WD Red 4TB for NAS £119.98 at Amazon
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WD Red 4TB for NAS £119.98 at Amazon

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Found 11th Aug 2014
Cheapest price ever for this NAS optimised drive, seems its been this way for a while but I hadnt noticed the drop, thought I'd share in case others were similar.

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Original Poster

For anyone with access, I got a Flubit offer of £117.58 based on this Amazon price.

good price - less than £30 per TB

likely due to the release of the 6tb BEAST RED

I thought the 5TB was supposed to come out 4Q13.... still no sign of it.

YolkiePolkie

I thought the 5TB was supposed to come out 4Q13.... still no sign of it.


here

AddictWeb

For anyone with access, I got a Flubit offer of £117.58 based on this … For anyone with access, I got a Flubit offer of £117.58 based on this Amazon price.


What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would put in my (homemade) desktop ? I have an HP Windows Home Server into which I've just put normal drives. Voted hot by the way !

Original Poster

deals_on_wheels

What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would … What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would put in my (homemade) desktop ? I have an HP Windows Home Server into which I've just put normal drives. Voted hot by the way !




Red are designed with 24/7 up-time in mind so in theory should last longer in that environment. More info:

youtube.com/wat…7k4

AddictWeb

Red are designed with 24/7 up-time in mind so in theory should last … Red are designed with 24/7 up-time in mind so in theory should last longer in that environment. More info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_HYE5ML7k4



Thanks for this - interesting. I wonder if these are engineering differences or the stroke of a marketing pen !?

deals_on_wheels

What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would … What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would put in my (homemade) desktop ? I have an HP Windows Home Server into which I've just put normal drives. Voted hot by the way !



the attention on write or read optimisation, caching, power idling etc is different between them all. for example, the WD ranges are physically identical but the firmware is different to optimise them for a particular purpose. the purple (could be blue, i can't remember) has firmware designed to just get data onto the disc as quickly as possible with the minimum of error checking. this is for cctv and dvrs. you wouldn't want those anywhere near a nas or pc.

in a home setup with infrequent use, the desktop drives will probably be ok in a nas, but more intensive nas operations aren't best suited to the desktop drives that park frequently

THIS POST IS A BLATANT COPY OF MY EARLIER DEAL hotukdeals.com/dea…312 AND SHOULD BE VOTED COLD OR EXPIRED AS MEMBERS SEE FIT.

Hehe. Just an in joke for HUKD members.

What I actually wanted to say is that when I did flubit on this about three weeks ago, the offer they sent me was for a completely different product. Never had that happen before, just keep your eyes open if you're spending a ton on what you think is a very specific make and model of drive.

118 now

I've had 3 out of 6 of these fail within a 4 month period. Switched to the Hitachi 4TB nas drives and nothing but perfect for 6 months so far... Worth the extra tenner IMO

Just my 2cents

deals_on_wheels

What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would … What makes a drive NAS optimised - is it different from a drive I would put in my (homemade) desktop ? I have an HP Windows Home Server into which I've just put normal drives. Voted hot by the way !



I've yet to see anyone with conclusive proof that NAS optimisation actually lengthens the drive life, I suspect most of the price premium is the cost of extending the warranty, rather than any hardware/software change.

For the record my 24x7 NAS uses a pair of the 3TB REDs and a pair of 3TB Desktop Seagates, often berated on here, all have worked fine for the last couple of years or so.

mike

Think I read somewhere that standard drives take too long when trying to recover a defective sector and raid controllers will time out and flag the whole drive as defective. NAS drives don't spend as long recovering sectors so it doesn't time out. There is a situation where 1 drive can have a bad sector and the controller can leave you with 2 dead drives. Always best to stick with Reds/NAS drives

Hot. Now I have the perfect excuse to buy a NAS. I really do hate HUKD sometimes! Hehe

Banned

Well deal should be spammed not heated since its a duplicate.

Aria PC have it slightly cheaper with 3 year warranty, they also accept Amazon Payments.

Aria

tapi

the attention on write or read optimisation, caching, power idling etc is … the attention on write or read optimisation, caching, power idling etc is different between them all. for example, the WD ranges are physically identical but the firmware is different to optimise them for a particular purpose. the purple (could be blue, i can't remember) has firmware designed to just get data onto the disc as quickly as possible with the minimum of error checking. this is for cctv and dvrs. you wouldn't want those anywhere near a nas or pc. in a home setup with infrequent use, the desktop drives will probably be ok in a nas, but more intensive nas operations aren't best suited to the desktop drives that park frequently



Interesting, didnt know that. Where did you read about this?

I haven't kept up lately since I last looked, is the IDLE3 timer still set "wrong" on these ones? IIRC, they were fine on the 3tb models but the on the 4tb, people were reporting the load cycle counts were very high, for new drives!

http://community.wd.com/t5/Desktop-Mobile-Drives/New-WD30EFRX-Red-Drive-Idle3-Timer-Set-to-8-Seconds-High-LCC-in/m-p/648821/highlight/true#M15454

I'm patiently looking for a new NAS/set of drives.

whole lot of data to lose....

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Aria PC have it slightly cheaper with 3 year warranty, they also accept … Aria PC have it slightly cheaper with 3 year warranty, they also accept Amazon Payments.Aria



not cheaper £8 delivery..
mrdude

whole lot of data to lose....



why does everyone on a big HDD write this? anyone with this amount of data and doesnt have a deathwish, will be backing up in some way or another.

mrdude

whole lot of data to lose....


Unless you've got multiple drives in a raid system that back-up all of the data, which is what most people would be doing with these in their servers. If not then any important data should always be backed up at least once anyway, if not more.

Pound for pound, the 3TB Red drives are cheaper per gigabyte than the 4TB versions. Not a bad deal though. I'm still holding off as prices are coming down slowly and I don't have an urgent need to build my server just yet.

Plus the fact it's in a NAS you'd hope that it's running at least RAID1 lol

If it's not backed up twice it's not backed up at all folks!

lanceuppercut

I haven't kept up lately since I last looked, is the IDLE3 timer still … I haven't kept up lately since I last looked, is the IDLE3 timer still set "wrong" on these ones? IIRC, they were fine on the 3tb models but the on the 4tb, people were reporting the load cycle counts were very high, for new drives!http://community.wd.com/t5/Desktop-Mobile-Drives/New-WD30EFRX-Red-Drive-Idle3-Timer-Set-to-8-Seconds-High-LCC-in/m-p/648821/highlight/true#M15454I'm patiently looking for a new NAS/set of drives.



It's probably best to check anyway - nobody knows for sure - and if it does not work at least you can easily send it back now rather than discover months later that something is not right...

I store my media collection on my Micro Server with two 2tb drives, and havent backed them up.

I dont see the point in spending money on a 4TB backup when everything I have is easily replaced. Everything important, ie pictures and documents, sits in my dropbox account.

mrdude

whole lot of data to lose....



yes, i'd much prefer 250 16gb USB sticks.... oO

Haste

I store my media collection on my Micro Server with two 2tb drives, and … I store my media collection on my Micro Server with two 2tb drives, and havent backed them up.I dont see the point in spending money on a 4TB backup when everything I have is easily replaced. Everything important, ie pictures and documents, sits in my dropbox account.



Google Drive seems to be a lot cheaper than most other cloud storage solutions. $1.99 per month for 100gb as opposed to £7.99 per month (or £79 per year) for dropbox.

google.com/set…age

lukehunter69

If it's not backed up twice it's not backed up at all folks!



... and if your backups are in your house then it's not backed up either. A fire will destroy everything. Make sure you've got backups that are offsite. May sound like overkill but you'll be thankful if anything happens.

4leafed

... and if your backups are in your house then it's not backed up either. … ... and if your backups are in your house then it's not backed up either. A fire will destroy everything. Make sure you've got backups that are offsite. May sound like overkill but you'll be thankful if anything happens.


If my house was on fire I'd grab all of my data storage devices and run out with them. Then, if I had time, I'd go back for the wife and kids (as these can be replaced easily anyway).

My PC holds the 'Master' set of data.
This is backed up to LiveDrive in the cloud (500GB £26/Year)
There is a second set of the data on an external HDD
There is a third set of data on my HP MicroServer (4x3TB in 2x3TB RAID 1 drives)
The MP3s are also backed up on Google Music too

You can't be too safe. I use AlwaySync to ensure data is kept up to date from the Master data and the external HDD/NAS shares
Edited by: "matdey" 12th Aug 2014

matdey

My PC holds the 'Master' set of data.This is backed up to LiveDrive in … My PC holds the 'Master' set of data.This is backed up to LiveDrive in the cloud (500GB £26/Year)There is a second set of the data on an external HDDThere is a third set of data on my HP MicroServer (4x3TB in 2x3TB RAID 1 drives)The MP3s are also backed up on Google Music tooYou can't be too safe. I use AlwaySync to ensure data is kept up to date from the Master data and the external HDD/NAS shares


That sounds like a great back-up system that you've implemented there. I'm trying to find a hole in it now. OK, here we go. What happens if there's a nuclear holocaust that destroys most of the world? Goodbye data! Ideally I'd like to see a company offering a data backup service on a space station to cover this eventuality. As you say, you can't be too safe!!

I have bare several large HD's that sit in a dock (one at a time on a rotating basis), I backup everything to the disk from various family machines at regular intervals, some daily. Then swap backup disks out monthly into a dry box in the shed at the end of the garden for fire security. Use 'create synchronicity' very good ap

Can someone tell me what the difference will be if I were to RAID1: 2 of these WD Red Nas drives compared to 2 WD Blue drives or even Black. Maybe even a speed difference if I were to be cheeky enough.

Confused about this new "NAS" terminology, no idea what it means or is. Hoping to store videos/music/pictures etc onto them.

These are back down to £119.70 sold by amazon or £118.72 sold by M.T fulfilled by amazon
I paid £122 yesterday but thankfully they refunded the difference

amazon.co.uk/gp/…c=1
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