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Tudor heritage ranger Men's watch M79910-0013 - £1,510 @ Goldsmiths
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Tudor heritage ranger Men's watch M79910-0013 - £1,510 @ Goldsmiths

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Posted 17th Jun
A key characteristic of the Tudor Heritage line is the unique creative process that began in 2010 with the presentation of the Tudor Heritage Chrono model, a free interpretation of the brand’s first chronograph dating from 1970. The models in this line bring together the past, present and future, with the aesthetic codes that contributed to the reputation of historic models instilled into contemporary timepieces.

This Tudor Heritage watch is presented in a striking 41mm stainless steel case, protected by sapphire crystal glass, and fastens securely with a retro-inspired brown leather strap with contrasting white stitching.

Powered by a self-winding mechanical movement, the sophisticated black dial is equipped with Arabic numerals, luminous hands and hour markers, and Tudor’s iconic branding.

Water resistant to 150 metres, this high-performance model also benefits from a 38-hour power reserve.

Seen as Goldsmiths are Rolex/ Tudor ADs there is no delivery on this product it’s pick up. My guess is everyone has a goldsmiths fairly local so it shouldn’t be an issue.

Also have the beautiful North flag for £500 off too

goldsmiths.co.uk/Tud…44/
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wimbojimbo17/06/2020 18:01

What a rotor with Tudor on it?What do they do then?So Tissot etc change …What a rotor with Tudor on it?What do they do then?So Tissot etc change the spring, regulate it down and get 80 hrs rather than the standard 40Reason why Tudor use this movement is simple.It already exists.It's good.It allows them to make huge profits tapping into the lower end of their brand fans market.Simple.Are you getting value for money? Or anything Luxury compared to a Swiss watch of £500?Don't think so.


I really didn't want this thread to turn into a technical watch thread as there are watch forums out there which have gone round the mill on this subject. But since you've asked then I will elaborate a little. Tudor remain quite tight lipped about their modifications but what I've learnt is that they brought in a bespoke balance cock with a Triovis fine adjustment mechanism instead of the ETA eccentric screw. This is a more compact mechanism with a finer adjustment on the regulator index and is favoured by the likes of Nomos, Girard-Perregaux and Jaeger LeCoultre. This means the way the watch is regulated is different to the standard ETA one.
It has replaced the Incabloc shock absorber in the ETA mechanism with a Kif one which has been used by Rolex before being replaced by their own in-house design. There are arguments that the Kif shock absorber is a much more resilient part compared to the Incabloc but Ive not seen anything definitive. This is only a couple of the changes made and there may be more but it is probable that due to the changes made means that the movements have to be adjusted in-house to take these into account these new parts. I would not class the Tudor as an in-house movement but neither is it an off the shelf ETA movement.
The next point being the term "luxury" which is a very subjective issue. You may argue about a £500 watch versus a £2000 but why not argue a £200 watch versus a £500? Why do people spend nearly a £1000 on a mobile phone when a £200 one will do the same job? Why buy a Bentley compared to a Ford, after all they both get you from A to B in the same way? This is where elements of rarity, exclusivity and marketing come into play (which companies like Apple and Rolex are a master at playing). Luxury does not necessarily mean better (which I can cite various expensive purchases which have failed me while much cheaper variants are still going). It is the worth the individual person places on these items which give them the 'special' and 'feel good' factor that the image carries.
Far from it for me to tell anyone on how to spend their money whether I think its a value-for-money purchase or not. As the adage says, 'You pays your money and you take your choice'.
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Is this a wind up?
Great deal
They are also now discontinued FWIW.

edit : also, regarding the North Flag, you can't get a pre owned one for that price.
Edited by: "danowat" 17th Jun
Nice looking simplistic watch. This could be a great everyday type watch.
Mike_HUKD17/06/2020 14:04

Nice looking simplistic watch. This could be a great everyday type watch.


Most definitely, reminds me of the explorer i, this would be an excellent choice for simple everyday wear.
Good price and that north flag - maybe its true they are discontinuing these models its been teh rumour with the new Tudor apparently being announced in the new few weeks.
My kind of Watch, Have some heat
Here we go again......
I love the design
But £1500 for a watch with an ETA 2824
Why can you get another Swiss made watch with impeccable build Quality with same movement for way way under £500
Rotary Les Originales tradition being a prime example!
Paying for David Beckham's promotion maybe?
But that's the debate I suppose!
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Kratos6917/06/2020 14:07

Most definitely, reminds me of the explorer i, this would be an excellent …Most definitely, reminds me of the explorer i, this would be an excellent choice for simple everyday wear.

I like your taste! That's my personal favourite watch as it happens
Looks cheap definitely not there best watch
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:11

Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA …Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA 2824Why can you get another Swiss made watch with impeccable build Quality with same movement for way way under £500Rotary Les Originales tradition being a prime example!Paying for David Beckham's promotion maybe?But that's the debate I suppose! [Image] [Image]


You're not wrong, but very little about watches is logical. I know which I'd prefer to have on my wrist, and at the end of the day isn't it all about what makes the person wearing it happy?
Mike_HUKD17/06/2020 14:14

I like your taste! That's my personal favourite watch as it happens


The explorer i is a classic! I believe that design will never go out of fashion, timeless and robust. I do like these tudors though, this and the north flag, north flag being ironically just north of what I’d want to pay for an everyday watch at this point in time
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:11

Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA …Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA 2824Why can you get another Swiss made watch with impeccable build Quality with same movement for way way under £500Rotary Les Originales tradition being a prime example!Paying for David Beckham's promotion maybe?But that's the debate I suppose! [Image] [Image]


Not the same movement, Rotary are Selita.
True... Very true
danowat17/06/2020 13:54

They are also now discontinued FWIW.edit : also, regarding the North Flag, …They are also now discontinued FWIW.edit : also, regarding the North Flag, you can't get a pre owned one for that price.


I've emailed WoS about the North Flag. Definitely interested but I'm not anywhere near any open shop from the group and Tudor don't allow delivery. 5% AMEX cashback ATM.
danowat17/06/2020 14:18

Not the same movement, Rotary are Selita.


They use both in fact!
So they use the movements Tudor use and the Movement Oris use do the math!
And many other "Luxury" brands
danowat17/06/2020 14:18

Not the same movement, Rotary are Selita.


My Rotary Super 25 has the ETA 2824
I think at this price point a 2824 is kind of expected in watches, very few in house movements for £1500 (barring Nomos but don’t get me started on them )
Breitling, Sinn, Tudor all use a 2824 in some of their “entry” level watches, plus many more brands I am sure. I’d also like to add that the ETA 2824 is a fantastic movement, reliable, trustworthy and simple to service by pretty much any watchmaker. I see your point @wimbojimbo and it is indeed a valid one but I think comparing rotary with Tudor is not a fair comparison.
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:21

They use both in fact! So they use the movements Tudor use and the …They use both in fact! So they use the movements Tudor use and the Movement Oris use do the math!And many other "Luxury" brands


You are trying to apply logic to a luxury item, why buy a luxury anything, when x brand does exactly the same job.

The watch you posted isn't comparable to the Tudor, in many ways, but that's not really the point, the deal posted is a good deal, regardless.

And FWIW, the fact that Beckham is a brand ambassador makes it less desirable!

Sling a few more quid at a Tudor, and you can have one with their very first in house (and very good) movement in it.
Edited by: "danowat" 17th Jun
I'd prefer a Khaki king over that,if you want to own quite a utilitarian watch.
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:11

Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA …Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA 2824Why can you get another Swiss made watch with impeccable build Quality with same movement for way way under £500Rotary Les Originales tradition being a prime example!Paying for David Beckham's promotion maybe?But that's the debate I suppose! [Image] [Image]


Gorgeous Rotary by the way. Didn’t realise they use 2824 actually. I own a couple pieces with the 2824. Great movement but I do see your point...
danowat17/06/2020 14:23

You are trying to apply logic to a luxury item, why buy a luxury anything, …You are trying to apply logic to a luxury item, why buy a luxury anything, when x brand does exactly the same job.The watch you posted isn't comparable to the Tudor, in many ways, but that's not really the point, the deal posted is a good deal, regardless.And FWIW, the fact that Beckham is a brand ambassador makes it less desirable!Sling a few more quid at a Tudor, and you can have one with their very first in house (and very good) movement in it.


No, not logic. Show me the Luxury?
What's the difference?
If both Swiss made
Both have great heritage
Same movements
Same Sapphire Crystal

I understand Luxury when materials etc and movements, engines, whatever the subject is, can be shown to be better but this isn't the case, it's just the brand name and marketing.
Nothing and I mean nothing on that Tudor will be of better quality that that Rotary I posted or my Rotary Super 25.
Just because the Brand doesn't have David Beckham in his pants advertising it, it's 1/4 or less than the price here.
41124594-zMuRO.jpgAnother £300 Swiss made watch.
Basically a Tissot with ETA 2824
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:28

No, not logic. Show me the Luxury?What's the difference?If both Swiss …No, not logic. Show me the Luxury?What's the difference?If both Swiss madeBoth have great heritageSame movementsSame Sapphire CrystalI understand Luxury when materials etc and movements, engines, whatever the subject is, can be shown to be better but this isn't the case, it's just the brand name and marketing.Nothing and I mean nothing on that Tudor will be of better quality that that Rotary I posted or my Rotary Super 25.Just because the Brand doesn't have David Beckham in his pants advertising it, it's 1/4 or less than the price here.


You heard it here folks, but the Rotary.
Edited by: "danowat" 17th Jun
All the worms are taken lol same old fish. Especially coldpop year 5 not back at school obviously 😄
timelessluxwatches.com/rev…ew/ very interesting piece of writing about what Tudor have actually done to the ETA 2824. It’s definitely not just been chucked in there straight out of the ETA factory.
Kratos6917/06/2020 14:17

The explorer i is a classic! I believe that design will never go out of …The explorer i is a classic! I believe that design will never go out of fashion, timeless and robust. I do like these tudors though, this and the north flag, north flag being ironically just north of what I’d want to pay for an everyday watch at this point in time


Agreed, it’s just a joy

My 2 cents, buy the one you want and if that means holding out a bit longer then it’s worth it. Otherwise every time you buy one that isn’t quite right, you just move yourself further away from getting the one you truly want. So if the North Flag is the one you really want, hold out for it!
Edited by: "Mike_HUKD" 17th Jun
Kratos6917/06/2020 14:39

https://timelessluxwatches.com/reviews/tudor-ranger-review/ very …https://timelessluxwatches.com/reviews/tudor-ranger-review/ very interesting piece of writing about what Tudor have actually done to the ETA 2824. It’s definitely not just been chucked in there straight out of the ETA factory.


Thanks, interesting read, always nice to see a company taking an off the shelf movement and not just slinging it in the case.

While I'd rather not revisit it, the whole rotary vs Tudor thing, swiss made doesn't mean 100% swiss made, I'd be interested to know where the Rotary case was made, where it was assembled and adjusted, and where it was finished.

But I guess those kinds of things aren't that important if you are buying a Rotary or a (shudder) Calvin Klien over a Tudor.
Mike_HUKD17/06/2020 14:41

Agreed, it’s just a joy [Image] My 2 cents, buy the one you want and i …Agreed, it’s just a joy [Image] My 2 cents, buy the one you want and if that means holding out a bit longer then it’s worth it. Otherwise every time you buy one that isn’t quite right, you just move yourself further away from getting the one you truly want. So if the North Flag is the one you really want, hold out for it!


I totally agree, whilst I like this ranger and most certainly would love it in my collection, it’s not one I’m after as such. The two watches I most desperately want at this point in time are the Tudor ranger on a pelagos rubber strap and a Nomos 735 ( or any from their club range for that matter!) the countless watch deals I’ve posted and seen on this site lately have led me to look at some beautiful pieces, some within range, some way out of range, tempted on a couple of occasions but I am most definitely sticking to my guns now. I find the watches I crave are the ones you’ll want and keep forever. I’m trying to build a nice collection where I won’t ever have to flip any more or change it up. The chances of that happening however are slim to none because I know what I’m like but that’s the goal
Edited by: "Kratos69" 17th Jun
wimbojimbo17/06/2020 14:11

Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA …Here we go again...... I love the designBut £1500 for a watch with an ETA 2824Why can you get another Swiss made watch with impeccable build Quality with same movement for way way under £500Rotary Les Originales tradition being a prime example!Paying for David Beckham's promotion maybe?But that's the debate I suppose! [Image] [Image]


Is this the same watch?

edmondsjewellers.com/rot…990

wandering off at a tangent...
Edited by: "markelock" 17th Jun
Damian6617/06/2020 14:44

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LOL what the hell is that does it come free with an original strain of corona from the Wuhan markets?
Edited by: "Kratos69" 17th Jun
Kratos6917/06/2020 14:55

LOL what the hell is that does it come free with an original strain …LOL what the hell is that does it come free with an original strain of corona from the Wuhan markets?


It’s a copy of one of Tudors Ray range ie; The real mccoy.
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Great brand and build quality. No issue with ETA etc, solid movement and easy to service. A watch isnt just about the movement, it’s also the build quality etc. personally I like my Sinn 556i more than this version.
Lovely watch, have to agree on the North Flag it's definitely a future classic and stands alone, I tried one on last time I was passing through Heathrow and was very impressed. IMO it will appreciate in value over time as well. I agree with the comments here regarding going for it and not compromising if that is what you are set on.
Damian6617/06/2020 15:06

It’s a copy of one of Tudors Ray range ie; The real mccoy. [Image]




It was a shoddy Pelagos lol
Damian6617/06/2020 14:44

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Ugh, fakes are the scourge of the watch hobby. Yuck!
swayndo17/06/2020 14:19

I've emailed WoS about the North Flag. Definitely interested but I'm not …I've emailed WoS about the North Flag. Definitely interested but I'm not anywhere near any open shop from the group and Tudor don't allow delivery. 5% AMEX cashback ATM.


Got a response. They still can't send out Tudor and have asked that I go to a shop once the shops are open. Why bother discounting something you can't sell?
swayndo17/06/2020 16:49

Got a response. They still can't send out Tudor and have asked that I go …Got a response. They still can't send out Tudor and have asked that I go to a shop once the shops are open. Why bother discounting something you can't sell?


They can’t send it out because Rolex and Tudor don’t allow ADs to do postal orders. You can call your local goldsmiths, reserve a time slot and go and pick up/ try on. It’s this price in store but you need to book a slot to visit the store.
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