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R0adRat02/01/2020 00:25

Can you shuck these?


Please, children visit this site.
Neocloudeh02/01/2020 00:32

12TB is cheaper per TB right now


Well that proves me wrong pretty much instantly - the 12TB is easily the one to go for (at ~£12.90/TB) unless circumstances restrict the number of drives you can use.
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Can you shuck these?
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R0adRat02/01/2020 00:25

Can you shuck these?


Please, children visit this site.
What type of drive inside? Is it WD red? Thanks in advance.
12TB is cheaper per TB right now
Works out at £14.35/TB, which since Black Friday has gone is likely to be as low as you'll get until Prime Day comes around. Kinda tempted, as it's below my £15/TB threshold, but having bought 4 of the 12TB version in the past six weeks, I don't think I really need any more storage for a while…
Neocloudeh02/01/2020 00:32

12TB is cheaper per TB right now


Well that proves me wrong pretty much instantly - the 12TB is easily the one to go for (at ~£12.90/TB) unless circumstances restrict the number of drives you can use.
terrestris02/01/2020 00:38

Well that proves me wrong pretty much instantly - the 12TB is easily the …Well that proves me wrong pretty much instantly - the 12TB is easily the one to go for (at ~£12.90/TB) unless circumstances restrict the number of drives you can use.



If you want the 12TB, you'd better pounce now - the various times it was at this price through Black Friday week it sold out in about an hour every time.
terrestris02/01/2020 00:55

If you want the 12TB, you'd better pounce now - the various times it was …If you want the 12TB, you'd better pounce now - the various times it was at this price through Black Friday week it sold out in about an hour every time.



Yup, been praying this price would come back for weeks because I missed it twice :/
Just got the 12gb as I missed it several times before cheers for the heads up!
These are now SMR drives for those interested.

I have a 10 along with the 12tb elements, which will be going back due to the deal with the WD Black 12tb.

These are slow as hell like the 12tb version and do not have Red specs.


The 12tb wd blacks are like rockets, genuine PMR.
robo98902/01/2020 02:04

These are now SMR drives for those interested.I have a 10 along with the …These are now SMR drives for those interested.I have a 10 along with the 12tb elements, which will be going back due to the deal with the WD Black 12tb.These are slow as hell like the 12tb version and do not have Red specs.The 12tb wd blacks are like rockets, genuine PMR.



Do you have a source for this ? (SMR). I am not sure you are correct.
Looking on r/DataHoarder people seem to think these are PMR, but it's unclear....
You mention you have 10 of these - can you let us know what the model number of your 14TB Elements Whites were?
(my 10TB Whites were WD100EMAZ... so I'd guess WD120EMAZ and WD140EMAZ)


Western Digital don't provide datasheets for their White drives, so details are sparse on these new drives

Red: Product Page / PDF Datasheet
Red Pro: Product Page / PDF Datasheet
Blue: Product Page / PDF Datasheet
Purple: Product Page / PDF Datasheet
Gold: Product Page / PDF Datasheet
Black: Product Page / PDF Datasheet

Elements: PDF Info Sheet / PDF Product Overview
My Book: PDF User Manual
My Book Duo: PDF User Manual

I've picked up WD Reds and Whites in 10TB/12TB variants over the past month (shucked from Duos, Elements & My Books) and speeds are ~200MB read+write
Edited by: "kowalski" 2nd Jan
Further down the rabbit-hole and a discussion about 12TB v 14TB drives
reddit.com/r/D…ed/
(WD "Easystore" models referred to on reddit are Best Buy exclusives. Almost identical to Elements but have slightly different branding so they can avoid price-matching competitors.)
Nice price, pity I already have many blank disk of 6tb over Christmas as stock.
Edited by: "pokemon2" 3rd Jan
kowalski02/01/2020 02:13

Do you have a source for this ? (SMR). I am not sure you are …Do you have a source for this ? (SMR). I am not sure you are correct.Looking on r/DataHoarder people seem to think these are PMR, but it's unclear....You mention you have 10 of these - can you let us know what the model number of your 14TB Elements Whites were?(my 10TB Whites were WD100EMAZ... so I'd guess WD120EMAZ and WD140EMAZ)Western Digital don't provide datasheets for their White drives, so details are sparse on these new drivesRed: Product Page / PDF DatasheetRed Pro: Product Page / PDF DatasheetBlue: Product Page / PDF DatasheetPurple: Product Page / PDF DatasheetGold: Product Page / PDF DatasheetBlack: Product Page / PDF DatasheetElements: PDF Info Sheet / PDF Product OverviewMy Book: PDF User ManualMy Book Duo: PDF User ManualI've picked up WD Reds and Whites in 10TB/12TB variants over the past month (shucked from Duos, Elements & My Books) and speeds are ~200MB read+write


My source is their performance, they are more than 2.5 x slower for IO intensive / RAID rebuilding / rewrite type stuff.

They perform almost exactly the same as my old SMR Seagate Archive V2 drives which were SMR.

You can hear the rewrites and massive increase in disc access, the writes also drop through the floor for no apparent reason much like the old Archive V2.

When you know, you know.
kowalski02/01/2020 02:13

Do you have a source for this ? (SMR). I am not sure you are …Do you have a source for this ? (SMR). I am not sure you are correct.Looking on r/DataHoarder people seem to think these are PMR, but it's unclear....You mention you have 10 of these - can you let us know what the model number of your 14TB Elements Whites were?(my 10TB Whites were WD100EMAZ... so I'd guess WD120EMAZ and WD140EMAZ)Western Digital don't provide datasheets for their White drives, so details are sparse on these new drivesRed: Product Page / PDF DatasheetRed Pro: Product Page / PDF DatasheetBlue: Product Page / PDF DatasheetPurple: Product Page / PDF DatasheetGold: Product Page / PDF DatasheetBlack: Product Page / PDF DatasheetElements: PDF Info Sheet / PDF Product OverviewMy Book: PDF User ManualMy Book Duo: PDF User ManualI've picked up WD Reds and Whites in 10TB/12TB variants over the past month (shucked from Duos, Elements & My Books) and speeds are ~200MB read+write


Nobody on data hoarder with any intellect has made a statement either way, or even owns one.

It will all come out the next few weeks that these are officially SMR once enough clever people buy them.
robo98902/01/2020 09:33

My source is their performance, they are more than 2.5 x slower for IO …My source is their performance, they are more than 2.5 x slower for IO intensive / RAID rebuilding / rewrite type stuff.They perform almost exactly the same as my old SMR Seagate Archive V2 drives which were SMR.You can hear the rewrites and massive increase in disc access, the writes also drop through the floor for no apparent reason much like the old Archive V2.When you know, you know.



With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just storing films, then it doesn`t make sense to raid them, as mirrors for instance,, just do an occasional copy of changed data to the `other` disk, that way you avoid the slowness of synchronizing the whole disk pair, with the inevitable early death of the disks. My disks just idle away most of the time.
robo98902/01/2020 09:33

My source is their performance, they are more than 2.5 x slower for IO …My source is their performance, they are more than 2.5 x slower for IO intensive / RAID rebuilding / rewrite type stuff.They perform almost exactly the same as my old SMR Seagate Archive V2 drives which were SMR.You can hear the rewrites and massive increase in disc access, the writes also drop through the floor for no apparent reason much like the old Archive V2.When you know, you know.



Just for more data points... I bought 4 of the 12TB Elements versions last week. Tested them for about 8 hours. Shucked them, tested them again for about 8 hours, then ran extended S.M.A.R.T. on each. Performance seems in-line with the RED's I have, along with firmware being identical. Very doubtful these are SMR drives as they perform characteristically like PMR drives. I'm not saying robo989 is wrong... but WD are known to put different drives in different batches. Mine were PMR.

When you know, you know.
Horrorwood02/01/2020 13:20

I can't vote this hot when this was a few hours …I can't vote this hot when this was a few hours ago:https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/12tb-external-drive-for-less-than-the-10tb-and-much-cheaper-than-14tb-per-tb-amazoncouk-3379534



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deleted1781202/01/2020 13:40

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Yeah yeah I know but when its literally less than 24 hours ago.. if I was in the market I'd wait (I am not, I bought the 12tb :))
I WANT but realistically DON'T need, however, thinking it would benefit me by replacing my SMR Seagate ( 8TB ) HDD with this one just for the better performance and possibly more reliabilty... Do you think not???
jasee02/01/2020 11:26

With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just …With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just storing films, then it doesn`t make sense to raid them, as mirrors for instance,, just do an occasional copy of changed data to the `other` disk, that way you avoid the slowness of synchronizing the whole disk pair, with the inevitable early death of the disks. My disks just idle away most of the time.


Care to explain a little more? I currently have two 10 TB drives which I have done a union filsystem so they appear as one drive. I am only storing films so figure if they break it is okay, and besides I (think?) will still have half of my data. I was thinking of buying something like this and putting them in a raid, but are you saying I'm missing a trick? Should I just be getting double the capacity I want and then running rsync scheduled once a week to keep two sets in sync? Just keen to set things up sensible.
danieljcroberts02/01/2020 21:39

Care to explain a little more? I currently have two 10 TB drives which I …Care to explain a little more? I currently have two 10 TB drives which I have done a union filsystem so they appear as one drive. I am only storing films so figure if they break it is okay, and besides I (think?) will still have half of my data. I was thinking of buying something like this and putting them in a raid, but are you saying I'm missing a trick? Should I just be getting double the capacity I want and then running rsync scheduled once a week to keep two sets in sync? Just keen to set things up sensible.



Don`t know what a union file system is, if in appears to be about twice the original size (20 terabytes) then it]`s raid 0. (really not recommended). If it appears to be only 10 terabytes , then it`s raid 1. So it appears you already have some sort of raid.
With raid 0, there is no protection. If one disk fails that is the end of your data on both disks.
With raid 1, the data is mirrored to the other disk, so if one fails, you should still have all the data on the other disk.
I can`t see the connection with rsync, why do you need a raid AND rsync? Rsync is a decent utility for sychronising files and directories or disks.
This deal came in a good time, had an Amazon Business voucher to use (£50 off on £200). Thanks!
italoarmstrong02/01/2020 12:59

Just for more data points... I bought 4 of the 12TB Elements versions last …Just for more data points... I bought 4 of the 12TB Elements versions last week. Tested them for about 8 hours. Shucked them, tested them again for about 8 hours, then ran extended S.M.A.R.T. on each. Performance seems in-line with the RED's I have, along with firmware being identical. Very doubtful these are SMR drives as they perform characteristically like PMR drives. I'm not saying robo989 is wrong... but WD are known to put different drives in different batches. Mine were PMR.When you know, you know.



jasee02/01/2020 11:26

With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just …With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just storing films, then it doesn`t make sense to raid them, as mirrors for instance,, just do an occasional copy of changed data to the `other` disk, that way you avoid the slowness of synchronizing the whole disk pair, with the inevitable early death of the disks. My disks just idle away most of the time.



jasee02/01/2020 11:26

With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just …With these SMR drives, if the data doesn`t change much eg you are just storing films, then it doesn`t make sense to raid them, as mirrors for instance,, just do an occasional copy of changed data to the `other` disk, that way you avoid the slowness of synchronizing the whole disk pair, with the inevitable early death of the disks. My disks just idle away most of the time.


I guarantee these are SMR.

Test yourself east to prove.

Just copy 600-700GB+ to them in one transfer, pause the transfer near the end and you will be greeted with a few minutes of writes continuing.

This is the buffer which is flushed to the drive that is the signature of SMR technology.

They are perfectly fine for archiving.
robo98906/01/2020 23:35

I guarantee these are SMR.Test yourself east to prove.Just copy 600-700GB+ …I guarantee these are SMR.Test yourself east to prove.Just copy 600-700GB+ to them in one transfer, pause the transfer near the end and you will be greeted with a few minutes of writes continuing.This is the buffer which is flushed to the drive that is the signature of SMR technology.They are perfectly fine for archiving.



Yes, I agree, writing will be slow, reading should be fine, so with a movie collection you are just slowly adding more files so you can keep two copies on two disks without using raid using rsync or synctoy or something similar, KISS
Edited by: "jasee" 7th Jan
39617311.jpgHere is mine. Using the information here (possibly an out of date sheet?) it appears to be a 10,000rpm unit with a 16mb cache buffer. Can't comment on the cache, but crystal mark info disk states it is 5400rpm like all previous recent drives I'd had (red and white, 10 and 12tb).

I've carried out a 700GB of data, paused it just before the end. Drive seemed to stop within 1-³ seconds. I cancelled the transfer and was able to eject the device immediately. This doesn't suggest to me it is a drive which is having to complete writes for very long.

My conclusion: PMR
Edited by: "friar_chris" 7th Jan
This deal was expired and I posted it as a new deal around midnight. It’s part of Amazon’s promo today with loads of the WD drives 8TB-14TB Elements/My Books on offer.

My deal got merged with this, but all the comments seem to have been lost. Bit annoying as I linked to all those drives pages on Amazon and worked out their £/TB prices.

I still think these are PMR not SMR, interested to see more results/tests from others who have got the drive. Is it possible some batches contain different innards? friar_chris has posted that he has a EMFZ drive. Does anyone else have EMAZ maybe?
Edited by: "kowalski" 9th Jan
kowalski09/01/2020 11:18

This deal was expired and I posted it as a new deal around midnight. It’s p …This deal was expired and I posted it as a new deal around midnight. It’s part of Amazon’s promo today with loads of the WD drives 8TB-14TB Elements/My Books on offer. My deal got merged with this, but all the comments seem to have been lost. Bit annoying as I linked to all those drives pages on Amazon and worked out their £/TB prices.I still think these are PMR not SMR, interested to see more results/tests from others who have got the drive. Is it possible some batches contain different innards? friar_chris has posted that he has a EMFZ drive. Does anyone else have EMAZ maybe?


Hi, just to let you know, this hasn't been expired since 2nd as a limited time deal of most of the WDs product and still on/live. Some gone oos and some still live here.
So, your new post could've been taken off for being duplicate. Also, it's not been merged yet (may be after it would be).
ok no probs. I got a message from system saying my deal had been merged, maybe it was just deleted.
Here is the reddit thread for the EMFZ drive

reddit.com/r/D…ed/

Basic speed tests here
reddit.com/r/D…ts/

Conclusion, a Ultrastar HC530, but slowed down to 5400rpm. The 512MB cache is still fully intact.

NOT SMR!
here is what I wrote on the other thread that was deleted (luckily saved it)
Prices will probably change at midnight tonight if the promo is only a one-day thing on Amazon
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WD 14TB Elements - £200.99 (£14.36/TB) this deal
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WD 14TB My Book - £216.99 (£15.50/TB) not quite as good value
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WD 10TB Elements - £160.99 (£16.10/TB)
B07G364YHX

WD 10TB My Book - £163.99 (£16.40/TB)
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WD 8TB Elements - £124.99 (£15.62/TB)
B07FNK6QMT

WD 8TB My Book - £131.99 (£16.50/TB)
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WD 6TB Elements - £97.99 (£16.33/TB)
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WD 16TB My Book Duo - £332.99 (£20.81/TB)
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WD 24TB My Book Duo - £424.99 (£17.71/TB) 2x12TB Reds inside
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Edited by: "kowalski" 9th Jan
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