the 1%. Also, I'm fine with people thinking deals like this are not good but if you are not able to provide alternatives that provide similar specs for equal/less money then I think it makes it harder to justify your opinion of the product. Just my two cents though.


I would say any educated person would do some research.
madmikeyb8325/06/2019 14:58

I know I will not change your opinion and thats ok, we are all entitled to …I know I will not change your opinion and thats ok, we are all entitled to our own but I do think your thinking is flawed. Everyday buyers do not check reviews, heck, I've even had friends who have neglected recommendations of better cheaper technology just because they couldn't buy it from Argos and they want to buy it from Argos because they have an argos card! That's your average buyer right there! Those who do any form of actual research are the 1%. Also, I'm fine with people thinking deals like this are not good but if you are not able to provide alternatives that provide similar specs for equal/less money then I think it makes it harder to justify your opinion of the product. Just my two cents though.


Yeah lets not start with a discussion on people that earn decent money but can't afford decent things because they have everything on credit...

It realllllly annoys me!
A Ferrari is better than a Vauxhall, but the Ferrari cost 10 times more but both are cars who take you from a to b . But if you have the money you can impresse . Thast for who think this tv is not great , well I bought 4k LG tv few years back top of the range for a a grand . They was not any 4k broadcast, if you compare it for high end yes this is rubbish but compare it for a 32 inch LCD tv who is 10 y old yes this is fantastic .
Edited by: "BigBen75020" 25th Jun
geordie725/06/2019 12:45

I've still got my 50" panny plasma 10 years old. Also Benq projector 9 …I've still got my 50" panny plasma 10 years old. Also Benq projector 9 years old (changing lamp brings it back to life £20 ebay)I use the latest humax freesat smart boxes for bothI won't replace my panny plasma until oled/qled comes down to an affordable sensible price, because oled/qled is the only real equivalent image quality to plasma!


I repair tellies just repaired my Lg plasma for the second time bad ysus board total cost of repair a tenner.
My 103 ich panny plasma beats any lcd/led hands down - ever played WOT or watched footie on 100 incher.
They are on ebay regularly pick one up for £500 just do no tell the missus.
Original retail cost was £64,000

Plasma until oled is affordable you have it spot on!
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