VW Passat 1.4 TSI GT PCH/Lease with 15k miles/pa on a 6+23 x £223.55 - £6482.95 @ Inchcape VW - Cheltenham
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VW Passat 1.4 TSI GT PCH/Lease with 15k miles/pa on a 6+23 x £223.55 - £6482.95 @ Inchcape VW - Cheltenham

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Found 14th May
This a a Personal Contract Hire deal.
I found it on Contract Hire & Leasing but for some reason it's banned on here. The deal should be available directly from VW Inchcape in Cheltenham (and possibly matched by others)

It's the 125bhp model so a bit under powered in my opinion, the 150 versions are about £25/pm more.

I've posted it as a deal because of the mileage allowance. I know there's a lot of discussion around 8k or 10k deals when we just see the headline price so this might only suit a smaller pool of HUKDers that need the extra mileage.

It's competitive price compared to 10k miles/pa deals.

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The diesel S-Max looks to have decent deals at the moment if you're looking for a big family car

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If you're looking for space and for it to be petrol-engined AND have 15k miles, a Hyundai i30 Tourer would be far cheaper than this.

Just don't think many would be willing to pay £270/net/mth for a Passat.
270 a month for a good spec, premium family car is pretty good. I've had 2 of these, they're dull as dishwater, but they work
KentishLad7 m ago

I've had 2 of these, they're dull as dishwater, but they work


...until the point when they don't. The panoramic roof of this Passat has already had warrnty claims on it leaking.
Had a couple of passats. In fact my 2014 model went back in march

Really cannot stand that silly little analogue clock in the middle of the dash. It looks ridiculous
The diesel S-Max looks to have decent deals at the moment if you're looking for a big family car

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stantier230 m ago

Had a couple of passats. In fact my 2014 model went back in marchReally …Had a couple of passats. In fact my 2014 model went back in marchReally cannot stand that silly little analogue clock in the middle of the dash. It looks ridiculous


That is my favourite feature!
stantier250 m ago

Had a couple of passats. In fact my 2014 model went back in marchReally …Had a couple of passats. In fact my 2014 model went back in marchReally cannot stand that silly little analogue clock in the middle of the dash. It looks ridiculous


Probably rejects from the Bentley production line
m5rcc1 h, 24 m ago

If you're looking for space and for it to be petrol-engined AND have 15k …If you're looking for space and for it to be petrol-engined AND have 15k miles, a Hyundai i30 Tourer would be far cheaper than this.Just don't think many would be willing to pay £270/net/mth for a Passat.


Different badge tho innit!
Good for 15k but that is one boring car.
big car + tiny engine = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
airbus33024 m ago

big car + tiny engine = …big car + tiny engine = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Engine is fine. It's 125 or 150 brake. Driven both and they're no slouch especially with the 7 speed dsg. My old I40 1.7 100 brake diesel on the other hand....
airbus33041 m ago

big car + tiny engine = …big car + tiny engine = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


5 years ago I would’ve had the same reaction but this is becoming fairly common. I’ve seen bigger cars with smaller engines, take the qashqai 1.2 for example.

You can’t dismiss a car simply on engine size now. Have to actually look at the numbers and even drive a few to be convinced.
jrw39 m ago

Engine is fine. It's 125 or 150 brake. Driven both and they're no slouch …Engine is fine. It's 125 or 150 brake. Driven both and they're no slouch especially with the 7 speed dsg. My old I40 1.7 100 brake diesel on the other hand....


I think the lowest power 1.7 i40 is 115.6ps (or 114 bhp, as used by proper car manufacturers).

Maybe the badge made it feel much slower than a 125ps Passat?
loofer2 h, 1 m ago

5 years ago I would’ve had the same reaction but this is becoming fairly c …5 years ago I would’ve had the same reaction but this is becoming fairly common. I’ve seen bigger cars with smaller engines, take the qashqai 1.2 for example.You can’t dismiss a car simply on engine size now. Have to actually look at the numbers and even drive a few to be convinced.


I try and aim for minimum 100hp per tonne but that's becoming more and more difficult. 90hp per tonne is the hard minimum in my eyes. Lower than that and you start introducing danger factors due to lack of power.
ezzer721 h, 48 m ago

I think the lowest power 1.7 i40 is 115.6ps (or 114 bhp, as used by proper …I think the lowest power 1.7 i40 is 115.6ps (or 114 bhp, as used by proper car manufacturers).Maybe the badge made it feel much slower than a 125ps Passat?


Correct, it was the 115 and weighed a ton with a non torquey crap engine with an even worse clutch.

I used to have a 90 and a 100 brake diesel that felt faster than that. Wasn't just mine that was slow as there were 5 others at work which got moaned about equally as much. But you carry on with the vw bashing as usual.

Really boring now. We know you work at Kia, we know you think they're better than every other manufacturers and we know you got sacked from vw, ooh sorry, you hated the reliability of vw when you worked there
jrw19 m ago

We know you work at Kia, we know you think they're better than every other …We know you work at Kia, we know you think they're better than every other manufacturers and we know you got sacked from vw, ooh sorry, you hated the reliability of vw when you worked there


Haha, good one - I can honestly say I have NEVER been sacked from anywhere.

I don't think Kia are better than everyone, I love Lexus for example, but they are certainly not as bad as VWs.
1.4 on a Passat? Think I'll pass.
mikeyfive7 m ago

1.4 on a Passat? Think I'll pass.


Looks like you passed on reading the comments too.
It's 2018 not 1998. Things have moved on a bit since whatever decade you're living in. It has either 125 or 150 bhp. More than the 1.6 diesel or same as the 2.0 diesel.
jrw39 m ago

Correct, it was the 115 and weighed a ton with a non torquey crap engine


That engine has 280nm of torque, a Passat 1.6 TDi has 250nm.

The car probably is heavier, it’s not as cheaply made (behind the scenes) which is why it is much, much more reliable.

And as for crap engines, I’m pretty sure they’re not as failure prone as VW units - mind you, neither are egg shells!
jrw8 m ago

Looks like you passed on reading the comments too. It's 2018 not 1998. …Looks like you passed on reading the comments too. It's 2018 not 1998. Things have moved on a bit since whatever decade you're living in. It has either 125 or 150 bhp. More than the 1.6 diesel or same as the 2.0 diesel.


You'll be thrashing the **** out of that engine to get anything like decent performance.
I've driven a Seat Ibiza with this exact engine and it struggles in that.
Falpachino7 h, 11 m ago

The diesel S-Max looks to have decent deals at the moment if you're …The diesel S-Max looks to have decent deals at the moment if you're looking for a big family car[Image]


link please
mikeyfive17 m ago

You'll be thrashing the **** out of that engine to get anything like …You'll be thrashing the **** out of that engine to get anything like decent performance.I've driven a Seat Ibiza with this exact engine and it struggles in that.


Well you're wrong. Test drive one and see.
jrw6 m ago

Well you're wrong. Test drive one and see.


I'll give it a miss. Thanks.
mikeyfive24 m ago

You'll be thrashing the **** out of that engine to get anything like …You'll be thrashing the **** out of that engine to get anything like decent performance.I've driven a Seat Ibiza with this exact engine and it struggles in that.


This engine in an Ibiza would be encroaching hot hatch territory - it definitely wouldn't struggle.

You will almost certainly have driven the normally aspirated 1.4, which was one of the most tragic engines of all time and has now been euthanised.
ezzer7232 m ago

That engine has 280nm of torque, a Passat 1.6 TDi has 250nm.The car …That engine has 280nm of torque, a Passat 1.6 TDi has 250nm.The car probably is heavier, it’s not as cheaply made (behind the scenes) which is why it is much, much more reliable.And as for crap engines, I’m pretty sure they’re not as failure prone as VW units - mind you, neither are egg shells!


It was crap mate. Absolute pile of crap just like the other 5 we had in the company.

Faulty electrics including but not limited too multiple door handles (keyless), rear view cameras, wiper motors (pretty important), media units. Mechanically it was clutches, clutch cylinders, everything clutch related, wheel bearings, shock absorbers, engine cutting out and motorway speeds(happened to them all but cause never found) and on top of that shocking service. Parts were always on back order (no wonder when they fail so often) and we always had to chase the garage.


Suffice to say we're now driving bmw hybrids and senior staff have Passats, albeit the 1.6 but they all like them better than the 1.7 Hyundai and the 1.5 Megane diesel they replaced.

Beemer is great for me as it's super cheap tax being a hybrid but they're around 40k list price. Coming up to 18k miles in 8 months and not a single issue.


Conversely, just had two new Renault capturs delivered as pool cars and one broke down on its first trip out
ezzer722 m ago

This engine in an Ibiza would be encroaching hot hatch territory - it …This engine in an Ibiza would be encroaching hot hatch territory - it definitely wouldn't struggle.You will almost certainly have driven the normally aspirated 1.4, which was one of the most tragic engines of all time and has now been euthanised.


No, it was an FR. Not much cop tbh.
ezzer724 m ago

This engine in an Ibiza would be encroaching hot hatch territory - it …This engine in an Ibiza would be encroaching hot hatch territory - it definitely wouldn't struggle.You will almost certainly have driven the normally aspirated 1.4, which was one of the most tragic engines of all time and has now been euthanised.


The 1.4 mpi. Bullet proof engine. My 97 golf had one. I was shocked when I saw they were chucking out cheap Ibizas a couple of years back with these engines.

They were slow in a mk3 golf with relatively little safety features so can't imagine in a 2016 Ibiza.


The tsi in the Ibiza however would fly.
KentishLad8 h, 18 m ago

270 a month for a good spec, premium family car is pretty good. I've had 2 …270 a month for a good spec, premium family car is pretty good. I've had 2 of these, they're dull as dishwater, but they work


"Premium" - really? It's a VW and by the time you want a Passat you should have seen through the whole VW fashion nonsense.
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mikeyfive4 m ago

No, it was an FR. Not much cop tbh.


Maybe it wasn’t running right, a faulty sensor or something - not unheard of in VW World...

Definitely nothing wrong with the performance of a 1.4 turbo Ibiza, honestly.
alexjameshaines8 h, 12 m ago

I try and aim for minimum 100hp per tonne but that's becoming more and …I try and aim for minimum 100hp per tonne but that's becoming more and more difficult. 90hp per tonne is the hard minimum in my eyes. Lower than that and you start introducing danger factors due to lack of power.


My Citroen c1 is 105 per tonne. But it does weigh 805kg.
smellyonion2 h, 22 m ago

My Citroen c1 is 105 per tonne. But it does weigh 805kg.


That's exactly the point. Power alone is useless. Unless you know the weight of the car you can't guesstimate how it'll perform! That's why it's easy to tell these bigger family cars are generally underpowered with a 1.6 diesel at 115 bhp circa 1.5 tonnes. A torquey diesel helps over a similarly powered petrol though
alexjameshaines57 m ago

That's exactly the point. Power alone is useless. Unless you know the …That's exactly the point. Power alone is useless. Unless you know the weight of the car you can't guesstimate how it'll perform! That's why it's easy to tell these bigger family cars are generally underpowered with a 1.6 diesel at 115 bhp circa 1.5 tonnes. A torquey diesel helps over a similarly powered petrol though


Not a fat lot in the torque figures nowadays between petrol and diesel with the better turbos on the petrols. Hybrid is the way forward though. Bags of torque from a 0rpm.
ezzer7210 h, 55 m ago

That engine has 280nm of torque, a Passat 1.6 TDi has 250nm.The car …That engine has 280nm of torque, a Passat 1.6 TDi has 250nm.The car probably is heavier, it’s not as cheaply made (behind the scenes) which is why it is much, much more reliable.And as for crap engines, I’m pretty sure they’re not as failure prone as VW units - mind you, neither are egg shells!


Just reading power to weights and my i40 was woeful with a shocking 0-60 or 11.5 seconds!33800088-RCVY0.jpg

Passat:
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Edited by: "jrw" 15th May
loofer17 h, 14 m ago

Different badge tho innit!


A good thing. Hyundai far more reliable.
m5rcc11 m ago

A good thing. Hyundai far more reliable.


Not in my experience or the experience of the other 5 people that had them at work too, as well as friends and colleagues that wouldn't have another either due to issues with reliability or after sales service.....i.e trying to wriggle out of doing work under warranty. All well and good having a 5 yr warranty when you have to jump through hoops to claim on it.

I have had VW's and Skoda's since 2001 (including the infamous 1.4tsi 180bhp engine) as well as many friends and family and I, hand on heart have never had a mechanical issue or breakdown with any of them and neither have my friends, apart from one who had a turbo give out on him on his 130bhp diesel but it had done 140k miles and run exclusively on supermarket diesel so no additives. My 54 plate Bora is still going (friend bought it) and is now on 185k on all original mechanicals run exclusively on Shell or BP diesel. Off the top of my head going through myself, friends and family i can count at least 22 VAG cars over the last 18/19 years, all with no issues.

Also whilst typing this I have just remembered my ex had a Hyundai coupe years ago and that was terribly unreliable too mechanically, plagued with fuelling issues that surprisingly the garage couldn't resolve!

So I know 9 current or ex hyundai owners and all have had issues.

So my experience on reliability issues:

VAG - 5%
Hyundai - 100%

I mean, they are that unreliable you never see an old VW on the road do you
jrw12 m ago

So my experience on reliability issues:VAG - 5%Hyundai - 100%


That's all well and good for you, but as with anyone who counterclaims, you cannot extrapolate your experience to that of the whole country.

In general, a Hyundai will will be more reliable than a VW. There are far more complaints for them, even more than if you removed its sales advantage.


jrw12 m ago

I mean, they are that unreliable you never see an old VW on the road do …I mean, they are that unreliable you never see an old VW on the road do you


For the simple reason VW has over an 8% market share of UK sales compared to 3.7% for Hyundai.
jrw41 m ago

Just reading power to weights and my i40 was woeful with a shocking 0-60 …Just reading power to weights and my i40 was woeful with a shocking 0-60 or 11.5 seconds![Image] Passat:[Image] [Image] BMW 330e:[Image]


I fully accept that an i40 isn’t a sports car, but would you not concede that the Passat is unreassuringly light for a car of it’s size..?
jrw30 m ago

Not in my experience or the experience of the other 5 people that had them …Not in my experience or the experience of the other 5 people that had them at work too, as well as friends and colleagues that wouldn't have another either due to issues with reliability or after sales service.....i.e trying to wriggle out of doing work under warranty. All well and good having a 5 yr warranty when you have to jump through hoops to claim on it.I have had VW's and Skoda's since 2001 (including the infamous 1.4tsi 180bhp engine) as well as many friends and family and I, hand on heart have never had a mechanical issue or breakdown with any of them and neither have my friends, apart from one who had a turbo give out on him on his 130bhp diesel but it had done 140k miles and run exclusively on supermarket diesel so no additives. My 54 plate Bora is still going (friend bought it) and is now on 185k on all original mechanicals run exclusively on Shell or BP diesel. Off the top of my head going through myself, friends and family i can count at least 22 VAG cars over the last 18/19 years, all with no issues.Also whilst typing this I have just remembered my ex had a Hyundai coupe years ago and that was terribly unreliable too mechanically, plagued with fuelling issues that surprisingly the garage couldn't resolve!So I know 9 current or ex hyundai owners and all have had issues.So my experience on reliability issues:VAG - 5%Hyundai - 100%I mean, they are that unreliable you never see an old VW on the road do you


That’s all terribly convenient isn’t it

I’m not going to continue to go around in circles, I have worked with VW and know exactly how troublesome they are, first hand knowledge and experience.

I believe you when you say your i40 needed a couple of door handles and a reversing camera, but feel that is much less critical or inconvenient than having to stop off for a new engine - virtually every VW Group engine has a string of common issues and high failure rates, this cannot be denied.

And yes you do see older VWs around (though in shrinking numbers), in the vast majority of cases they have had quite a lot of money spent on them to achieve this. I’ve said it many times before, they are the automotive equivalent of Trigger’s broom.
Unsurprisingly, Mitsubishi buy engines from VW

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ezzer7229 m ago

I fully accept that an i40 isn’t a sports car, but would you not concede t …I fully accept that an i40 isn’t a sports car, but would you not concede that the Passat is unreassuringly light for a car of it’s size..?


But its a hell of a lot quicker than the Hyundai regardless of weight, also a hell of a lot cheaper on company car and fuel tax.

ezzer7222 m ago

That’s all terribly convenient isn’t it I’m not going to continue to go …That’s all terribly convenient isn’t it I’m not going to continue to go around in circles, I have worked with VW and know exactly how troublesome they are, first hand knowledge and experience.I believe you when you say your i40 needed a couple of door handles and a reversing camera, but feel that is much less critical or inconvenient than having to stop off for a new engine - virtually every VW Group engine has a string of common issues and high failure rates, this cannot be denied.And yes you do see older VWs around (though in shrinking numbers), in the vast majority of cases they have had quite a lot of money spent on them to achieve this. I’ve said it many times before, they are the automotive equivalent of Trigger’s broom.


Not convenient just fact based on personal experience. I know of one person (friend of a friend) who bought a dodgy GTI from some garage in Bradford and the engine blew up which was down to the faulty Cam tensioner on a run of engines in early 2009 but a whole new engine was replaced under warranty with no issue. After the trouble I had with less major things on the Hyundai i can only imagine the hell I would have had to go through if the engine blew.

ezzer7211 m ago

Unsurprisingly, Mitsubishi buy engines from VW [Image]


You can make any statistics look how you want them to, its all based on perception and how many people report issues...we go over this every time. Its all about expectations. Someone with a BMW or an Audi is going to have a high expectation than someone with a Kia so are more likely to complain and voice their opinion. In the end, I got fed up with Hyundai and just put up with it. If I had an Audi, I wouldn't, but then again I wouldn't have an issue getting any issue resolved.

I see Renault on there.....Every single Renault the company has has had issues with engine management lights, limp mode, dpf etc etc and they are replaced every two years but they keep having them as the boss is friends with the boss of the Renault garage so they just get fixed no issue. They also have a BHP per ton figure of 72

Funny how JLR aren't on there when we have had both a Land Rover Disco and a XF have engine failures (the XF went back for a refund as it was in the garage more than it was at work) and the directors Range Rovers have had no end of issues, so much so he cancelled his latest order for a SVR and now has a Bentley Bentayga. They also wrecked his drive when his and his Wifes RR's went for a service and they cross threaded the sump plugs on both cars. It took a 9 month legal battle to get compensation for a new drive (was a 6 figure amount though (shock))
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