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Wd elements desktop storage with USB 3.0 offers reliable, high-capacity, add-on storage, Fast data transfer rates and universal connectivity with USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 devices. The sleek design features up to 12TB capacity Plus WD quality and reliability.

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mgk16/09/2019 15:59

Does anyone know what is inside ...I beleive the WD 10TB ate either Red or …Does anyone know what is inside ...I beleive the WD 10TB ate either Red or a red labled as white as there is no other 10tb made - someone please correct me with better knowledge


It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book Duos. These are advertised as having WD Reds inside. They also have an easy pop off lid, including a lever to get it open and a button inside the lid to eject the disks.
Edited by: "FrattonPark" 16th Sep 2019
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It looks like they never ship it
£15/tb gets my vote
Good price but it depends if it's as noisy as the 10Tb model.
Would this be ideal for a NAS?
anuruddha16/09/2019 14:58

It looks like they never ship it


They do, got 4 last time around when it was 1-2 months, came in 3 week, also just got £80 back from ACS (after a bit of flirting!) and 2 extra months Amazon Prime added to an account for their "oversight" on the higher sold price
vbhagaur16/09/2019 15:18

Would this be ideal for a NAS?


Its not an enterprise "spec" drive inside it, but yes, no issues using as a media server / ripper / nas / ext mass storage etc etc
Cancelled my £199.99 order and replaced for £179.99. If it ever ships.
Simong_198416/09/2019 15:17

Good price but it depends if it's as noisy as the 10Tb model.


Bit of a whirl on power / seek down, but not found them noisy in anyway Si, also getting about 10MB transer speeds, faster, than WD say they do!
Edited by: "bitcoin5" 16th Sep 2019
bitcoin516/09/2019 15:21

They do, got 4 last time around when it was 1-2 months, came in 3 week, …They do, got 4 last time around when it was 1-2 months, came in 3 week, also just got £80 back from ACS (after a bit of flirting!) and 2 extra months Amazon Prime added to an account for their "oversight" on the higher sold price


Flirting you say, hmmm
inb4 that's a lot of porm to lose
Can this be shucked and used without and pin taping?
Let's try to get through this thread without using the word 'shuck' or 'shucked'.
Edited by: "Jinkz" 16th Sep 2019
Crazy how they're only £7 more than the 10TB.
Does anyone know what is inside ...I beleive the WD 10TB ate either Red or a red labled as white as there is no other 10tb made - someone please correct me with better knowledge
Jinkz16/09/2019 15:47

Let's try to get through this thread without using the word 'shuck' or …Let's try to get through this thread without using the word 'shuck' or 'shucked'.


Why? After all it's likely why most people buy these drives.
mgk16/09/2019 15:59

Does anyone know what is inside ...I beleive the WD 10TB ate either Red or …Does anyone know what is inside ...I beleive the WD 10TB ate either Red or a red labled as white as there is no other 10tb made - someone please correct me with better knowledge


It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book Duos. These are advertised as having WD Reds inside. They also have an easy pop off lid, including a lever to get it open and a button inside the lid to eject the disks.
Edited by: "FrattonPark" 16th Sep 2019
FrattonPark16/09/2019 16:09

It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book …It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book Duos. These are advertised as having WD Reds inside. They also have an easy pop off lid, including a lever to get it open and a button inside the lid to eject the disks.


Thanks....Is that the standard Duos or only the EX2's that have the easy access? I can see pics on amazon of the EX2 being easy to take out without voiding warranty
mgk16/09/2019 16:10

Thanks....Is that the standard Duos or only the EX2's that have the easy …Thanks....Is that the standard Duos or only the EX2's that have the easy access? I can see pics on amazon of the EX2 being easy to take out without voiding warranty


These: Link

If you can wait, setup an Amazon Camelizer reminder and you'll get a good deal. For example on Prime Day a couple of months back the 16TB (2 x 8TB) My Book Duos were £286.99

No need to crack the cases open, discs have three year warranty.
Edited by: "FrattonPark" 16th Sep 2019
FrattonPark16/09/2019 16:09

It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book …It'll be white label. If you want guaranteed Reds then buy the WD My Book Duos. These are advertised as having WD Reds inside. They also have an easy pop off lid, including a lever to get it open and a button inside the lid to eject the disks.


Quite right. Whites as standard in single bay WD units. Reds on duo units. Not heard of 12TB red drives yet either. For most PSUs using SATA, sellotape required over their power pin for them to spin up, but via USB dock or (nasty) molex to sata this is bypassed. White drives are not the same as red drives - different idling settings, run temperatures, not NAS-rated, sata spec etc and they do have insufficient ventilation in the shipped caddy, but they dolook the same.
Edited by: "friar_chris" 16th Sep 2019
FrattonPark16/09/2019 16:07

Why? After all it's likely why most people buy these drives.


Its a buzz word everyone seems to have latched onto all of a sudden, and it's the same questions.
bitcoin516/09/2019 15:21

They do, got 4 last time around when it was 1-2 months, came in 3 week, …They do, got 4 last time around when it was 1-2 months, came in 3 week, also just got £80 back from ACS (after a bit of flirting!) and 2 extra months Amazon Prime added to an account for their "oversight" on the higher sold price


Just ordered one. Hopefully they will deliver soon or send cancellation email
Guys do you have any idea will it work with ps4 pro(y)
Edited by: "anuruddha" 16th Sep 2019
anuruddha16/09/2019 17:00

Guys do you have any idea will it work with ps4 pro(y)


Do you mean for shucking out the drive inside it and putting in the PS4P or just as an external game location drive?
anuruddha16/09/2019 16:59

Just ordered one. Hopefully they will deliver soon or send cancellation …Just ordered one. Hopefully they will deliver soon or send cancellation email


Noice!

One came in about 3 weeks, 2 in 3 weeks 3 days and the other one, about 4 weeks or so, even if they do not come for a month, they will still be worth the £179 compared to the £199 they are in the sale normally!
Very tempted by this, but with the parity system I use (Snapraid) I'd need to buy two to get any additional usable space - three if I wanted to keep existing drives.
bitcoin516/09/2019 17:05

Do you mean for shucking out the drive inside it and putting in the PS4P …Do you mean for shucking out the drive inside it and putting in the PS4P or just as an external game location drive?


Just as an external drive. My 4tb external drive is almost full. If I have this drive I can transfer everything to this drive and still I have 8Tb left
anuruddha16/09/2019 17:00

Guys do you have any idea will it work with ps4 pro(y)


As far as I know, PS4 takes only up to 8tb
costi_costa16/09/2019 18:14

As far as I know, PS4 takes only up to 8tb


I heard it too. Is anybody tried with 10tb drive?
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if you shuck an external drive, do you invalidate it's warranty ?
deleted217260516/09/2019 18:41

if you shuck an external drive, do you invalidate it's warranty ?


Not if you shuck it without damage
deleted217260516/09/2019 18:41

if you shuck an external drive, do you invalidate it's warranty ?


no keep the caddy and put it back in if you need to do a warranty claim
Edited by: "malhal" 16th Sep 2019
Usually when WD launches a new size of Elements they use retail drives like Reds so I think any one that takes a chance on pre-ordering this might get lucky. Then usually the next batch have a white label stuck over the Red label so still lucky for those that know the trick to peel off the label! Then after about 3 months they start putting the white label directly on the disk still a great drive but doens't have the resale value.
friar_chris16/09/2019 16:24

Quite right. Whites as standard in single bay WD units. Reds on duo units. …Quite right. Whites as standard in single bay WD units. Reds on duo units. Not heard of 12TB red drives yet either. For most PSUs using SATA, sellotape required over their power pin for them to spin up, but via USB dock or (nasty) molex to sata this is bypassed. White drives are not the same as red drives - different idling settings, run temperatures, not NAS-rated, sata spec etc and they do have insufficient ventilation in the shipped caddy, but they do look the same.


"Different idling settings"... Can you please explain?
anuruddha16/09/2019 18:22

I heard it too. Is anybody tried with 10tb drive?


I had heard people have tried but could only get it to work for 8TB. Have to wait to see if Sony update the PS4 to support larger drives or not, my guess is they won't bother supporting more than 8TB. Xbox is also limited to 8TB external drives, but can use 2 external drives simultaneously so I assume they won't add support for larger either as you can already go to 16TB there. It would be nice if Sony did add support for more than one external drive though.

I would also appreciate if they added external drive support to the PS3 as well (I know, I am dreaming at this stage), 2TB like the Xbox 360 would probably be enough, just so I can get my full PS Plus collection downloaded onto it for backup in case things are removed from the marketplace. I already have a 1TB internal on that and it is full. I heard 1.5TB is the limit for internal on the PS3 as 2TB can cause issues.
bitcoin516/09/2019 17:06

Noice!One came in about 3 weeks, 2 in 3 weeks 3 days and the other one, …Noice!One came in about 3 weeks, 2 in 3 weeks 3 days and the other one, about 4 weeks or so, even if they do not come for a month, they will still be worth the £179 compared to the £199 they are in the sale normally!


Have you opened any, interested to hear what you found.

Thanks
anuruddha16/09/2019 14:58

It looks like they never ship it


They do ship em, just have to wait a bit sometimes, last one I ordered came in 3 weeks IIRC - when ordered it was saying 1-3 months though. So on balance worked out ok I think
Stu.C16/09/2019 20:55

"Different idling settings"... Can you please explain?


My google searches tonight reveal there was a utility (wdidle3.exe) which before 2017 allowed you to modify the idle time (as I understand it - time after which the drive would spin down to save power or whatever). It sounds asthough it can no longer be tweaked. My guess would be that in a NAS unit you would have a long idle time on a WD Red, since the system would decide when to spin down drives, but in an external drive (with a white unit) you'd want the idle time to have a smallish value.

Original comment was informed by something I read on a forum here, but can't find (on this site or via google). Someone (as I write this I think "yeeeah") said they'd read that the white and red variant drives have different idle times following a discussion of whether the two drives are a) identical or b) different.

I have a red and white 10TB drive, but haven't noticed how long the drives take to spin down when not being used - my use is archiving, so it's not something I've come across. The only time I've noticed idling being an issue was with the old WD Green's which used to fall foul of spinning down too quickly and consequently spinning up again and having a disproportionately large number of spin up/down cycles which were linked to drive failures - but WD set it rediculously low.....8 seconds or so?!
£15/TB is an excellent price for these larger drives
nige18216/09/2019 20:58

I had heard people have tried but could only get it to work for 8TB. Have …I had heard people have tried but could only get it to work for 8TB. Have to wait to see if Sony update the PS4 to support larger drives or not, my guess is they won't bother supporting more than 8TB. Xbox is also limited to 8TB external drives, but can use 2 external drives simultaneously so I assume they won't add support for larger either as you can already go to 16TB there. It would be nice if Sony did add support for more than one external drive though.I would also appreciate if they added external drive support to the PS3 as well (I know, I am dreaming at this stage), 2TB like the Xbox 360 would probably be enough, just so I can get my full PS Plus collection downloaded onto it for backup in case things are removed from the marketplace. I already have a 1TB internal on that and it is full. I heard 1.5TB is the limit for internal on the PS3 as 2TB can cause issues.


Thank you for the information. I hope they will send a firmware update to support two external drives. At least that will sort out my issue:)
friar_chris16/09/2019 21:20

My google searches tonight reveal there was a utility (wdidle3.exe) which …My google searches tonight reveal there was a utility (wdidle3.exe) which before 2017 allowed you to modify the idle time (as I understand it - time after which the drive would spin down to save power or whatever). It sounds asthough it can no longer be tweaked. My guess would be that in a NAS unit you would have a long idle time on a WD Red, since the system would decide when to spin down drives, but in an external drive (with a white unit) you'd want the idle time to have a smallish value.Original comment was informed by something I read on a forum here, but can't find (on this site or via google). Someone (as I write this I think "yeeeah") said they'd read that the white and red variant drives have different idle times following a discussion of whether the two drives are a) identical or b) different.I have a red and white 10TB drive, but haven't noticed how long the drives take to spin down when not being used - my use is archiving, so it's not something I've come across. The only time I've noticed idling being an issue was with the old WD Green's which used to fall foul of spinning down too quickly and consequently spinning up again and having a disproportionately large number of spin up/down cycles which were linked to drive failures - but WD set it rediculously low.....8 seconds or so?!


If you have white and red you can run a smart test to see if the spinup/down times are vastly different. I think Crystal Disk Info is one program used for this. I do it within my Freenas system. Be interested to know the out put as everything I had seen before suggested white and red were identicla

The discussion you reference is probably this on the freenas forum
ixsystems.com/com…71/
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