TP-Link TD-W54KIT 54Mbps ADSL Modem Router with USB Dongle Kit. Only £6.89 + £3.99 p&p from amazon!
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TP-Link TD-W54KIT 54Mbps ADSL Modem Router with USB Dongle Kit. Only £6.89 + £3.99 p&p from amazon!

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Found 22nd Sep 2013
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OK so this router is only 54mbps but I know my Internet speed is not even close to that as I suspect most people's isn't.

Seems like a very good price considering it comes with a wireless dongle which is usually around this price on it's own!

What do you think guys, worth a buy? I was only really after a wireless USB adapter but this seems rude not to buy.

Modem/router is actually the TD-W8901G
- Musicrab

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54mbs (g) is wireless speed, not your download. Its old tech, and you should be going for a (n) router with speeds of 150/300 or even 600

I wouldn't recommend this as a main router, but as a back up or extender is pretty good.

Have heat!

Can this work as a repeater for a wired network printer?

leeparsons

54mbs (g) is wireless speed, not your download. Its old tech, and you … 54mbs (g) is wireless speed, not your download. Its old tech, and you should be going for a (n) router with speeds of 150/300 or even 600



I think that the OP made that point in the second sentence. Even with a gigabit or fibre router you still have the same bottleneck at your ADSL/DSL device.

Been a while since I brought a router that wasn't given by the ISP. Does this lack anything that a £100+ router has if you take away the fact that wireless isn't needed ..... I've assumed wireless strength is key for the more high end routers and maybe some additional security features ?

Thanks Looks a great price none the less.

Any 14.4k modems on the go?

pa55word123

I think that the OP made that point in the second sentence. Even with a … I think that the OP made that point in the second sentence. Even with a gigabit or fibre router you still have the same bottleneck at your ADSL/DSL device.



For some people, the network speed can be important regardless of their internet connection speed. Those who have NAS drives, backup across their network, stream from local media sources to other rooms, etc.

Very good price though. Hot.

Delivery should be included in price! Still voted good - good price for backup router.
Edited by: "Element" 22nd Sep 2013

54mbps is OK if your internet speed is slower and you only have one device in your house, or you never need to communicate between the devices. I recently upgraded my wireless to wireless n and my wired to gigabit and the difference is fantastic for streaming video and backing up to the NAS.

Gonna grab one to use as a legacy access point, my PSP and laptop are ancient!

nbuuifx

54mbps is OK if your internet speed is slower and you only have one … 54mbps is OK if your internet speed is slower and you only have one device in your house, or you never need to communicate between the devices. I recently upgraded my wireless to wireless n and my wired to gigabit and the difference is fantastic for streaming video and backing up to the NAS.



So if you transfer for example a 600 meg file from your networked device to a laptop via Wi-Fi to a laptop with 802.11n [150] / [300] hardware what transfer rate do you get after 1 minute of starting the transfer process ?

dontasciime

So if you transfer for example a 600 meg file from your networked device … So if you transfer for example a 600 meg file from your networked device to a laptop via Wi-Fi to a laptop with 802.11n [150] / [300] hardware what transfer rate do you get after 1 minute of starting the transfer process ?



I've got a nominal 300mbit/sec wireless network on 5GHz N, with gigabit from the wireless to the NAS. Real world, in the same room as the router I get 10MBytes/sec of throughput, so that 600meg file takes just on a minute to copy. 11g is find if you've got broadband up to say 20 or 30mbit/sec, and don't want to to any internal file transfers over wifi, and at the price of this device, it is a bargain.

pcadvisor.co.uk/opi…ds/ is a very hones article about the kind of wireless speed you can expect.

Sorry I should have said and was inquiring about the speed over 2.4ghz which would be a like for like comparison.

Edited by: "dontasciime" 22nd Sep 2013

dontasciime

Sorry I should have said and was inquiring about the speed over 2.4ghz … Sorry I should have said and was inquiring about the speed over 2.4ghz which would be a like for like comparison.



It's complicated :-)

If you're in the middle of nowhere, and can run 2.4GHz N with wide (40MHz rather than 20MHz) channels, then you'd get the same throughput I've got on 5GHz with rather better penetration through walls than you get on 5GHz.

Realistically, most people have enough neighbours with 2.4Ghz networks that wide channels are worse than useless (they double the likelihood of experiencing interference) so you'd be looking at a nominal link speed of 150mbit/sec, which for me work out at a real world throughput of 6MB/sec or so.

For that you'd need a router and a client that support dual stream connections, and I've found most tablets and phones are single stream only, except for some of the very latest units.

If you're after speed and consistency, a network cable is much better, if it is practical.

Original Poster

Element

Delivery should be included in price! Still voted good - good price for … Delivery should be included in price! Still voted good - good price for backup router.



I ordered it with a pre order, got free delivery for over £10 spent and then I cancelled the pre order. Free postage, job done!

Well, for this price, this is a great deal! Voted Hot.

xenny

It's complicated :-)If you're in the middle of nowhere, and can run … It's complicated :-)If you're in the middle of nowhere, and can run 2.4GHz N with wide (40MHz rather than 20MHz) channels, then you'd get the same throughput I've got on 5GHz with rather better penetration through walls than you get on 5GHz. Realistically, most people have enough neighbours with 2.4Ghz networks that wide channels are worse than useless (they double the likelihood of experiencing interference) so you'd be looking at a nominal link speed of 150mbit/sec, which for me work out at a real world throughput of 6MB/sec or so.For that you'd need a router and a client that support dual stream connections, and I've found most tablets and phones are single stream only, except for some of the very latest units.If you're after speed and consistency, a network cable is much better, if it is practical.




I'm wanting someone using 802.11g 2.4ghz to say what throughput in megabytes per second after a 1 minute period of starting the transfer from a wired network device (not a computer) which has the 600meg file stored on it for example an LG N1T3. Saving this file to laptop with 802.11g hardware installed

Then to repeat the test using 802.11n 2.4ghz with 150 or 300 if bonding and report the actual megabytes per second after 1 minute period (to a laptop that is also capable of 802.11n) and saving the file to this laptop
Edited by: "dontasciime" 22nd Sep 2013

Wowhats

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dontasciime

I'm wanting someone using 802.11g 2.4ghz to say what throughput in … I'm wanting someone using 802.11g 2.4ghz to say what throughput in megabytes per second after a 1 minute period of starting the transfer from a wired network device (not a computer) which has the 600meg file stored on it for example an LG N1T3. Saving this file to laptop with 802.11g hardware installedThen to repeat the test using 802.11n 2.4ghz with 150 or 300 if bonding and report the actual megabytes per second after 1 minute period (to a laptop that is also capable of 802.11n) and saving the file to this laptop



With a 11g 2.4GHz connection copying to a laptop from a DS211J, I get a link speed of 54mbit/sec, and the file copes at 1.8MByte/second

With a 11n 2.4GHz connection copying to the same laptop from a DS211J, I get a link speed of 144mbit/sec, and the file copes at 5.7MByte/second.

Over a gigabit wired connection, all other hardware being the same, I get 38MByte/second.

I don't understand why you're asking what the rate is after 1 minute? It stays essentially constant for however long the transfer takes.

So what does the dongle give you? I've never really understood them haha. So you could this as a range extender?

herrbz

So what does the dongle give you? I've never really understood them haha. … So what does the dongle give you? I've never really understood them haha. So you could this as a range extender?



The dongle lets you connect a PC that hasn't got built in wireless to a wireless network.

Ordered to extend connection downstairs

ordered because its a 7 quid wireless dongle with a free router! bargain!. Thanks op

xenny

With a 11g 2.4GHz connection copying to a laptop from a DS211J, I get a … With a 11g 2.4GHz connection copying to a laptop from a DS211J, I get a link speed of 54mbit/sec, and the file copes at 1.8MByte/secondWith a 11n 2.4GHz connection copying to the same laptop from a DS211J, I get a link speed of 144mbit/sec, and the file copes at 5.7MByte/second.Over a gigabit wired connection, all other hardware being the same, I get 38MByte/second.I don't understand why you're asking what the rate is after 1 minute? It stays essentially constant for however long the transfer takes.



1 minute to rule out cache of hdd etc and it will change if you sit and watch it will increase and drop the tx rate (not as much as you'd notice copying a folder with lots of smaller files in it) but it will change over a period of 2-3 minutes e.g my test before to a dell mini(802.11g) started at 1.6 meg a second and rose to 2.06MB/s then dropped a little back to 1.98 meg second going through a 7800n all of my wireless devices on over 20 wifi cards / dongles/ cards I've ever used on over 30 odd adsl/modem/routers have done this.

My dell n5010 laptop with a swapped out 802.11n card started at 5.87 meg then went up to and stayed at 6.43 meg a second for around 30 seconds then 6.37 / 6.29/ 6.34 back to 6.43 whilst reporting 130Mbps connection

Thanks for testing

Edited by: "dontasciime" 22nd Sep 2013

That kind of change of speed can be a neighbour using the microwave, someone else in the house walking past the wireless device, almost the phases of the moon. Wireless just isn't that consistent.

Can this be used as a bridge? I can't see anything online about it allowing this.

xenny

That kind of change of speed can be a neighbour using the microwave, … That kind of change of speed can be a neighbour using the microwave, someone else in the house walking past the wireless device, almost the phases of the moon. Wireless just isn't that consistent.



Yes wireless is never consistent and tx rate is never steady regardless of ruling out splatter (which obviously affects it) I/O access comes into it as well on receiving hardware however the % of tx rate +/- in the above test is fine for my use and tbh is quite normal to me as I've seen it happen since I first used 2.4ghz 802.

Thanks for testing yours again. I'll have to invest in a dual band EWAN capable modem to get near 802.3u over wireless

Edited by: "dontasciime" 22nd Sep 2013

Cheap though this is, have 5 N ADSL routers from various ISPs. If anyone wants one for the cost of P&P please PM me.

Hot !

also interested as a bridge to connect dreambox and bt viewbox to it - then bridge oruther to main adsl switch wirelessly = is this possible

Hot

I mean christ on a bike, for £7 you're getting a basic adsl modem router and USB dongle but I guess I should vote cold as it's not gold plated, 4G LTE compatible, 4K ultra HD, Dolby Surround 18.1 or available in Poundland

Hot, used a TD-W8901G for a few years and gave a rock steady ADSL connection.

Now lives on as a 'garden router' in a box in the garden, powered and networked by a 20m Cat5 patch cable using POE adapters.

Edited by: "smileypete" 22nd Sep 2013

xenny

It's complicated :-)If you're in the middle of nowhere, and can run … It's complicated :-)If you're in the middle of nowhere, and can run 2.4GHz N with wide (40MHz rather than 20MHz) channels, then you'd get the same throughput I've got on 5GHz with rather better penetration through walls than you get on 5GHz. Realistically, most people have enough neighbours with 2.4Ghz networks that wide channels are worse than useless (they double the likelihood of experiencing interference) so you'd be looking at a nominal link speed of 150mbit/sec, which for me work out at a real world throughput of 6MB/sec or so.For that you'd need a router and a client that support dual stream connections, and I've found most tablets and phones are single stream only, except for some of the very latest units.If you're after speed and consistency, a network cable is much better, if it is practical.



Nice explanation sir ! .....just wanted to add the payoff for shorter range on the 5GHz frequency is much quieter air, every man and dog is on 2.4GHz. On 5GHz the throughput stays relatively high within the cell range where it will drop quite quicky on 2.4GHz as distance increases. Also not all manufactures support dual channeling on the 2.4GHz range for the reasons you explained plus you need your clients to support 5GHz n. Yep its a minefield!!
Edited by: "mission1664" 22nd Sep 2013

Musicrab

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Not quite a £1 but just had a very quick look and found this for £1.20...no idea what or who it is but c'est la vie...lol...

amazon.co.uk/Str…-14

barneystuta

I wouldn't recommend this as a main router, but as a back up or extender … I wouldn't recommend this as a main router, but as a back up or extender is pretty good. Have heat!


I'm interested in this too!!!!

so is this better than the O2 Wireless box II ?

Tequila

so is this better than the O2 Wireless box II ?



Same as by the looks of it.

Can this be used as a wireless repeater ?

I have sky fibre and would like to extend the range upstairs !
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