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I've lost faith in Seagate.
Gort195121 m ago

I've lost faith in Seagate.


Are they aware? How did they take it?
Their sales went down and they were really upset.

A story with a good ending.
Last March I lost all my Star Trek episodes because of a Seagate drive.
Nearly a year later, three days ago I was looking through my backup drives and found all my Star Trek Episodes on a Samsung drive. (The label fell off)

Always have more than one copy and label your drives.
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Storage is starting to come down in price again. Good price. Have heat
I've lost faith in Seagate.
Gort195114 m ago

I've lost faith in Seagate.



OK.
Gort195121 m ago

I've lost faith in Seagate.


Are they aware? How did they take it?
Their sales went down and they were really upset.

A story with a good ending.
Last March I lost all my Star Trek episodes because of a Seagate drive.
Nearly a year later, three days ago I was looking through my backup drives and found all my Star Trek Episodes on a Samsung drive. (The label fell off)

Always have more than one copy and label your drives.
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Gort195120 m ago

Their sales went down and they were really upset.A story with a good …Their sales went down and they were really upset.A story with a good ending.Last March I lost all my Star Trek episodes because of a Seagate drive.Nearly a year later, three days ago I was looking through my backup drives and found all my Star Trek Episodes on a Samsung drive. (The label fell off)Always have more than one copy and label your drives.


Got it. You like Star Trek but not Seagate.
This will be good for all those looking to backup UHD Discs now with the recent ongoings in that area of software
alltaken12317th Jan

Got it. You like Star Trek but not Seagate.


What about Stargate, would that be ok?
If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - because 8TB of data (or Star Trek) is a hell of a lot of data to lose when the drive fails - and it surely will fail at some point in the future.

Storage Spaces will let you "stripe" data across multiple drives (and so avoid the loss from a drive failure), and is a technology that is now built in to Windows 10.

This is a good explanatory article - that might help some: po.st/YuOdMu (note that it was written before Storage Spaces were made available in Windows 10 - but the product and concepts are the same).
creamola42 m ago

If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - …If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - because 8TB of data (or Star Trek) is a hell of a lot of data to lose when the drive fails - and it surely will fail at some point in the future. Storage Spaces will let you "stripe" data across multiple drives (and so avoid the loss from a drive failure), and is a technology that is now built in to Windows 10. This is a good explanatory article - that might help some: http://po.st/YuOdMu (note that it was written before Storage Spaces were made available in Windows 10 - but the product and concepts are the same).


You would need three disks to have a striped array with redundancy. Striping data is for performance not for backup. You can however have a three or five drive striped setup which will increase speed and allow for one drive to fail (or two in a five drive setup). Unless this new Microsoft thing is using "striped" to mean something totally different, in which case thanks a lot Microsoft .
stripe arrays can also fail. And when they fail you just have two disks with partial information which is as good as two failed drives at the same time - that is all your data!

I prefer a direct mirrored backup as the only guarantee if one fails you can go to another.

Also I have had 3 fail at the same time - this was due to a grounding issue - a power surge blew out one drive, then my next drive, then my next drive before I realised what the issue was. Now I only use surge protectors for computer equipment.

Also I no longer use home user spinning drives (seagate/western digital) as they are the made to be cheap and are the least reliable - I have been using HGST drives for space (4tb) and flash drives to boot up. WIth this setup I have not had a problem.

See Backblaze for hard drive reliability extremetech.com/ext…ves. Note 3 tb drives are generally the least reliable
Edited by: "fiqqer" 17th Jan
creamola1 h, 35 m ago

If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - …If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - because 8TB of data (or Star Trek) is a hell of a lot of data to lose when the drive fails - and it surely will fail at some point in the future. Storage Spaces will let you "stripe" data across multiple drives (and so avoid the loss from a drive failure), and is a technology that is now built in to Windows 10. This is a good explanatory article - that might help some: http://po.st/YuOdMu (note that it was written before Storage Spaces were made available in Windows 10 - but the product and concepts are the same).


If you're using a NAS you should be mirroring anyway.
Respectfully, I disagree with several posts above. As pointed out, striped is for performance and actually increases the risk of data loss.

Mirrored provides redundancy, but I don't consider is to be a backup solution... you accidentally delete a file, or get a virus that wipes files, the mirrored drive will be of little value.

At worst, I would save snapshot drive images to a second internal drive, or, even better, save images to an external drive (that can be disconnected), or, best solution is to back up to a remote drive or service.
xmal4 h, 37 m ago

Storage is starting to come down in price again. Good price. Have heat


I have seen 5 TB for 100 pounds, so you can do cheaper than that. But 8 TB in one hard drive is certainly an achievement.

But I guess this one uses shingled recording?
Sod backing up media, if I lose them, they are replaceable. Only keep back ups of family pictures.
erjin9993 h, 7 m ago

What about Stargate, would that be ok?



Yes, StarGate is good.
Gutted that they cancelled the space series. SG:Universe.

Stargate Origins starts in February for 10 episodes but each one is only 10 minutes in length.
Seems a bit short, they may as well just show it as one movie.
Edited by: "Gort1951" 17th Jan
Back up a drive then put it in cold storage. i.e. The North Pole.
Walter.Sobchak26 m ago

Sod backing up media, if I lose them, they are replaceable. Only keep …Sod backing up media, if I lose them, they are replaceable. Only keep back ups of family pictures.


My thoughts exactly
creamola3 h, 24 m ago

If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - …If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - because 8TB of data (or Star Trek) is a hell of a lot of data to lose when the drive fails - and it surely will fail at some point in the future. Storage Spaces will let you "stripe" data across multiple drives (and so avoid the loss from a drive failure), and is a technology that is now built in to Windows 10. This is a good explanatory article - that might help some: http://po.st/YuOdMu (note that it was written before Storage Spaces were made available in Windows 10 - but the product and concepts are the same).


Hi, would it be OK if I buy different company NAS drives (and diffferent TB), would they work together or there is some hidden effect I should aware. I am planning to buy an enclosure NAS and NAS drives while the price is good.
MrPuddington1 h, 7 m ago

I have seen 5 TB for 100 pounds, so you can do cheaper than that. But 8 TB …I have seen 5 TB for 100 pounds, so you can do cheaper than that. But 8 TB in one hard drive is certainly an achievement.But I guess this one uses shingled recording?


Don't think the ironwolf ones are shingled. The seagate archive drives are
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Gort195152 m ago

Yes, StarGate is good.Gutted that they cancelled the space series. …Yes, StarGate is good.Gutted that they cancelled the space series. SG:Universe.Stargate Origins starts in February for 10 episodes but each one is only 10 minutes in length.Seems a bit short, they may as well just show it as one movie.


I've read that the audience numbers for the mini series might influence a reboot. Fingers crossed. On a separate note - It makes me sad to see my favourite actors, Richard Dean Anderson and Amanda Tapping looking so old! Throw back:

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creamola3 h, 43 m ago

If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - …If you are going to buy an 8TB drive, I would suggest buying two of them - because 8TB of data (or Star Trek) is a hell of a lot of data to lose when the drive fails - and it surely will fail at some point in the future. Storage Spaces will let you "stripe" data across multiple drives (and so avoid the loss from a drive failure), and is a technology that is now built in to Windows 10. This is a good explanatory article - that might help some: http://po.st/YuOdMu (note that it was written before Storage Spaces were made available in Windows 10 - but the product and concepts are the same).


Kinda goes without saying.If you're buying drives for Nas you should have 2 for a mirror or 4 for striping.

As far as size. The bigger the hdd capacity the higher the fail rate. And with brands its like anything someones love story is someone elses horror.

But WD is now my pref. Someone will say they still have a seagate hdd running from 2001 and that just proves they were that good way back when.

If you look up the capacity write tests before said drive failed and you are happy it will last you long enough before you have to shell out on a replacement then surely its a good deal for you.
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alltaken12317th Jan

I've read that the audience numbers for the mini series might influence a …I've read that the audience numbers for the mini series might influence a reboot. Fingers crossed. On a separate note - It makes me sad to see my favourite actors, Richard Dean Anderson and Amanda Tapping looking so old! Throw back:[Image]


I like her as well and she's a fan of scifi. Have you seen Sanctuary?
The 5th season would have been really good if it had not been cancelled.
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Gort195138 m ago

I like her as well and she's a fan of scifi. Have you seen Sanctuary?The …I like her as well and she's a fan of scifi. Have you seen Sanctuary?The 5th season would have been really good if it had not been cancelled.


I’ve not seen it yet. She’s also a director/actress in Netflix Travellers, that’s worth a watch
I also watch Travellers.

Sanctuary is really good, I used to watch it on the scifi channel.
Look for a preview on youtube, you'll soon be addicted.

I hate it when a show finishes on a cliff-hanger.
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8TB is enough storage for or my optional documents. Grabbed. thanks OP!
dealchaser88813 h, 19 m ago

Hi, would it be OK if I buy different company NAS drives (and diffferent …Hi, would it be OK if I buy different company NAS drives (and diffferent TB), would they work together or there is some hidden effect I should aware. I am planning to buy an enclosure NAS and NAS drives while the price is good.


Different sizes is fine if you are using a JBOD setup but any RAID arrays really need the same capacity and speed drives (doesn't matter about the brand) to work effectively.
Most NAS arrays let you configure JBOD or separate volumes from scratch.
The reality is, hard drives are mechanical. Mechanical things fail (regardless of brand). It's a matter of 'when' not 'if'. If you have data or sensitive data which you CANNOT lose, then it should be backed up. However, for general storage this drive is fine.
fiqqer17 h, 8 m ago

stripe arrays can also fail. And when they fail you just have two disks …stripe arrays can also fail. And when they fail you just have two disks with partial information which is as good as two failed drives at the same time ...


Also, try to get drives from different batch numbers if possible, that way if the batch has a manufacturing fault, you are less vulnerable to multiple drives suffering the same fault at the same time.
We would all like a bit of tapping, crusty or not !!!
for backup of media,
consider using snapraid
this exact drive failed on me within 2 weeks. probably too much to draw conclusions from a single example, but there you go.
Got two of these from CCL a while back. One was DOA, but got it replaced. No problems with the replacement so far. They replaced two 4TB HGST drives. Funnily enough, when I bought those, one was also DOA. But no issues with the replacement 3 years down the line. Replaced due to needing more storage.

Anyway, good price for these. I paid 220 for them 2 months ago.
When raid mirroring, all the drives are in use.
That is why I put a backup out of harms way.
MrPuddington17th Jan

I have seen 5 TB for 100 pounds, so you can do cheaper than that. But 8 TB …I have seen 5 TB for 100 pounds, so you can do cheaper than that. But 8 TB in one hard drive is certainly an achievement.But I guess this one uses shingled recording?


This one is not shingled
Looking to build a freenas build with mirroring. Need the servers to be cheaper
Gort195117th Jan

Their sales went down and they were really upset.A story with a good …Their sales went down and they were really upset.A story with a good ending.Last March I lost all my Star Trek episodes because of a Seagate drive.Nearly a year later, three days ago I was looking through my backup drives and found all my Star Trek Episodes on a Samsung drive. (The label fell off)Always have more than one copy and label your drives.


Well no - you didn't lose all your episodes due to a Seagate drive - you lost them due to a failure to plan...
Have some heat op - well found, thanks for sharing!
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