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Verbatim USB 3.0 (backwards compatible with 2.0) 2TB hard drive Even Further Reduced at Amazon £88.52
Verbatim USB 3.0 (backwards compatible with 2.0) 2TB hard drive Even Further Reduced at Amazon £88.52

Verbatim USB 3.0 (backwards compatible with 2.0) 2TB hard drive Even Further Reduced at Amazon £88.52

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Backwards compatible with USB 2.0

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Pls see a recent thread with some useful info in there....

hotukdeals.com/tag/dea…85/

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been following the price of this myself, and also looking out for reviews, one bad review on amazon, also another one said it's a seagate drive inside, personally prefer samsung drives, anybody who bought this recently can confirm which drive is inside the casing? and how is the product so far?

Same price on ebuyer. Also being put off by the Seagate drive.

Whats wrong with Seagate drives, I always found them to be great, in teams of speed and reliability,

Maxtor (seagate owned) on the other hand is a different story

I bought one a couple of months ago (much dearer) no problems with it, no idea what make of drive inside, have not looked, it comes with a program on the disk called Green Button, which turns off the spinning after 10 mins non use, or it can be set to different times.
I just thought as I wanted a new external hard drive, it made sense to future proof it a bit, I had to buy a USB 3 card for the computer.

Guan

Same price on ebuyer. Also being put off by the Seagate drive.



No matter what the make of drive if you do a search on the web you will not find a single make that is or has been 100% fault free, the fact is that most makes of drive are perfectly reliable but if you are selling 100s of thousands of them perhaps even millions there are bound to be a few that are not 100% and these are the ones we hear about.

FWIW I have quite a few makes of drives in use inc all the leading makes and have had no trouble with any of them.

IMHO this drive is a hot deal especially as it's USB3, USB3 is not used by many people ATM but soon will be!

According to the review, backwards compatible to USB 1.0 - a major + for me.
If only it did not need a separate PSU.

Had one of these now for months. Really good drive and pretty quiet to considering its size.

Really if your after an external 2TB drive get this irrespective of the USB3, the USB3 is just icing on the cake.

Voted hot. BUT!

If like me you'd prefer to choose your on hdd. You can get a 2TB Samsung F4 plus a Dynamode 3.5" SATA USB3.0 Enclosure for £90.49 delivered or £86.87 with quidco from BT Businessdirect.
The USB enclosure is cheaper at Scan but they won't get stock in until the 1st Feb and their delivery charges are higher.

BT Businessdirect use Dabs but have lower delivery charges and give you 4% quidco instead of Dabs and BT Shop's 3%.

businessdirect.bt.com/pro…1ZY
hotukdeals.com/dea…76/

Been looking at this for a while now, thanks! Voted hot!

been using Seagate drives for years, never had a single problem. Top quality. Of course you will always hear about the odd issue, but the internet tends to bring out more moaners than plaudits.

seagate had a nightmare with their 2tb hdds recently with the 'click of death'. just google 'click of death seagate'

I use a lot of hdds and had 9/10 for a good while becoming faulty within 5 minutes of use, as such i dont use seagate anymore, i only use samsung for my own, never had a problem. like you say though everyone has different experiences with hdds, no one manufacturer is 100% reliable. BUT seagate HAVE had a bad problem on their hands...

Also see here:

forums.seagate.com/t5/…618
Edited by: "pc5020" 19th Jan 2011

Guan

BT Businessdirect use Dabs but have lower delivery charges and give you … BT Businessdirect use Dabs but have lower delivery charges and give you 4% quidco instead of Dabs and BT Shop's 3%.



Dabs now only offer 2% cashback on quidco. Been watching a pricey Synology nas on their site for some days and expecting vouchers coming soon

The Verbatim 1.5 tb (without usb3) apparently contains a Samsung hd, and although it's stated as a 1.5 tb it's actually around 1.8 which is unusual as they're usually slightly smaller than stated. It has the same casing as this hd and can be had on Scan for £67.00 and includes free delivery!

JOHNNY WILKINSON

The Verbatim 1.5 tb (without usb3) apparently contains a Samsung hd, and … The Verbatim 1.5 tb (without usb3) apparently contains a Samsung hd, and although it's stated as a 1.5 tb it's actually around 1.8 which is unusual as they're usually slightly smaller than stated. It has the same casing as this hd and can be had on Scan for £67.00 and includes free delivery!

So the 1.5 is really a 2 GB???

so can anyone who bought the latest batch of this confirm whether it really comes with a seagate inside?

hotukdeals.com/dea…439
there is 1 member in that thread said he received it and it's a samsung inside, but amazon reviews said seagate?

Seems that way.....?

Rom

So the 1.5 is really a 2 GB???

My computer was just doing a system test of all equipment attached and it states that the HD is a Samsung HD 202UI if that means anything ;-)

anthony712

My computer was just doing a system test of all equipment attached and it … My computer was just doing a system test of all equipment attached and it states that the HD is a Samsung HD 202UI if that means anything ;-)



yes thanks prefer samsung over seagate (from personal experience so far).

JOHNNY WILKINSON

The Verbatim 1.5 tb (without usb3) apparently contains a Samsung hd, and … The Verbatim 1.5 tb (without usb3) apparently contains a Samsung hd, and although it's stated as a 1.5 tb it's actually around 1.8 which is unusual as they're usually slightly smaller than stated. It has the same casing as this hd and can be had on Scan for £67.00 and includes free delivery!



I have a 1.5 and unfortunately this isn't the case for mine.

A review of this drive:
itproportal.com/201…-3/

That USB 3.0 is not that fast at all (barely exceding the nominal USB 2.0 speed), so perhaps it is better to purchase more stylish and cheaper (at present £79.22 inc. vat) USB 2.0 Toshiba drive:
hotukdeals.com/dea…413

It seems though that Toshiba has an older generation F3 2TB HD according to a comment on ebuyer.

So what do you think?

If it has inside Samsung F4 2TB HD, which requires to have firmware fix installed:
samsung.com/glo…386
will it be possible to install the fix, without removing the disk from the enclosure?

The price has just increased to £100.38.
Edited by: "dragonf" 30th Jan 2011

Verbatim USB 3.0 Desktop Hard Drive 2TB has Samsung HD204UI (reported by operating system).

1. That hard drive needs a firmware update, otherwise data might be lost according to Samsung:
samsung.com/glo…386

However, it is not possible to apply Samsung firmware fix, because Samsung software (patch tool) does not recognize the drive, when it is in Verbatim USB enclosure.

I tried it even with USBASPI V2.20 MS-DOS Driver:
hddguru.com/sof…er/
to no avail.

It is not possible to remove the hard drive from the enclosure in order to apply the fix, without loosing warranty, as there is "Warranty void if broken" sticker.

Is there any software, which would allow to update the firmware of the Samsung HD204UI hard drive without removing it from the enclosure?

Because of USB enclosure it is also not possible to use any tool for testing the hard drive surface (and SMART status), including Samsung's diagnostic software: ESTOOL v. 3.01 and MHDD (with ASPI driver it can detect it, but says 'drive not ready')

Any idea how to get around this?

2. Verbatim in their Quick Start Guide says (in capital bold letters):
"Verbatim will not be liable for data loss or any incidental, consequential or special damages, however caused, for breach of warranties or otherwise."

However, I believe that Verbatim cannot deny its liability for data loss in this case, because Verbatim is selling a faulty product (with a known fault, which can be fixed only by firmware update or hard drive exchange to a newer revision), and Verbatim, so far, has not provided any solution.

3. Samsung HD204UI hard drive, as most of other 2 TB hard drives is built in Advanced Format:
samsung.com/glo…=94
&subtype=98&model_cd=552&tab=fea&ppmi=1219

This means that it needs to have partitions properly aligned, otherwise it might work considerably slower and cause other problems.
This is so because with the emulation of 512B sectors, there is the risk that a partition could be misaligned compared to the 4K physical sectors - where it would be unwittingly started in the middle of such a sector. As a result, the clusters of a file system on that partition would end up straddling 4K sectors, which would cause performance problems.

Verbatim is providing the drive pre-formatted to FAT 32. But have they aligned it properly?
I think they should warn their customers about that aligning problem (particularly if someone would like to change formatting for example to NTFS).
Partitioning the hard drive under Windows 7 should align it properly. But Verbatim could provide their customers with a special tool from Acronis and/or Paragon to align the partitions (like WD did).

You can read more about Advanced Format HDs and the alignment problem on those pages:
seagate.com/doc…pdf
consumer.media.seagate.com/201…er/
seagate.com/doc…pdf
anandtech.com/sho…888
blogs.msdn.com/b/j…spx

4. Last but not least: why is warranty for Verbatim product lasting only 2 years in the European Union (and in most of other places in the world), while in USA warranty last 7 years: verbatim.com/Use…pdf
verbatim.com/pro….0/ ?

Why do they discriminate Europeans regarding warranty so grossly?

There have been tested 5 hard drives using different tests (mainly surface access times tests):

1. Samsung HD204UI in Verbatim 2 TB 3.0 USB enclosure.
2. Samsung SP1614N
3. WDC WD6400AAKS
4. WDC WD1600BEVS
5. Seagate ST320410A

The tests results are in 149 files of the screenshots of these tests, available to download in this thread:
forum.hddguru.com/sur…tml

1. Generally Samsung drives (even the new 2TB Samsung HD204UI) seem to have considerably poorer quality of the surface comparing to the 3 years old (or so) Western Digital WDC WD6400AAKS.

2. I would like to see similar tests, in particular of other brands and models of 2 TB hard drives. Please upload your tests results in that thread (click the link above).

3. I wonder why in some hard drives slower access times can bee seen aligning in some diagonal patterns (in HD204UI) and why in some other drives (in WDC WD1600BEVS) a checkered pattern appears (only from the second half of the scan) which "shape" changes regularly depending on the part of the disk surface scanned, while in some other drives no such regular patterns are present?

4. Why is there such a difference in SMART status health notification between various software for Samsung SP1614N (it is red for most of the tests in HDD Health and everything OK in HD Tune)? There is also a significant difference in MHDD scan result and HDDScan result for SP1614N.

5. BTW, it took ca. 31 h to test Samsung HD204UI in Verbatim 2 TB 3.0 USB enclosure on USB 2.0 port.
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