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TP LINK KC200 Kasa Outdoor Cam - £74.98 + Free Delivery @ BT Shop
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TP LINK KC200 Kasa Outdoor Cam - £74.98 + Free Delivery @ BT Shop

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Type: Outdoor Camera
Compatible With: Alexa, Google Assistant
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The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card slot. So your pretty much forced to pay for the cloud storage.
Better buy Reolink
t7mmu17/01/2020 08:15

The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card …The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card slot. So your pretty much forced to pay for the cloud storage.


It's free? I have two of these. And an indoor one.
Same price on amazon
Night vision any good? Need to be able to see vehicles and registration numbers as they approach via an unlit road.
Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 08:59

It's free? I have two of these. And an indoor one.


How naughty of them - the bold part was added in August 2019.;

"When you purchase a Kasa Cam, you’ll have the option of enjoying our Kasa Care service. Your activity recordings are stored to your Kasa account and you can review and download your video recordings for up to 30 days, from the activity center in your Kasa app.

When your Kasa Cam is bound to the cloud account, you can enjoy the free Kasa Care service. With the free service, you will only have access to 2-days or less of video history for the Kasa cameras, depending on the camera’s model number. You will have to upgrade to one of our paid subscription plans to be able to access more than 2 days of video history.

Note: All the Kasa cameras will apply a 2-year limitation for the free plan. At the end of the free plan, you need to subscribe to one of the paid plans to continue to use the cloud storage.

We are currently in public Beta of our Kasa Care service. Please ensure your Kasa app is updated to the latest version to enjoy your free access to 30-days of video history during this Beta period."
Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 09:25

How naughty of them - the bold part was added in August 2019.;"When you …How naughty of them - the bold part was added in August 2019.;"When you purchase a Kasa Cam, you’ll have the option of enjoying our Kasa Care service. Your activity recordings are stored to your Kasa account and you can review and download your video recordings for up to 30 days, from the activity center in your Kasa app.When your Kasa Cam is bound to the cloud account, you can enjoy the free Kasa Care service. With the free service, you will only have access to 2-days or less of video history for the Kasa cameras, depending on the camera’s model number. You will have to upgrade to one of our paid subscription plans to be able to access more than 2 days of video history.Note: All the Kasa cameras will apply a 2-year limitation for the free plan. At the end of the free plan, you need to subscribe to one of the paid plans to continue to use the cloud storage.We are currently in public Beta of our Kasa Care service. Please ensure your Kasa app is updated to the latest version to enjoy your free access to 30-days of video history during this Beta period."


How much is Kasa Care?
t7mmu17/01/2020 08:15

The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card …The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card slot. So your pretty much forced to pay for the cloud storage.


Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 08:59

It's free? I have two of these. And an indoor one.


Even after the 2 years expire, there is still the free 2 day cloud service. You only have to pay if you want to keep it in the cloud for longer. You can of course download any images you want to keep to the phone/tablet the app is on as well.
salaaah9317/01/2020 09:28

How much is Kasa Care?


It's not available in the UK at the moment, so we don't know what they will charge here.

But in the USA, it's:

$4 PER MONTH, PER CAMERA - for 14 days cloud recording

or

$7 PER MONTH, PER CAMERA - for 30 days cloud storage.
ArcadeAssassin17/01/2020 09:37

Even after the 2 years expire, there is still the free 2 day cloud …Even after the 2 years expire, there is still the free 2 day cloud service. You only have to pay if you want to keep it in the cloud for longer. You can of course download any images you want to keep to the phone/tablet the app is on as well.


That's not how that amendment reads?

Note: All the Kasa cameras will apply a 2-year limitation for the free plan. At the end of the free plan, you need to subscribe to one of the paid plans to continue to use the cloud storage.
Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 09:40

That's not how that amendment reads?Note: All the Kasa cameras will apply …That's not how that amendment reads?Note: All the Kasa cameras will apply a 2-year limitation for the free plan. At the end of the free plan, you need to subscribe to one of the paid plans to continue to use the cloud storage.


To be fair, when i signed up this was part of the terms that i downloaded and saved:

Subscriptions

Each subscription starts with the registration of a Kasa Account and setting up of their Kasa Cam. TP-Link offer three (3) subscription plans, which the Customer can pick upon registration or at any time thereafter:

Free Plan;

Plus Plan;

Premium Plan.

Free Plan

Every Kasa Account registration comes with a free Kasa Care Services plan ("Free Plan").

The Free Plan includes a one (1) GB memory limit. Recordings within the memory limit are stored for two (2) days. The video history is capped by the number of days or memory limit, whichever is reached first. The Free Plan can be used for up to three (3) cameras. Customers who want to use more cameras must switch to a paid subscription.

In the updated terms from December 2019, the Free Subscription part has been removed so i stand corrected. Although i have no idea how they will charge for things people thought would be free on sign up?
Edited by: "ArcadeAssassin" 17th Jan
Unless you want Alexa or Google, I think Reolink Argus is better value. Argus Eco was and may still be £50 on Amazon.
While these are said to work well with Chromecasts and other pukka Google Hub displays (though limited to a 10 minute session on those displays), there appears to be a problem between Kasa cameras and Lenovo (Google) displays, with Google and Lenovo referring 'support' to each other.

Other thing to note is the power lead - it has a usb-A connector (fairly big) that needs a suitable hole in your outside wall, or a nearby outdoor socket with enough dry space for a usb power plug.
Outdoor cameras need power somehow, either a cable or a battery which either needs fairly frequent changing (ladder job?) or a decent solar panel. You takes your choice of camera ...
ArcadeAssassin17/01/2020 09:53

Although i have no idea how they will charge for things people thought …Although i have no idea how they will charge for things people thought would be free on sign up?


Yes, I agree. Mine will go right back to Amazon. At no point did it mention that it would become a paid service after 2 years. It was always like your saved terms stated. Thanks for saving them though, will help with the return.
Over priced junk
Thank goodness I didn't buy into this camera eco system. I've got the smart plugs but if tplink keeps changing the goal posts with their t&c with a short space of time, I'm out with their camera range. No consistency on their cloud services on short/medium terms.
Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 08:59

It's free? I have two of these. And an indoor one.



ArcadeAssassin17/01/2020 09:37

Even after the 2 years expire, there is still the free 2 day cloud …Even after the 2 years expire, there is still the free 2 day cloud service. You only have to pay if you want to keep it in the cloud for longer. You can of course download any images you want to keep to the phone/tablet the app is on as well.


'The Free Plan includes a one (1) GB memory limit. Recordings within the memory limit are stored for two (2) days.'

1GB is probably about 1hr of 1080p footage. It's literally the bare minimum they could give you. This camera would only be good if you only wanted to view live footage, anything else and its pointless.
t7mmu17/01/2020 13:02

'The Free Plan includes a one (1) GB memory limit. Recordings within the …'The Free Plan includes a one (1) GB memory limit. Recordings within the memory limit are stored for two (2) days.'1GB is probably about 1hr of 1080p footage. It's literally the bare minimum they could give you. This camera would only be good if you only wanted to view live footage, anything else and its pointless.


Not really pointless when I’ve it set to activate only on movement and then only a 10sec clip be recorded. So that free service will enable me to store 360 clips by your reckoning.

If i get 360 alerts in one day let alone one hour then I’m going to be logging on the app immediately to see what the hell is going on at my house!

However, this is all circumstantial at the moment as the whole KasaCare is in Beta and has been for over a year so no one is paying anything at the moment and my cams currently sit quite happily working without dropping out. In two years when the ‘free period’ is over then more likely than not, technology will have moved on and I would upgrade anyway.
ArcadeAssassin17/01/2020 13:17

Not really pointless when I’ve it set to activate only on movement and t …Not really pointless when I’ve it set to activate only on movement and then only a 10sec clip be recorded. So that free service will enable me to store 360 clips by your reckoning. If i get 360 alerts in one day let alone one hour then I’m going to be logging on the app immediately to see what the hell is going on at my house! However, this is all circumstantial at the moment as the whole KasaCare is in Beta and has been for over a year so no one is paying anything at the moment and my cams currently sit quite happily working without dropping out. In two years when the ‘free period’ is over then more likely than not, technology will have moved on and I would upgrade anyway.


If it suits your needs then thats all that matters. But considering how flooded the market is for camera like this, it's missing features that cheaper cameras offer. It would be interesting to see if they bring out a V2 with an SD card slot or they change their stance on the cloud storage.
t7mmu17/01/2020 08:15

The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card …The annoying thing about this camera is that it doesn't have a SD card slot. So your pretty much forced to pay for the cloud storage.


These are my current favourite. Sometimes the price dips to £32 but its £39 right now. SD card slot in it. Supplied app allows free viewing and cheap recording.
Great quality and its ONVIF so you can use it with home network recording. I use them with Blue Iris.
amazon.co.uk/Sec…8-6
Edited by: "ZapGod" 21st Jan
Brilliant camera. Far more reliable than any nest camera or ring camera. And no subscription
ZapGod17/01/2020 23:13

These are my current favourite. Sometimes the price dips to £32 but its …These are my current favourite. Sometimes the price dips to £32 but its £39 right now. SD card slot in it. Supplied app allows free viewing and cheap recording.Great quality and its ONVIF so you can use it with home network recording. I use them with Blue Iris.


Which are your favourites @ZapGod ? I can't see a link for some reason...

Thanks in advance
Would this be worse than a Ring Stick Up Cam judged purely on motion detection accuracy and image quality?
Edited by: "123sonny123" 21st Jan
Istanbul_Kop17/01/2020 09:38

It's not available in the UK at the moment, so we don't know what they …It's not available in the UK at the moment, so we don't know what they will charge here.But in the USA, it's: $4 PER MONTH, PER CAMERA - for 14 days cloud recordingor$7 PER MONTH, PER CAMERA - for 30 days cloud storage.


$4 per month? Thats less that a coffee at Starbucks. Seems reasonable to me
"i need TP for my bunghole"
Edited by: "bluntendo" 21st Jan
AgentDaleCooper21/01/2020 08:15

$4 per month? Thats less that a coffee at Starbucks. Seems reasonable to me


Starbucks has expensive Coffee, that's why I don't go there.

Plus, it's $4 per camera. That adds up.

And, you know it will be £4 at least here too.

Either way, removing the free service (after 2 years) after purchase, when it was always advertised as included...is reprehensible.
Logitech Circle 2 has free cloud storage - limited to 24 hours for free plan. Have 4 and never had issues with them. Good reviews kn Wirecutter etc
manzaboy21/01/2020 07:15

Which are your favourites @ZapGod ? I can't see a link for some …Which are your favourites @ZapGod ? I can't see a link for some reason...Thanks in advance



amazon.co.uk/Sec…8-6
mrjonesfromtexas21/01/2020 09:57

Logitech Circle 2 has free cloud storage - limited to 24 hours for free …Logitech Circle 2 has free cloud storage - limited to 24 hours for free plan. Have 4 and never had issues with them. Good reviews kn Wirecutter etc


These seem decent having read some brief reviews.

Just clear one thing up, on the free plan, they activate and record with motion? It wasn't clear as they talk about person detection on the paid plan (though I think this is some kind of advanced recognition rather than just a motion detector).
Istanbul_Kop21/01/2020 19:38

These seem decent having read some brief reviews.Just clear one thing up, …These seem decent having read some brief reviews.Just clear one thing up, on the free plan, they activate and record with motion? It wasn't clear as they talk about person detection on the paid plan (though I think this is some kind of advanced recognition rather than just a motion detector).


The free plan will send you notification if any movement is identified and will start a recording too. That recording is kept for 24 hours. The premium plan shows you if it’s people that triggered the motion alert or something else, you can set zones to pick up only if something happens in those and also it stores the recording for a much longer period. Overall i’m happy with these. I can only speak for the Wired ones. They’d be better if they had infrared motion detection as they can get triggered by leaves, changes in shadows etc. I buy these when amazon drops the price to 80-90gbp each or double that for the twin pack. Maybe a newer model is coming out soon.
mrjonesfromtexas21/01/2020 19:45

The free plan will send you notification if any movement is identified and …The free plan will send you notification if any movement is identified and will start a recording too. That recording is kept for 24 hours. The premium plan shows you if it’s people that triggered the motion alert or something else, you can set zones to pick up only if something happens in those and also it stores the recording for a much longer period. Overall i’m happy with these. I can only speak for the Wired ones. They’d be better if they had infrared motion detection as they can get triggered by leaves, changes in shadows etc. I buy these when amazon drops the price to 80-90gbp each or double that for the twin pack. Maybe a newer model is coming out soon.


Thank you.
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