Toshiba XG4 THNSN5512GPUK M.2 512Gb NVME 1,500/980 MB/s read/write (USED) - £115 @ CEX
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Toshiba XG4 THNSN5512GPUK M.2 512Gb NVME 1,500/980 MB/s read/write (USED) - £115 @ CEX

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Edited by:"Putterill"Found 21st Oct
Yup the Samsung 960 is faster, but this is no slouch and it's almost half the price. Plenty in stock too.

Specs from Toshiba sales material at google.co.uk/url…oes
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Free delivery and the usual 2 year warranty.

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If anyone is tempted but doesn't want an ugly green thing on their motherboard, EK do a nice passive cooler which actually works for about £14-16 depending on black or chrome finish amazon.co.uk/EK-…3DJ.

I should have gone for the black with my build but I couldn't resist a bit of bling :-)32288553-eTymH.jpg
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Certainly interested in NVME storage but I think I'll hold out for a 960 or something along those lines. It's over twice the speed sequential write and read than this I believe. Coming from a normal SSD it's not a huge leap. Awesome deal for those moving from a HDD though.

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lucifon11 m ago

Certainly interested in NVME storage but I think I'll hold out for a 960 …Certainly interested in NVME storage but I think I'll hold out for a 960 or something along those lines. It's over twice the speed sequential write and read than this I believe. Coming from a normal SSD it's not a huge leap. Awesome deal for those moving from a HDD though.


I've got the XG-3 version of this which does 2700/1700 in CrystalDiskMark and I certainly notice the difference over an SSD, but this one is "only" 2-3 times faster than a Samsung 950 so the difference may be less marked I suppose.
Edited by: "Putterill" 21st Oct

Thanks OP - going to add this to my (old) but rejuvenating Mixed Reality RIG!
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The 128GB version is around £36

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If anyone is tempted but doesn't want an ugly green thing on their motherboard, EK do a nice passive cooler which actually works for about £14-16 depending on black or chrome finish amazon.co.uk/EK-…3DJ.

I should have gone for the black with my build but I couldn't resist a bit of bling :-)32288553-eTymH.jpg

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Mmaallek8 m ago

The 128GB version is around £36


I don't think that's an NVME so will be at the same speed as a normal SSD

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Putterill44 m ago

If anyone is tempted but doesn't want an ugly green thing on their …If anyone is tempted but doesn't want an ugly green thing on their motherboard, EK do a nice passive cooler which actually works for about £14-16 depending on black or chrome finish https://www.amazon.co.uk/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-M-2-Heatsink/dp/B073RHHYCM/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FET0Z4DWJJEZ7V6RG3DJ. I should have gone for the black with my build but I couldn't resist a bit of bling :-)[Image]


I'd advise people to check that the drive is actually working OK before they put those heatsinks on though, as you should remove the sticker before you put it on, so would void any warranty.
I've got the 1TB version of this drive and it's a great cheap alternative to Samsung etc, but damn does it run hot! It also has chips on both sides, so those heatsinks won't work on it (the smaller models should be fine though)

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dfunked21 m ago

I'd advise people to check that the drive is actually working OK before …I'd advise people to check that the drive is actually working OK before they put those heatsinks on though, as you should remove the sticker before you put it on, so would void any warranty.I've got the 1TB version of this drive and it's a great cheap alternative to Samsung etc, but damn does it run hot! It also has chips on both sides, so those heatsinks won't work on it (the smaller models should be fine though)


Good advice, I carefully peeled my sticker off and kept it safe so I can replace it if needed to get it past the CEX version of the Genius Bar for a warranty return. I did check the drive when I got it and it had less than 280 hours on it which is nothing really, plus all the benchmarks were actually about 200MBs faster than the published spec which impressed me.

lucifon2 h, 23 m ago

Certainly interested in NVME storage but I think I'll hold out for a 960 …Certainly interested in NVME storage but I think I'll hold out for a 960 or something along those lines. It's over twice the speed sequential write and read than this I believe. Coming from a normal SSD it's not a huge leap. Awesome deal for those moving from a HDD though.


I changed 256gb SanDisk x400 (msata) for 512gb Samsung 960 pro (nvme) and barely notice the difference
Edited by: "bnwubnfguisr" 21st Oct

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bnwubnfguisr11 m ago

I changed 256gb SanDisk x400 (msata) for 512gb Samsung 960 pro (nvme) and …I changed 256gb SanDisk x400 (msata) for 512gb Samsung 960 pro (nvme) and barely notice the difference


A lot of people won't, this is overkill for a normal user, a 960 doubly so :-)

People like me that are often messing about with huge files will notice it though especially doing stuff like editing 4k, these are designed for workstation use rather than desktop really.
Edited by: "Putterill" 21st Oct

Putterill1 h, 59 m ago

I don't think that's an NVME so will be at the same speed as a normal SSD

Oh my bad if it's not.

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Is it a good idea to get a used ssd?

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Al181 h, 3 m ago

Is it a good idea to get a used ssd?


Generally they are expected to last between 5-10 years, these have only been on the market for a year or so I believe so should have plenty of life left. My XG3 version from CEX only had 280 hours use.

Putterill5 h, 0 m ago

Generally they are expected to last between 5-10 years, these have only …Generally they are expected to last between 5-10 years, these have only been on the market for a year or so I believe so should have plenty of life left. My XG3 version from CEX only had 280 hours use.


That's a really misleading way of estimating life expectancy of an SSD. 280 hours is plenty of time to kill this SSD... 3 times over!

SSD endurance is measured by amount of data written to it in TBW or DWPD. It concerns me that Toshiba doesn't quote an official figure for this model, so I'm just going to assume 300TBW which is typical of a consumer SSD of this size. With the quoted write speed of 980MB/s, I can kill this thing in less than 90 hours!

Maths: 300[TBW] * 1024 * 1024 / 980[MB/s] / 60 / 60 = 89.2 hours

Even if this is an entry-level enterprise-grade SSD (which this model is NOT) you may get 10x the endurance, that's still only 900 hours (37 days)

I am generally uncomfortable with used SSDs for the reason that I've no idea how it's been used.

Do your maths, and know the risks.

bankbandit2 h, 41 m ago

That's a really misleading way of estimating life expectancy of an SSD. …That's a really misleading way of estimating life expectancy of an SSD. 280 hours is plenty of time to kill this SSD... 3 times over!SSD endurance is measured by amount of data written to it in TBW or DWPD. It concerns me that Toshiba doesn't quote an official figure for this model, so I'm just going to assume 300TBW which is typical of a consumer SSD of this size. With the quoted write speed of 980MB/s, I can kill this thing in less than 90 hours!Maths: 300[TBW] * 1024 * 1024 / 980[MB/s] / 60 / 60 = 89.2 hoursEven if this is an entry-level enterprise-grade SSD (which this model is NOT) you may get 10x the endurance, that's still only 900 hours (37 days)I am generally uncomfortable with used SSDs for the reason that I've no idea how it's been used.Do your maths, and know the risks.


Have a decent backup solution and then no need to worry about something that probably won't affect you in the real world anyway

bnwubnfguisr14 h, 51 m ago

I changed 256gb SanDisk x400 (msata) for 512gb Samsung 960 pro (nvme) and …I changed 256gb SanDisk x400 (msata) for 512gb Samsung 960 pro (nvme) and barely notice the difference


Same experience here coming from a 840 evo to a 960 evo NVME. There is a difference but its only really noticeable when you are majorly taxing your disk, still don't regret the purchase though :).

I'm still on a PCI-E gen 2 board so there will be a nice read jump when I go to my next motherboard, still getting 1900/1600 mind you.

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bankbandit3 h, 47 m ago

That's a really misleading way of estimating life expectancy of an SSD. …That's a really misleading way of estimating life expectancy of an SSD. 280 hours is plenty of time to kill this SSD... 3 times over!SSD endurance is measured by amount of data written to it in TBW or DWPD. It concerns me that Toshiba doesn't quote an official figure for this model, so I'm just going to assume 300TBW which is typical of a consumer SSD of this size. With the quoted write speed of 980MB/s, I can kill this thing in less than 90 hours!Maths: 300[TBW] * 1024 * 1024 / 980[MB/s] / 60 / 60 = 89.2 hoursEven if this is an entry-level enterprise-grade SSD (which this model is NOT) you may get 10x the endurance, that's still only 900 hours (37 days)I am generally uncomfortable with used SSDs for the reason that I've no idea how it's been used.Do your maths, and know the risks.



Technically correct, but bad advice in the real world. These are consumer drives used in products like the Microsoft Surface, they are not going to have been running continuous read write cycles. The 5-10 years is a quote from the manufacturer by the way.

Edit: Some info on whether to be concerned about SSD lifespans
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Edited by: "Putterill" 22nd Oct

Whilst this is a good deal, for the average consumer or even high-end gamer, there will be very little noticeable difference in real word scenarios when compared to a SATA-3 SSD.

Putterill16 h, 42 m ago

Good advice, I carefully peeled my sticker off and kept it safe so I can …Good advice, I carefully peeled my sticker off and kept it safe so I can replace it if needed to get it past the CEX version of the Genius Bar for a warranty return. I did check the drive when I got it and it had less than 280 hours on it which is nothing really, plus all the benchmarks were actually about 200MBs faster than the published spec which impressed me.


Yeah, mine had less than 100 hours and under 1TB writes, so it had clearly been pulled from a new laptop and just had a few basic tests ran on it... Very happy with it, and a great way to use up a bunch of vouchers that I had lying about.

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Immotek11 m ago

Whilst this is a good deal, for the average consumer or even high-end …Whilst this is a good deal, for the average consumer or even high-end gamer, there will be very little noticeable difference in real word scenarios when compared to a SATA-3 SSD.


Completely true, this is like buying a car than can do 150 when most people can't drive faster than 70(ish). I'd still advise most people to get an NVME drive over a standard SSD though in case they do need that speed in the future. Another plus is they are so easy to install compared to sata drives, my pc only has the M.2 in it and I was amazed how quick the build went without mucking about with drive cages & cable management.

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All gone by the look of it, hope some of you got a bargain :-)
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