Toshiba Satelite C660D, AMD P340 CPU, 250GB HD, 4GB RAM £304.99 @ Zavvi ebay outlet
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Toshiba Satelite C660D, AMD P340 CPU, 250GB HD, 4GB RAM £304.99 @ Zavvi ebay outlet

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Found 20th Jan 2011Made hot 20th Jan 2011
Toshiba C660D-124, P340, 250GB HD, 4GB RAM

Quality and value. The Satellite C660D ( PSCOUE-01D00KEN ) is a great-value, great-quality everyday laptop and features a 39.6cm (15.6”) TruBrite display and textured matte black finish. Added multimedia functionality includes a media card reader for quick and convenient transfers from your digital camera and other devices.
Processor
Type: AMD Athlon II Dual-Core Processor P340
Clock Speed: 2.2 GHz
2nd Level Cache: 1 MB

Operating system
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery)

Design Colour
Colour: Black finish with textured pattern and black keyboard

System Memory
Standard: 4,096 (2,048 + 2,048) MB
Maximum Expandability: 8,192 MB
Technology: DDR3 RAM (1,066 MHz)

Hard disk
Capacity: 250 GB
Drive Rotation: 5,400 rpm

DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer)
Compatibility: CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM
Maximum Speed: Read: 24x CD-ROM, 8x
DVD-ROM/ Write: 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 24x US CD-RW, 8x DVD-R, 6x DVD-R (Double Layer), 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R, 6x DVD+R (Double Layer), 8x DVD+RW, 5x DVD-RAM type : DVD Super Multi (Double Layer) drive

Display
Size: 39.6cm (15.6")
Type: Toshiba TruBrite HD TFT High Brightness display with 16 : 9 aspect ratio and LED backlighting
Internal Resolution: 1,366 x 768

Graphics adaptor
Manufacturer: ATI
Type: ATI Radeon HD 4250 Graphics
Memory: up to 1,917 MB shared memory with 4 GB system memory installed, and up to 3,067 MB with 8 GB system memory, (with pre-installed 64-bit operating system)
Memory Type: shared

Internal video modes
The following internal video modes are supported:
Resolution: 1366 x 768

Max External Video Modes
Max Resolution: 2,048 x 1,536
Max Refresh Rate: 100 Hz
Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate: 1,600 x 1,200

Interfaces
1 X DC-in
1 X external monitor
1 X RJ-45
1 X external microphone
1 X headphone (stereo)
1 X integrated VGA Web Camera with built-in microphone
2 (Right 2) X USB 2.0
1 X Multi-Card Reader (supports SD Card up to 2 GB, miniSD/microSD™ Card with adapter up to 2 GB, SDHC Card up to 32 GB, SDXC Card up to 64 GB and MultiMedia Card up to 2 GB)

Expansion
2 X memory slots

Wired communication
Topology: Fast Ethernet LAN
Speed: 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX

Sound System
Supported Audio Format: 24-bit stereo
Speakers: built-in stereo speaker
Manufacturer: Toshiba Bass Enhanced Sound System

Keyboard
keys: 102
Windows keys: Yes
Special Features: Full-size black flat keyboard with 10-digit keypad

Pointing Device
Type: Touch Pad with Multi-Touch Control supporting two-finger scroll, pinch, flip and rotate.

Battery
Technology: lithium-ion
Maximum Life: up to 4h10min (Mobile Mark 2007)

AC Adaptor
Input Voltage: autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage
Output Voltage: 19 V
Output Current: 3.42 A

Physical Dimensions
W x D x H: 380.5 x 254.0 x 28.0 (front) / 35.6 (rear) mm
Weight: starting at 2.30 kg

Warranty
1 year EMEA Carry-in including Pick-up & Return in the UK & Ireland. Toshiba also offers a large range of services to upgrade your standard warranty, please have a look at our website toshiba.co.uk/ser…es/ to find the right service for your product.

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It's been posted before but now it's £15 less, so a tiny bit over £300 including delivery for a dual-core laptop with half-decent graphics, LED-backlit HD-ready display and a quality brand name behind it. I think you'd be hard-pressed to beat this. Some people won't buy AMD but if you were on a budget, you'd do wise to take this mid-range AMD dual-core over a single-core Intel chip. Having used the P320 (a slower variant), I can tell you speed is not an issue, and you have ample RAM and hard disk space to keep things ticking along.

Also as it's going through eBay and Paypal you get the extra insurance and it's Zavvi Outlet so a big firm.

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Looks a really good deal and very tempted. But....the feedback is putting me off.

no hdmi

Odd it doesn't have Wifi built in.

no HDMI port... wont do for me..

Original Poster

They are 99.3% positive feedbacks on that site.

No HDMI is a bit annoying but then this is a budget laptop and something had to give. People using HD interfaces probably wouldn't mind spending a bit more (is that a fair assumption)?

Sunni

Odd it doesn't have Wifi built in.



It does have Wi-Fi built in

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Sunni

Odd it doesn't have Wifi built in.



It has WiFi, they just omitted it for some reason in the listing description. Most likely a mistake.

Same as a few other companies Zavvi outlet is owned by a different company now, The Hut to be precise. I would be catious as i purchased the flip mino when it was on offer by them at the begining of december, and with no shows and numerous emails only just got refunded today, seems the bigger the company the worse the service. This is IMO and just talking of my experience.

Out of interest...why is HDMI important on a laptop, I can't think why I would use it.

dean_brfc

Out of interest...why is HDMI important on a laptop, I can't think why I … Out of interest...why is HDMI important on a laptop, I can't think why I would use it.



To hook up to the tele to watch the footy streams....

benjyyy

To hook up to the tele to watch the footy streams....


Those streams aren't even SDTV quality though, so surely any old output would do? Most HDTVs have a connection for a monitor, the laptop could go into that (either VGA or using VGA>DVI converter).

The poster above mentioned people using HD content so I can't imagine it's to stream things onto the TV.

Well its just handier to connect through HDMI. Then theres all the other internet content which you stream/download and connect to the HDTV

benjyyy

Well its just handier to connect through HDMI. Then theres all the other … Well its just handier to connect through HDMI. Then theres all the other internet content which you stream/download and connect to the HDTV


I guess so, but I still think that resolution would be fine over VGA/DVI. Even HD content could go through those connections.

I get how it's slightly more convenient to do it through HDMI, I'm just surprised it seems to be a deal-breaker for some people.
Edited by: "dean_brfc" 20th Jan 2011

Original Poster

It's unfair to slate a cheap and budget laptop for lack of HDMI, anyone who's serious about running this kind of stuff could have a pretty substantial HTPC for less money anyway - I built my Silverstone Grandia HTPC with a 1.5TB hard disk and HDMI link for £250 or you could have an Acer Revo ION nettop for under £200...

plewis00

It's unfair to slate a cheap and budget laptop for lack of HDMI, anyone … It's unfair to slate a cheap and budget laptop for lack of HDMI, anyone who's serious about running this kind of stuff could have a pretty substantial HTPC for less money anyway - I built my Silverstone Grandia HTPC with a 1.5TB hard disk and HDMI link for £250 or you could have an Acer Revo ION nettop for under £200...



Im certainly not slating it for no HDMI, its still a hot deal. I just feel every laptop sold these days should have a HDMI connection

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benjyyy

Im certainly not slating it for no HDMI, its still a hot deal. I just … Im certainly not slating it for no HDMI, its still a hot deal. I just feel every laptop sold these days should have a HDMI connection



I definitely agree with you there!

But if you had a wide range of models to sell in any given market, (let's take the car market) you wouldn't fit the base model with A/C and alloy wheels!

Of course, HDMI would be better for the end-user but if they can hit different price segments then why not?

dean_brfc

I guess so,...


I connect my laptop via VGA and audio cables; HDMI would be easier.

Musicrab

I connect my laptop via VGA and audio cables; HDMI would be easier.


That's what I used to do with mine as well.

I never argued that HDMI wasn't easier, it just seems an odd thing to be a deal breaker, to me it's just little bonus if it happens to have one, otherwise it's no big deal to use two cables instead of one.

Seems to be a slow CPU compared to some other deals that have been around lately, this deal:

AMD Athlon II P340 Dual-Core, Passmark 1,296
cpubenchmark.net/mid…tml


Other recent & still active deals:

Lenovo G550 2958: Pentium Dual-Core T4500 @ 2.30GHz, Passmark 1,565
cpubenchmark.net/cpu…GHz

Acer Aspire 5742: Intel Core i3 370M @ 2.40GHz Passmark is 2218,
cpubenchmark.net/hig…tml

Samsung E452: Intel Core i3 350M @ 2.27GHz Passmark is 2059,
cpubenchmark.net/mid…tml

Toshiba Satellite L500-1XC: Intel Core i3 330M @ 2.13GHz Passmark is 1955,
cpubenchmark.net/mid…tml


Not voted hot or cold. Some things are good on it (4Gb memory, graphics card, speakers, battery life) some things not so good (no HDMI, only 2 USB, only 250Gb HD)

shaggydabbydo

Seems to be a slow CPU compared to some other deals that have been around … Seems to be a slow CPU compared to some other deals that have been around lately, this deal:AMD Athlon II P340 Dual-Core, Passmark 1,296 [url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html[/url]Other recent & still active deals:Lenovo G550 2958: Pentium Dual-Core T4500 @ 2.30GHz, Passmark 1,565 [url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Pentium+Dual-Core+T4500+%40+2.30GHz]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Pentium+Dual-Core+T4500+%40+2.30GHz[/url]Acer Aspire 5742: Intel Core i3 370M @ 2.40GHz Passmark is 2218,[url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html[/url]Samsung E452: Intel Core i3 350M @ 2.27GHz Passmark is 2059,[url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html[/url]Toshiba Satellite L500-1XC: Intel Core i3 330M @ 2.13GHz Passmark is 1955,[url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html]http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html[/url]Not voted hot or cold. Some things are good on it (4Gb memory, graphics card, speakers, battery life) some things not so good (no HDMI, only 2 USB, only 250Gb HD)



It's not just raw power that matters when comparing mobile cpu's - power consumption is equally, or more important.

It's also worth remembering that a slower CPU does not equal slow CPU. It's far from that. Also, the ATI gpu makes up for any shortfall, when compared to the measly intel 4500 offerings.
Edited by: "intranix" 20th Jan 2011

sister just ordered this for uni work, seems like a good deal to me. Same laptop £50-100 at other shops.

Original Poster

Anyone can show benchmarks showing this or that is faster. Surely the ultimate benchmark is 'is it fast enough'? The average user isn't going to sit two machines side-by-side and compare directly and this P340 CPU will be fast enough for the majority of users - if it's not, I'd say they are doing something much more intense on it, like gaming or video-editing and then they should be ashamed that they're trying to do these tasks on a budget computer.

In this day and age any full-blown dual-core CPUs are generally fast enough (by full-blown I mean exclude Intel's Atom), no-one should be buying single-core because they do get bogged down by even light multi-threading.

It's the same people who show benchmarks to win a debate who also say things like 'Celeron is rubbish' because of some 10-year old myth whereas in reality it's one of the best budget processors out there.

I agree with the passmark nonsense. Someone in the Market for a 300 quid laptop isn't going to care that the machine is slower in synthetic benchmarks. It'll do everything you could reasonably expect a budget machine to do. You could even game a little if you keep the quality settings realistic.

plewis00, "Anyone can show benchmarks showing this or that is faster. Surely the ultimate benchmark is 'is it fast enough'? The average user isn't going to sit two machines side-by-side and compare directly and this P340 CPU will be fast enough for the majority of users - if it's not, I'd say they are doing something much more intense on it, like gaming or video-editing and then they should be ashamed that they're trying to do these tasks on a budget computer."

Indeed, anyone can show benchmarks showing that this or that is faster, I just happened to be the person this time around. Water is wet as well, donchya know.

As for is someone going to put two machines side by side and compare them, they might, especially of they are buying a replacement for an older PC and they want to see how much faster the new one is compared to the old one. But why wait until you've bought the machine? Why not compare the benchmark of your old computers processor with that of the new - now there's an idea (_;)

You state that this processor will be fast enough, based on what - sticking your finger out of the window and seeing how long it takes to dry, or something a little more scientific?



plewis00, "In this day and age any full-blown dual-core CPUs are generally fast enough (by full-blown I mean exclude Intel's Atom), no-one should be buying single-core because they do get bogged down by even light multi-threading."

Some are better than others, hence the benchmarks, so people can see before they buy what kind of performance in relation to other machines (machines they may even be replacing) they're likely to get.


plewis00, "It's the same people who show benchmarks to win a debate who also say things like 'Celeron is rubbish' because of some 10-year old myth whereas in reality it's one of the best budget processors out there."

I've never said 'Celeron is rubbish' so there is an error in your premise.

You've spouted a lot, but with not much to back it up - like the sound of your own opinion do you?

Marekj

I agree with the passmark nonsense. Someone in the Market for a 300 quid … I agree with the passmark nonsense. Someone in the Market for a 300 quid laptop isn't going to care that the machine is slower in synthetic benchmarks. It'll do everything you could reasonably expect a budget machine to do. You could even game a little if you keep the quality settings realistic.



As a person who was very recently in the market for a budget laptop, I was extremely interested to get as much for my money as I could. Benchmarks where one factor which helped me decide.

benjyyy

Im certainly not slating it for no HDMI, its still a hot deal. I just … Im certainly not slating it for no HDMI, its still a hot deal. I just feel every laptop sold these days should have a HDMI connection



no, every laptop sold should have displayport and then we can get rid of HDMI once and for all....

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shaggydabbydo

plewis00, "Anyone can show benchmarks showing this or that is faster. … plewis00, "Anyone can show benchmarks showing this or that is faster. Surely the ultimate benchmark is 'is it fast enough'? The average user isn't going to sit two machines side-by-side and compare directly and this P340 CPU will be fast enough for the majority of users - if it's not, I'd say they are doing something much more intense on it, like gaming or video-editing and then they should be ashamed that they're trying to do these tasks on a budget computer."Indeed, anyone can show benchmarks showing that this or that is faster, I just happened to be the person this time around. Water is wet as well, donchya know.As for is someone going to put two machines side by side and compare them, they might, especially of they are buying a replacement for an older PC and they want to see how much faster the new one is compared to the old one. But why wait until you've bought the machine? Why not compare the benchmark of your old computers processor with that of the new - now there's an idea (_;)You state that this processor will be fast enough, based on what - sticking your finger out of the window and seeing how long it takes to dry, or something a little more scientific?plewis00, "In this day and age any full-blown dual-core CPUs are generally fast enough (by full-blown I mean exclude Intel's Atom), no-one should be buying single-core because they do get bogged down by even light multi-threading."Some are better than others, hence the benchmarks, so people can see before they buy what kind of performance in relation to other machines (machines they may even be replacing) they're likely to get.plewis00, "It's the same people who show benchmarks to win a debate who also say things like 'Celeron is rubbish' because of some 10-year old myth whereas in reality it's one of the best budget processors out there."I've never said 'Celeron is rubbish' so there is an error in your premise.You've spouted a lot, but with not much to back it up - like the sound of your own opinion do you?



I didn't say you said Celeron was rubbish but it was bought up on another thread, and it was still a valid point. Mainly because people seem to have this mindset that Intel is always better than AMD - again, before you pipe up - I'm not pointing the finger at you.

I've spouted up a lot? Your posts have been longer than everyone else's and are synthetic benchmarks and the machines you post are more expensive too (with the exception of the Lenovo).

Is a machine with a PassMark score twice as high, twice as fast in everything? No, it's twice as fast in that benchmark. The fact that this £305 laptop has 4GB of RAM will very likely become more useful to many people vs. a laptop with a marginally faster CPU and 2GB of RAM such as the Lenovo G550.

It was an opinion, but the difference between you and me is that I didn't say it with a smug aura and then try to ram my opinion down your throat. Fine, benchmarks can help make an informed choice but there are many many other factors when choosing a laptop so a single benchmark isn't an argument winner.

plewis00,

Indeed, most of the machines posted recently that I mentioned are more expensive (up to ~£380). I felt they were relevant as they're within ~25% of the price of this deal, yet they seemed to me to offer a compatible, if not better, bang-for-the-buck.

Benchmarks can indeed help make an informed choice but there are many many other factors when choosing a laptop so a single benchmark isn't an argument winner, which is why I wonder why you had a go at someone pointing out benchmarks if they can help - riddle me that.

What you've done that I have not is offered opinion with nothing to back it up. I have offered opinion and given links for peeps to investigate further so they can make a better informed decision regarding where £300+ of their hard earned wonga is going.

For some, this deal is ideal, for others, it may not be and perhaps spending a little more will mean they have what they want rather than being lumbered with ~£300 of somewhat frustration.
Edited by: "shaggydabbydo" 20th Jan 2011

Thanks to OP. Ordered 2, one for each daughter. Seems a little better overall than the Lenovo offer, mostly as it has twice the memory.

Why on earth do people keep going on about no HDMI.? Thats what Sky or Cable are for. Or get a dedicated HD player.

This was a daily and not a weekly deal from Thursday 20th January and hence expired at 8.30 friday morning - the expiry date of 27th January is incorrect and listing has ended. Needs expiring??

Original Poster

Ro_Stav1

This was a daily and not a weekly deal from Thursday 20th January and … This was a daily and not a weekly deal from Thursday 20th January and hence expired at 8.30 friday morning - the expiry date of 27th January is incorrect and listing has ended. Needs expiring??



If it was daily it would expire at 8am so I think it was weekly as I originally said, but they've run out of stock which is another reason for it having ended early (and proof it was a good and popular deal :p).

I will expire it though. Thanks for heads up.
Edited by: "plewis00" 21st Jan 2011

Wrong as usual, this offer was for one day not one week, it ended yesterday!

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drunya

Wrong as usual, this offer was for one day not one week, it ended … Wrong as usual, this offer was for one day not one week, it ended yesterday!



Excuse me - wrong as usual? Is this aimed at me or people in general posting eBay items?

I'm 98% certain (I thought I checked this more than one) it ended because they ran out of stock not because it was a daily deal, because someone managed to purchase it at 8:16am (after 8am, the normal rotation time) and it's not available at the higher price now either. Normally items on daily deal just go back up to a higher price.

A word of warning about these, the wireless drivers malfunction when the power lead is disconnected. This breaks wireless connection to your router when running on battery. It needs a driver update, which is not available on the Toshiba website, you need to find it on the realtek site.
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