Ulefone MIX 5.5 inch 'Bezel-less' 4GB RAM 64GB ROM Octa core 4G Smartphone PRE-ORDER (Band 20) £108.49 @ Banggood
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Ulefone MIX 5.5 inch 'Bezel-less' 4GB RAM 64GB ROM Octa core 4G Smartphone PRE-ORDER (Band 20) £108.49 @ Banggood

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Edited by:"No1_VIPER"Found 4th Oct
Specs: ulefone.com/pro…tml



This is a pre-order and is expected to ship around the 23rd of October.

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No1_VIPER14 m ago

I know what you mean... I'm tempted to give it a go at this price.


It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought cheap Chinese phones with great specs and my opinion after a while is that they’re ‘good’ but have critical flaws (e.g. slow/weak WiFi, unresponsive touchscreen, etc.) and after all that, they almost definitely have some kind of malware somewhere. This is why I’ve concluded that I just don’t mind paying more for a proper brand... I’m sure you can argue that Apple, Google, Samsung, Sony, all analyse your data but at least they ask whereas I’ve found malware hidden in the oddest places on these phones

plewis0011 m ago

It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought …It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought cheap Chinese phones with great specs and my opinion after a while is that they’re ‘good’ but have critical flaws (e.g. slow/weak WiFi, unresponsive touchscreen, etc.) and after all that, they almost definitely have some kind of malware somewhere. This is why I’ve concluded that I just don’t mind paying more for a proper brand... I’m sure you can argue that Apple, Google, Samsung, Sony, all analyse your data but at least they ask whereas I’ve found malware hidden in the oddest places on these phones


What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, and most seem a whole heap more stable and solid than your average "too good to be true" cheapie that pops up here.

As for this phone, the specs look really good for the money, but I've not bothered looking at any reviews as I'm not currently in the market for a new handset.

Don't forget TCB on this!

woldranger1 h, 12 m ago

What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, …What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, and most seem a whole heap more stable and solid than your average "too good to be true" cheapie that pops up here.As for this phone, the specs look really good for the money, but I've not bothered looking at any reviews as I'm not currently in the market for a new handset.Don't forget TCB on this!


I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d place them along with Oppo, OnePlus, etc. But there have been reported of cheap Xiaomi phones preloaded with malware from unscrupulous sellers so don’t automaassume it’s safe.
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yeahbutitsnotfree36 m ago

And you assume the likes of apple and Samsung are safe?


Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you genuinely believe that they (Apple and Samsung) are as bad as some of the cheap Chinese brands then you should probably ditch your smartphone and bury your online presence entirely, including HUKD. You can take reasonable precaution and, yes, I don’t think Samsung or Apple are doing half as much as those other brands like Oukitel, Ulefone, Doogee, etc. Otherwise it would be all over the internet already
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Is this a new thing, misstagging deals?

While I am not big fan of Chinese phones, I must admit it's a lot of phone.

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Sawb4 m ago

Is this a new thing, misstagging deals?


Fixed it now. That was auto tagged for some reason.

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maj25092 m ago

While I am not big fan of Chinese phones, I must admit it's a lot of phone.


I know what you mean... I'm tempted to give it a go at this price.

No1_VIPER14 m ago

I know what you mean... I'm tempted to give it a go at this price.


It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought cheap Chinese phones with great specs and my opinion after a while is that they’re ‘good’ but have critical flaws (e.g. slow/weak WiFi, unresponsive touchscreen, etc.) and after all that, they almost definitely have some kind of malware somewhere. This is why I’ve concluded that I just don’t mind paying more for a proper brand... I’m sure you can argue that Apple, Google, Samsung, Sony, all analyse your data but at least they ask whereas I’ve found malware hidden in the oddest places on these phones

plewis0011 m ago

It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought …It’s a good price but don’t get sucked in is my honest advice. I’ve bought cheap Chinese phones with great specs and my opinion after a while is that they’re ‘good’ but have critical flaws (e.g. slow/weak WiFi, unresponsive touchscreen, etc.) and after all that, they almost definitely have some kind of malware somewhere. This is why I’ve concluded that I just don’t mind paying more for a proper brand... I’m sure you can argue that Apple, Google, Samsung, Sony, all analyse your data but at least they ask whereas I’ve found malware hidden in the oddest places on these phones


What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, and most seem a whole heap more stable and solid than your average "too good to be true" cheapie that pops up here.

As for this phone, the specs look really good for the money, but I've not bothered looking at any reviews as I'm not currently in the market for a new handset.

Don't forget TCB on this!

woldranger1 h, 12 m ago

What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, …What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, and most seem a whole heap more stable and solid than your average "too good to be true" cheapie that pops up here.As for this phone, the specs look really good for the money, but I've not bothered looking at any reviews as I'm not currently in the market for a new handset.Don't forget TCB on this!


I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d place them along with Oppo, OnePlus, etc. But there have been reported of cheap Xiaomi phones preloaded with malware from unscrupulous sellers so don’t automaassume it’s safe.
Edited by: "plewis00" 4th Oct

720 screen

plewis003 m ago

I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d p …I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d place them along with Oppo, OnePlus, etc. But there have been reported of cheap Xiaomi phones preloaded with malware from unscrupulous sellers so don’t automaassume it’s safe.

And you assume the likes of apple and Samsung are safe?

yeahbutitsnotfree36 m ago

And you assume the likes of apple and Samsung are safe?


Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you genuinely believe that they (Apple and Samsung) are as bad as some of the cheap Chinese brands then you should probably ditch your smartphone and bury your online presence entirely, including HUKD. You can take reasonable precaution and, yes, I don’t think Samsung or Apple are doing half as much as those other brands like Oukitel, Ulefone, Doogee, etc. Otherwise it would be all over the internet already

plewis006 m ago

Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you …Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you genuinely believe that they (Apple and Samsung) are as bad as some of the cheap Chinese brands then you should probably ditch your smartphone and bury your online presence entirely, including HUKD. You can take reasonable precaution and, yes, I don’t think Samsung or Apple are doing half as much as those other brands like Oukitel, Ulefone, Doogee, etc. Otherwise it would be all over the internet already

Otherwise it would be all over the Internet? Have you heard yourself?

plewis0052 m ago

I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d p …I don’t consider Xiaomi in the same league as ‘cheap Chinese phones’. I’d place them along with Oppo, OnePlus, etc. But there have been reported of cheap Xiaomi phones preloaded with malware from unscrupulous sellers so don’t automaassume it’s safe.

Think that's more likely buying a phone from a seller on eBay. Open box chance to mess with the phone change rom. Xiaomi direct from China from a deal on here, they tend to be hot because of their existing customer base on hotukdeals and sellers people have good experiences off. Ebay I would only touch like a main store outlet argos for example.

yeahbutitsnotfree16 m ago

Otherwise it would be all over the Internet? Have you heard yourself?


If Apple and Samsung were blatantly loading phones with malware and viruses, someone much smarter than us would have blown it wide open by now. And if you honestly thought your data was at risk, you wouldn’t be debating it with me on a public forum. There is no big conspiracy theory.

So yes, I have ‘heard myself’ and FWIW I have found malware first-hand on a cheap Chinese phone (a Doogee X9 Pro most recently) and I have not ever found anything on my Sony Z5 or any of my iDevices.
Edited by: "plewis00" 4th Oct

alexus9 m ago

Think that's more likely buying a phone from a seller on eBay. Open box …Think that's more likely buying a phone from a seller on eBay. Open box chance to mess with the phone change rom. Xiaomi direct from China from a deal on here, they tend to be hot because of their existing customer base on hotukdeals and sellers people have good experiences off. Ebay I would only touch like a main store outlet argos for example.


There were stories of it happening with Banggood and GearBest too. But from an authorised reseller it should be fine. Google it if you’re not sure, lots of stuff on it. Xiaomi are good but they are quite a bit more than the other ‘Chinese brands’ too.

So avoid this phone then????

I have Ulefone Power and an xiaomi max, both are fantastic phones.

I met s couple who work in a company repairing phones and the I phones, especially the iPhone 5 s have their own box there are so many. The well know brands here all have their faults.

I have never had a problem with Chinese phones, but I would buy through Ali express whom offer insurance to repair a phone in the UK in the first year if there was a problem.

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I've previously bought phones from China via Banggood and AliExpress. I've never had any issues before with customs or issues with the phones themselves.

I've had phones from Ulefone, Blackview and Vernee. All of which were great. Also none of them had any malware or virus on them.

plewis001 h, 11 m ago

Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you …Put the tin hat away. At least you can opt out of data sharing. If you genuinely believe that they (Apple and Samsung) are as bad as some of the cheap Chinese brands then you should probably ditch your smartphone and bury your online presence entirely, including HUKD. You can take reasonable precaution and, yes, I don’t think Samsung or Apple are doing half as much as those other brands like Oukitel, Ulefone, Doogee, etc. Otherwise it would be all over the internet already


You were slating oukitel yesterday, you never responded to my request for a link on that thread.
Are you going to continue slating phones you have not owned or have any knowledge of just because you allegedly found something on a phone once?

No1_VIPER1 h, 5 m ago

I've previously bought phones from China via Banggood and AliExpress. I've …I've previously bought phones from China via Banggood and AliExpress. I've never had any issues before with customs or issues with the phones themselves. I've had phones from Ulefone, Blackview and Vernee. All of which were great. Also none of them had any malware or virus on them.


That's what she said.

(My comment makes no sense but neither does arguing on deal threads)

The specs on this phone though... Wow! May pick one up for the old man.

Wonder how this compares to the Doogee Mix.

shadey123 h, 1 m ago

You were slating oukitel yesterday, you never responded to my request for …You were slating oukitel yesterday, you never responded to my request for a link on that thread.Are you going to continue slating phones you have not owned or have any knowledge of just because you allegedly found something on a phone once?


It’s just like people demanding receipts in Tesco threads... I have owned them all, I could show you receipts or the actual phone or the virus scan but I don’t see why I should. Just Google it for yourself or see the reviews of these things on Amazon. I didn’t respond to you because your request wasn’t even a proper sentence and you could just have typed it into Google in seconds

It was an Oukitel Universe Tap.

And there’s your link - two for that exact phone but there’s more...:
amazon.co.uk/gp/…r=1
reddit.com/r/A…rd/

You should probably ask what possible agenda I could have for telling you this or maybe it’s the simple reason - which is that it’s the truth and I’d rather not see someone else fall foul of it. Caveat emptor
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shadey123 h, 8 m ago

You were slating oukitel yesterday, you never responded to my request for …You were slating oukitel yesterday, you never responded to my request for a link on that thread.Are you going to continue slating phones you have not owned or have any knowledge of just because you allegedly found something on a phone once?

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Edited by: "bryanhaines399" 5th Oct

I must admit I would stick with Xiaomi from a big reseller like MC from Singapore and I believe that there is no malware. I suppose these cheap Chinese brands sell the phones at a loss and recoup their money by adware with affiliate links in them as well as getting paid by the advertiser's. I just wish I had someone who could remove any malware and I would take a chance on doogee or leagoo at 50 but since I don't I'm happy to pay a 100 more for a 600 Snapdragon processor instead of a 400 with probably 4 GB ram instead of 3. You still get good value with the 'premium' Chinese brands

Isn't this problem solved by buying a slghtly older Chinese smartphone - one that has been out for several months - and going over to XDA Developers and downloading a custom made non-Chinese ROM onto it?

OK, a bit of hassle and you need to do some technical stuff... and need to really find the right ROM is available before you buy the phone.... but surely this is an option?

plewis003 h, 26 m ago

It’s just like people demanding receipts in Tesco threads... I have owned t …It’s just like people demanding receipts in Tesco threads... I have owned them all, I could show you receipts or the actual phone or the virus scan but I don’t see why I should. Just Google it for yourself or see the reviews of these things on Amazon. I didn’t respond to you because your request wasn’t even a proper sentence and you could just have typed it into Google in secondsIt was an Oukitel Universe Tap.And there’s your link - two for that exact phone but there’s more...:https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/reviews/B015POQRES/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=two_star&pageNumber=1https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/3ykfli/so_got_a_new_phone_from_a_brand_ive_never_heard/You should probably ask what possible agenda I could have for telling you this or maybe it’s the simple reason - which is that it’s the truth and I’d rather not see someone else fall foul of it. Caveat emptor


Looking at some of your previous comments, when did it all change,
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It seems strange. Less than 24 hours ago on a oukitel thread you mention a doogee you had problems with. Would it have not been more relevant to mention the 2 year old oukitel oukitel (just a thought)
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Contradictions everywhere.
Why have you been singing the praises of Chinese phones if you have had so many phones with problems and malware over the last few years, did you not want to warn people then?
It's easy to find a fault on a product using Google search.
Buyer beware or buyer beware of people making claims of owning numerous faulty phones and continuing to buy them.
Edited by: "shadey12" 5th Oct

shadey121 h, 27 m ago

Looking at some of your previous comments, when did it all change,[Image] …Looking at some of your previous comments, when did it all change,[Image] [Image] [Image] [Image] It seems strange. Less than 24 hours ago on a oukitel thread you mention a doogee you had problems with. Would it have not been more relevant to mention the 2 year old oukitel oukitel (just a thought)[Image] Contradictions everywhere.Why have you been singing the praises of Chinese phones if you have had so many phones with problems and malware over the last few years, did you not want to warn people then?It's easy to find a fault on a product using Google search.Buyer beware or buyer beware of people making claims of owning numerous faulty phones and continuing to buy them.


It changed a few weeks ago after real world use and actually finding malware embedded in the ROM of a couple of phones and yes, the early comments were initial opinions and yes, I still buy from Banggood - but this is drones and tools not phones and I still recommend them.

I went back to the Doogee F9 Pro thread and reposted the other day, I also updated my reviews but I guess in your rather sad witch-hunt you glossed over that. Given the detail and energy you went to, I am surprised or maybe I’m not?

Search some of the threads on HUKD and you will find others corroborating the malware concerns independently. But it’s fine I won’t bother, would it be easier to say ‘I made it all up’, is that what you want? It’s certainly easier than trying to argue with someone that has nothing better to do in their existence than go through my old posts. I would just refer you back to my point before, what could I possibly stand to gain either way?

Of course, I see what you have to gain - according to your Oukitel K10000 Pro thread you bought one in the presale and used a Leegoo Shark before...
Edited by: "plewis00" 5th Oct

tawse571 h, 34 m ago

Isn't this problem solved by buying a slghtly older Chinese smartphone - …Isn't this problem solved by buying a slghtly older Chinese smartphone - one that has been out for several months - and going over to XDA Developers and downloading a custom made non-Chinese ROM onto it?OK, a bit of hassle and you need to do some technical stuff... and need to really find the right ROM is available before you buy the phone.... but surely this is an option?


If they haven’t locked the bootloader. But yes, if you have the skills and ability to do this and the phone is capable then it would be a valid option, I believe Xiaomi handsets are open to this.

PLewis00 - busted

itr7865 m ago

PLewis00 - busted


How’d you figure that one, or is the explanation provided not sufficient. The fact that someone else who uses budget Chinese handsets spent ages trawling through my old posts? I found malware at a ROM level on more than one handset the other day, my opinion changed; I realised it wasn’t coincidence anymore and then I posted to warn people. Before that it was just what I’d heard.

Honestly, thought it was helpful, but HUKD and the internet has proved me wrong
Edited by: "plewis00" 5th Oct

At least another company has the same bat sh*t mental understanding of the term 'bezel less' as Apple *chortle*

another crappy mediatek processor - options for custom roms will be limited if any

good price for an interesting phone, however id look at the reviews as this wont be for everyone, yeah the spec is good but the front camera placement takes some getting used to, its not true bezel-less though, almost but not full bezel-less.....

There are quite a few of this type of model made by others, usually under the Mix name ( Maze, Doogee etc ) seems this is the new standard for new tech phones from China... for this cash it may well be worth a punt though, screen is one of the better ones, the cheaper end are 720p screens that look awful....cameras seem to need software upgrades to preform best though..

plewis009 h, 51 m ago

If Apple and Samsung were blatantly loading phones with malware and …If Apple and Samsung were blatantly loading phones with malware and viruses, someone much smarter than us would have blown it wide open by now. And if you honestly thought your data was at risk, you wouldn’t be debating it with me on a public forum. There is no big conspiracy theory.So yes, I have ‘heard myself’ and FWIW I have found malware first-hand on a cheap Chinese phone (a Doogee X9 Pro most recently) and I have not ever found anything on my Sony Z5 or any of my iDevices.


iTunes is a virus.

plewis002 h, 4 m ago

It changed a few weeks ago after real world use and actually finding …It changed a few weeks ago after real world use and actually finding malware embedded in the ROM of a couple of phones and yes, the early comments were initial opinions and yes, I still buy from Banggood - but this is drones and tools not phones and I still recommend them.I went back to the Doogee F9 Pro thread and reposted the other day, I also updated my reviews but I guess in your rather sad witch-hunt you glossed over that. Given the detail and energy you went to, I am surprised or maybe I’m not?Search some of the threads on HUKD and you will find others corroborating the malware concerns independently. But it’s fine I won’t bother, would it be easier to say ‘I made it all up’, is that what you want? It’s certainly easier than trying to argue with someone that has nothing better to do in their existence than go through my old posts. I would just refer you back to my point before, what could I possibly stand to gain either way?Of course, I see what you have to gain - according to your Oukitel K10000 Pro thread you bought one in the presale and used a Leegoo Shark before...


Still use both daily, thanks.
Not much of a search, I will take your comments the same as a certain member from London.

£103.83 at Gearbest

gearbest.com/cel…tml
Edited by: "enceladus" 5th Oct

So is this were apple get their phone from and stick £1000 on it


Joking aside I would not be suprised if they were made in the same factory

shadey129 m ago

Still use both daily, thanks.Not much of a search, I will take your …Still use both daily, thanks.Not much of a search, I will take your comments the same as a certain member from London.


That’s good to know.

It wouldn’t have mattered what I said as you had your own agenda. If you had asked me to prove it, I might just have done what you asked.

You will still buy these budget phones and I will avoid them, admittedly having changed my opinion of them (which I never disputed) recently having experienced the bad side of this first hand. But as it’s a public forum the least you could do is be a decent human being and accept that your opinion may differ to mine. I think meticulously screenshotting my comments, uploading them and deconstructing it is pretty sad. The date I posted all this doesn’t contradict anything, I did go back and correct my Amazon review and I did go back and warn others what I’d found. I won’t bother in the future, it’s just a reminder why there are no winners on the internet.

Banggood used them one time Now i have no way to stop the endles stream of email junk from that Unsubscibe does not work just get even more mail

plewis008 m ago

That’s good to know.It wouldn’t have mattered what I said as you had your o …That’s good to know.It wouldn’t have mattered what I said as you had your own agenda. If you had asked me to prove it, I might just have done what you asked.You will still buy these budget phones and I will avoid them, admittedly having changed my opinion of them (which I never disputed) recently having experienced the bad side of this first hand. But as it’s a public forum the least you could do is be a decent human being and accept that your opinion may differ to mine. I think meticulously screenshotting my comments, uploading them and deconstructing it is pretty sad. The date I posted all this doesn’t contradict anything, I did go back and correct my Amazon review and I did go back and warn others what I’d found. I won’t bother in the future, it’s just a reminder why there are no winners on the internet.


You should try the hukd app, very fast. Certainly not time consuming or meticulous.

woldranger11 h, 21 m ago

What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, …What about Xiaomi? They have a shed load of great phones out at the mo, and most seem a whole heap more stable and solid than your average "too good to be true" cheapie that pops up here.As for this phone, the specs look really good for the money, but I've not bothered looking at any reviews as I'm not currently in the market for a new handset.Don't forget TCB on this!


The radios on my xiaomi died after 8 months. Common problem, at least hundreds of other users affected from the looks of the xiaomi forums with posts going back to 2015 on this topic.

yeahbutitsnotfree12 h, 3 m ago

720 screen


I felt like that too. Amazing looking phone let down by a 720p screen. Still for £108 plus 6% TCB you can't really complain. I'm thinking about getting one purely for taking my ebay pictures with lol. My iPhone is getting too full of eBay pictures :P
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