UE55MU6100 4k HDR Samsung INSTORE ONLY @ Clearance Bargains Walsall - £599.99
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UE55MU6100 4k HDR Samsung INSTORE ONLY @ Clearance Bargains Walsall - £599.99

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Edited by:"JayD33"Found 8th Nov
Personally I'm looking for the ks7000 from last year but this is a good deal. For a decent low end 4k TV at 55".
Samsung are especially good for gamers as they all have low input lag (approx 20ms) compared to Sony xe70 xe80 and Hisense etc being above 30ms

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Thanks for the gaming tip re Samsungs versus other brands.

Presumably not 10 bit
Edited by: "loopylloyd" 8th Nov

Is this online? Link seem to not work? And is it Argos? Can I use tvsave 10% off code? £540 would be a sweet price!

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Lol... No chance. Best you can get at this price is 8bit+FRC. Though I think this is just 8bit, but don't quote me on that
Edited by: "JayD33" 8th Nov

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iz1234567893 m ago

Is this online? Link seem to not work? And is it Argos? Can I use tvsave …Is this online? Link seem to not work? And is it Argos? Can I use tvsave 10% off code? £540 would be a sweet price!

It's instore only, at an argos clearance store in Walsall, West mids

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tawse5714 m ago

Thanks for the gaming tip re Samsungs versus other brands.

Wouldn't want no one else to suffer the backlash of ignoring the wife night after night researching tvs . It was for the greater good

What does 10 bit give me over 8 bit - presumably a better picture?

Reading the TV deals on here I get the impression that we are moving from 8 bit as standard on TV's and then, by next year, 10 bit will be the standard?

Probably the coming weeks will see the 8 bits being sold off?

tawse5742 m ago

Thanks for the gaming tip re Samsungs versus other brands.


If you are looking for gaming you should also consider the lg sj range the 49sj800v is available for £649 at richer sounds with 6 year guarantee it is a 10 bit panel at 120 Htz with 15ms lag whereas this samsung is 8 bit panel at 60 Htz gaming review of the LG here topuptv.co.uk/rev…tv/

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BUCKUM24 m ago

If you are looking for gaming you should also consider the lg sj range the …If you are looking for gaming you should also consider the lg sj range the 49sj800v is available for £649 at richer sounds with 6 year guarantee it is a 10 bit panel at 120 Htz with 15ms lag whereas this samsung is 8 bit panel at 60 Htz gaming review of the LG here http://www.topuptv.co.uk/review-lg-49sj800v-49-inch-uhd-premium-hdr-smart-tv/#Gaming

and LG is the only brand that I completely dismissed bc of all this RGBW cr*p... But it looks like it's back to the drawing board with those specs... Thanks

JayD3323 m ago

and LG is the only brand that I completely dismissed bc of all this RGBW …and LG is the only brand that I completely dismissed bc of all this RGBW cr*p... But it looks like it's back to the drawing board with those specs... Thanks


If you look at the reviews of people who have actually bought this Lg tv they all say the picture quality is outstanding there 30 reviews on richer sounds alone and all rate the picture quality. So like you say RGBW cr*p

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@BUCKUM2 Tim Alessi, LG Electronics home entertainment marketing director, told HD Guru prior to the show that RGBW panels will be used this year in all but two series of 4K Ultra HD LED LCD TVs, encompassing 14 core-line models.

“That’s everything except for the SJ8500 and SJ9500 series,” Alessi said.

LG has yet to announce model pricing for the 2017 TV lines, so we can’t point out specific price savings the use of RGBW will bring this year, though its use last year resulted in more affordable entry to mid-range 4K UHD price points in LG’s assortment.

The 2017 4K Ultra HD LED LCD TV series using RGBW panels include: the UJ6300, UJ6500, UJ7700 and SJ8000. The SJ8000 is part of LG’s premium Super UHD LED LCD assortment offering its advanced new Nano Cell LED LCD technology.

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BUCKUM253 m ago

If you look at the reviews of people who have actually bought this Lg tv …If you look at the reviews of people who have actually bought this Lg tv they all say the picture quality is outstanding there 30 reviews on richer sounds alone and all rate the picture quality. So like you say RGBW cr*p

After reading up on it. Tbh. I might just go with lg... The spec are right. And aslong as it looks visually pleasing and responsive. I'm sure that counts as a win. It's official I'm now looking for a ks7000 or lg SJ8000 deal. Thanks buckum
Edited by: "JayD33" 8th Nov

JayD3327 m ago

@BUCKUM2 Tim Alessi, LG Electronics home entertainment marketing director, …@BUCKUM2 Tim Alessi, LG Electronics home entertainment marketing director, told HD Guru prior to the show that RGBW panels will be used this year in all but two series of 4K Ultra HD LED LCD TVs, encompassing 14 core-line models.“That’s everything except for the SJ8500 and SJ9500 series,” Alessi said.LG has yet to announce model pricing for the 2017 TV lines, so we can’t point out specific price savings the use of RGBW will bring this year, though its use last year resulted in more affordable entry to mid-range 4K UHD price points in LG’s assortment.The 2017 4K Ultra HD LED LCD TV series using RGBW panels include: the UJ6300, UJ6500, UJ7700 and SJ8000. The SJ8000 is part of LG’s premium Super UHD LED LCD assortment offering its advanced new Nano Cell LED LCD technology.


I am not saying its not a RGBW panel just saying to 95% of people there is no visible difference and as this is a 10 bit panel at 120 Htz with the nano cell technology and 15ms lag and produces excellent picture quality across the board (SD,HD,UHD) as the vast majority if not all the real owners of this lg tv say in reviews, Its the one i intend purchasing hopefully in the black friday deals. I personally think all this RGBW negativity is by people who don't own this tv or even actually seen it perform they just read stuff online and think they are experts. I prefer to check reviews of people owning this tv

I is a bit thick - RGBW? Is that considered inferior for some reason?

JayD331 h, 7 m ago

After reading up on it. Tbh. I might just go with lg... The spec are …After reading up on it. Tbh. I might just go with lg... The spec are right. And aslong as it looks visually pleasing and responsive. I'm sure that counts as a win. It's official I'm now looking for a ks7000 or lg SJ8000 deal. Thanks buckum

Do they still make ks7000s? I bought mine a few months back at £800 and I got the feeling they were clearing stock to make way for new models. I've had a look around recently and the big retailers don't seem to have them anymore. Nice mid range 10 bit panel though and as you say, a good choice for gamers.

The 55" Mu6120 is £559 at Co-op Electrical for members and using voucher CP40. electrical.coop.co.uk/tv-…bk/
Edited by: "nappkins" 8th Nov

The 60 inch version of the LG is for £1099 in Curry's - looks very impressive.

JayD332 h, 15 m ago

Wouldn't want no one else to suffer the backlash of ignoring the wife …Wouldn't want no one else to suffer the backlash of ignoring the wife night after night researching tvs . It was for the greater good


"The Greater Good"

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@Moonmonkeys no they don't make the ks7000 anymore, just hoping maybe there's still one of the with my name onit.
And to @tawse57 RGBW panels are heavily frowned upon on this site, I think my mind is made up on the sj800v as the spec is high for the price and I know for a fact that RGBW is gonna be the last thing on my mind while I'm playing ps4 on my new 4k

JayD3323 m ago

@Moonmonkeys no they don't make the ks7000 anymore, just hoping maybe …@Moonmonkeys no they don't make the ks7000 anymore, just hoping maybe there's still one of the with my name onit. And to @tawse57 RGBW panels are heavily frowned upon on this site, I think my mind is made up on the sj800v as the spec is high for the price and I know for a fact that RGBW is gonna be the last thing on my mind while I'm playing ps4 on my new 4k


The general consensus is that RGBW isnt 4k, its 3k , I may be corrected but that was my understanding.
Edited by: "hopper_papa_roac" 8th Nov

BUCKUM27 h, 31 m ago

If you look at the reviews of people who have actually bought this Lg tv …If you look at the reviews of people who have actually bought this Lg tv they all say the picture quality is outstanding there 30 reviews on richer sounds alone and all rate the picture quality. So like you say RGBW cr*p



BUCKUM27 h, 59 m ago

If you are looking for gaming you should also consider the lg sj range the …If you are looking for gaming you should also consider the lg sj range the 49sj800v is available for £649 at richer sounds with 6 year guarantee it is a 10 bit panel at 120 Htz with 15ms lag whereas this samsung is 8 bit panel at 60 Htz gaming review of the LG here http://www.topuptv.co.uk/review-lg-49sj800v-49-inch-uhd-premium-hdr-smart-tv/#Gaming



After seeing the Samsungs and Sonys in store, LG 800v is the one that caught my eye. Understand all the talk about being RGBW but looking at them side by side, LG wins.

I am waiting to come back in stock at Argos and get it for £585 with the code.

JayD336 h, 10 m ago

@Moonmonkeys no they don't make the ks7000 anymore, just hoping maybe …@Moonmonkeys no they don't make the ks7000 anymore, just hoping maybe there's still one of the with my name onit. And to @tawse57 RGBW panels are heavily frowned upon on this site, I think my mind is made up on the sj800v as the spec is high for the price and I know for a fact that RGBW is gonna be the last thing on my mind while I'm playing ps4 on my new 4k


Just a little bit of info this relates how to enable HDR for gaming on some makes of TV as the setting has to be manually enabled in settings for the HDMI port to be used check this link it relates to xbox one x but should imaging it being the same for all consoles link windowscentral.com/xbo…hdr

tawse5713 h, 20 m ago

What does 10 bit give me over 8 bit - presumably a better picture?


'10-bit' is something that can be applied to several aspects of the TV. So there's a difference between asking 'is it a 10-bit TV' and 'is it a 10-bit panel'.

To start at the beginning bit depth in content is used to specify the colour and brightness of a pixel. Each of the red, green and blue subpixels that make it up have 1024 brightness levels - that's two to the power 10 which takes up 10 bits.

But 1024 brightness levels don't mean anything on their own. Those numbers don't tell you anything about how bright level #769 is. That's defined by other parts of the standard and that's the big difference between SDR and HDR.

In SDR brightness levels are relative. The top one is always the brightest shade the display can produce, the bottom one is always the dimmest and the rest are spaced between in a predictable pattern.

If you want to go from 8-bit to 10-bit SDR that means a display that has finer control of it's output to display more intermediate brightness levels. This is purely down to the LCD panel so a 10-bit LCD panel is vital for 10-bit SDR. In terms of practical benefit it's mostly used in screens for photo and video editing professionals that need to avoid any visible steps between colours (banding) and is generally only found in high end TVs as a small refinement.


10-bit HDR is a completely different kettle of fish. HDR redefines what the values mean for brightness output by using fixed brightness levels. The 10-bit range in HDR is used for values from 0 to 10,000cd/m².

Level #769 doesn't mean 76% of the display's maximum brightness, it means 1000cd/m².

What matters for HDR isn't the fine control to reproduce lots of very similar brightness shades, it's absolute brightness range that the screen can display

If you're cranking up the backlight to display a 1000cd/m² pixel then the limitation is that the LCD panel's minimum brightness can't go low enough for the shadows in the scene.

Adding a higher bit depth panel with more shades between maximum and minimum isn't going to allow you to display a wider section of HDR's 10-bit range, the limitation is an LCD panel's contrast, not it's bit depth.


HDR TVs are still dealing with ~500 levels within the typical contrast range of an LCD and while some of those are used for colours TVs can't yet display it is likely that a completely faithful reproduction with no banding would need a 10-bit panel.

However, other things cause banding too and if you look at banding tests you'll see results scattered all over the place with no obvious correlation between a 'real' 10-bit panel and less banding suggesting other factors are currently more important:
rtings.com/tv/…ent

It's also partly down to the effectiveness of dithering. With 4K pixels being smaller than Full HD subpixels FRC in practical terms looks just as good as a higher bit depth. And just about everything that claims HDR supports FRC (including this model).


Given that local dimming systems (to increase contrast) and wider colour gamuts are currently far more influential and the best ones come with a 10-bit panel as standard - for whatever that's worth - that's the hardware I'd be focusing on if I was after an HDR TV.
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