Wera 031575 Kraftform Comfort VDE Screwdriver Set (7 Pieces) £14.95 (+£4.49 Non-prime) @ Amazon
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Wera 031575 Kraftform Comfort VDE Screwdriver Set (7 Pieces) £14.95 (+£4.49 Non-prime) @ Amazon

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Posted 28th May
Quality set for Screwdrivers for Prime users.

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o 7-piece Kraftform comfort vide screwdriver set
o Safe working up to 1,000 V
o Hex shoulder

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Kraft form Comfort VDE screwdriver set - 7pce Set including voltage tester.
With 2 component Kraft form handle which uniquely fits the hands contours during use for improved grip and comfort.
Individually tested for dielectric strength under a 10,000V load, to guarantee safe working at 1,000V.
Drop tested at extreme temperatures to ensure insulation won't fail in tough jobsite conditions.
The logo color on the item may vary
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working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriver

these are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH IT

casual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy
Although I would always recommend using the correct screwdriver to match the screw head, you have more chance of tightening a pozi with a Phillips than tightening a Phillips with a pozi.
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳


Some info here
Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳
Edited by: "AndrewFarrar" 28th May
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Great deal - remember these are Phillips not Pozi drive
Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳
Edited by: "AndrewFarrar" 28th May
smallstools28/05/2020 19:10

Great deal - remember these are Phillips not Pozi drive


Can you explain what this means? Sorry I'm not very clued up on these things..
Chookity28/05/2020 19:15

Can you explain what this means? Sorry I'm not very clued up on these …Can you explain what this means? Sorry I'm not very clued up on these things..


One is simply a cross head and the other is similar but with smaller blades between the x if that makes sense
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳


Some info here
Got both these and the draper set. I'd normally recommend the draper for the price difference. This is a good deal for the weras though and down to the same price point
Although I would always recommend using the correct screwdriver to match the screw head, you have more chance of tightening a pozi with a Phillips than tightening a Phillips with a pozi.
Got some wera drill bits and they are quality.
Built my own decking the other week and using the same no3 bit for most of it, showing no signs of damage at all
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳


Both are very common in Europe. For example, ikea only uses PZ screws.

I guess the Phillips is more versatile as you can use it on both a PH or a PZ (whereas the extra wings of the PZ tip prevent a solid grip on PH heads) but really you want both. Or at least a PH2 and PZ2.

If your friend is rounding heads a lot, chances are they're using a PH screwdriver on a PZ screw, as they will tend to cam out a lot.
Edited by: "asac" 28th May
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳



Generally speaking, for woodworking you want Pozidrive. For engineering (e.g. vehicle maintenance) you want Philips. There are exceptions, though - best to have both.
working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriver

these are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH IT

casual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy
It's a lot more expensive, but if you want the best, this set is actually pretty good value: amazon.co.uk/Wer…NDW that's got flat, Philips, Pozi and Torx and it's got the top-end lasercut tips to help prevent cam-out. You'll likely never need to buy another screwdriver.
Has been at this price for nearly a year, how is it a deal??
Warrhog28/05/2020 21:15

Has been at this price for nearly a year, how is it a deal??


Because they're cheap and they're Wera.

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Edited by: "No8" 28th May
Thanks for posting. We have added this to the Highlights section.
Who even uses those clear plastic flathead mains testers? There's a million safer ways to determine if a circuit's live than by exposing yourself to it...
EllEzDee29/05/2020 04:36

Who even uses those clear plastic flathead mains testers? There's a …Who even uses those clear plastic flathead mains testers? There's a million safer ways to determine if a circuit's live than by exposing yourself to it...


Those with a shocking death wish!
Can be got from Toolstation store slightly more expensive but still cheaper if you don't have prime
toolstation.com/wer…815
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳


Probably something to do with the cheap screws you get these days or so *my* friend says.
neilwoz28/05/2020 19:44

Although I would always recommend using the correct screwdriver to match …Although I would always recommend using the correct screwdriver to match the screw head, you have more chance of tightening a pozi with a Phillips than tightening a Phillips with a pozi.


Yes I actually buy ph2 bits as they fit both , not a perfect fit but pz2 won’t fit philips at all
Those hand grips look blister-tastic 😬
manowarbruno28/05/2020 20:07

working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need …working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriverthese are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH ITcasual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy


Working on and around live circuits is sometimes necessary (for professional only) and most of the equipment I have encountered have PZ i.e. Schneider or PILZ etc. so how much 'working in industrial settings' have you really done?
Chookity28/05/2020 19:15

Can you explain what this means? Sorry I'm not very clued up on these …Can you explain what this means? Sorry I'm not very clued up on these things..


Nothing to see here, move along please.
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳



Broadly speeking pozi more common in Europe, phillips in US.
I've had this set for years, great quality for the price and cope with the majority of household needs.

amazon.co.uk/Wer…WPK
I know it might not be everyone’s cup of tea but Halfords set of drivers is actually very good quality . Break the head or any damage take it back no receipt no problem straight swap any time .
manowarbruno28/05/2020 20:07

working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need …working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriverthese are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH ITcasual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy



I’m an industrial electrical engineer and I’ve noted that quite a lot of Siemens control gear use pozidrive for terminating wires.

Whilst I completely agree about the Doubting if the circuit is live or not don’t touch it comment. I personally like to use insulated screwdrivers in a electrical panel as just because the circuit I’ve isolated is dead, other circuits won’t be and I would rather have a insulated tool incase I accidentally drop it etc. Obviously where possible I would isolate the entire panel.

Anyhow these drivers are Phillips so much more versatile, although I do like to use pozi drivers on pozi screws where possible.
I've said it before when this set crops up and i will say it again:

THIS IS NOT A SUITABLE SET OF SCREWDRIVERS FOR MOST PEOPLE.

That is not to say they are not decent or they wont do. but these are a VDE set for working with electric. Now the VDE refers to the handle being able to work on live circuits up to 1000V. That isn't an issue.

The problem is that this set is mostly be flats with a couple of Phillips they are for working on electric and things like pattress boxes. They are not a good all rounder set.

If you wanted a set of screwdrivers then get them, make sure there is pozi in there too (Wera do a set that has a couple of each) More than likely you would be better off with a decent multi-bit screwdriver.

If you got this set you would more than likely end up trying to fudge using the wrong driver for the wrong head because you don't have the right set for your use.

TBH for most people who are likely to look at this deal, this is not a suitable set of screwdrivers.

This is a much better Wera set for the Home user.

Use the right tool for the right job.
Edited by: "Jetpac" 29th May
No830/05/2020 00:35

Actually, these are probably better!!


then you lose the phillips and the laser tip tooling be be able to use reasonably expensive screwdrivers as demolition chisels for a 25% price increase.

i dont think i would agree, although i can see where you are coming from with the way people misuse tools!
No830/05/2020 00:35

Actually, these are probably better!!



I have them at work. Bought bigger slotted separately and it is always in my pocket - smaller slots I am almost not using at all.
PZ I am not using at all. Bought green set with laser tips - size 1 or 2 always in my pocket others do not know where I put them...
Bought another yellow set for home - again using only slot for beating ice in fridge - others just sleeping in drawer.

Chisel drivers are great, BUT when I beat inner races of front wishbone bearings for double decker out, I damaged the end a little (a little, I am still keeping it in my pocket) - not intended for ultra heavy chiseling, but can save a day.

Conclusion, 3 sets + 1 big slot separate = 65 pounds using 3 screwdriwers constantly... My suggestion - Do not buy set, just choose some screwdriwers which you need. Sometimes they are on sale in homebase (I bought big chiseldriver slot there - amaizing). Great drivers, but halfords set for 5 or 7 is good enough for home use.
Edited by: "Jino" 30th May
Jino30/05/2020 07:09

I have them at work. Bought bigger slotted separately and it is always in …I have them at work. Bought bigger slotted separately and it is always in my pocket - smaller slots I am almost not using at all. PZ I am not using at all. Bought green set with laser tips - size 1 or 2 always in my pocket others do not know where I put them... Bought another yellow set for home - again using only slot for beating ice in fridge - others just sleeping in drawer. Chisel drivers are great, BUT when I beat inner races of front wishbone bearings for double decker out, I damaged the end a little (a little, I am still keeping it in my pocket) - not intended for ultra heavy chiseling, but can save a day. Conclusion, 3 sets + 1 big slot separate = 65 pounds using 3 screwdriwers constantly... My suggestion - Do not buy set, just choose some screwdriwers which you need. Sometimes they are on sale in homebase (I bought big chiseldriver slot there - amaizing). Great drivers, but halfords set for 5 or 7 is good enough for home use.


You have a big pocket
Jetpac30/05/2020 01:01

i dont think i would agree, although i can see where you are coming from …i dont think i would agree, although i can see where you are coming from with the way people misuse tools!


Which was where I was coming from - kind of a joke...
AndrewFarrar28/05/2020 19:14

Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who …Which is more common, Philips or Pozi drive. Asking for a friend who always rounds screw heads? 😳


Pozi, Philips is old s
steveieboy129/05/2020 07:10

Those with a shocking death wish!


I use one, they still sell them everywhere... if they were that bad they would not... fastest way to check
BustyB29330/05/2020 10:49

I use one, they still sell them everywhere... if they were that bad they …I use one, they still sell them everywhere... if they were that bad they would not... fastest way to check


Google it and find out why they should be banned...
steveieboy130/05/2020 11:34

Google it and find out why they should be banned...


Three wires out of a light switch, you tell me a faster way to test live luv x
Edited by: "BustyB293" 30th May
BustyB29330/05/2020 14:03

Three wires out of a light switch, you tell me a faster way to test live …Three wires out of a light switch, you tell me a faster way to test live luv x


With neon screwdrivers you also get false negative readings even false positives. Therefore a volt stick, voltage tester or DVM would be better choice and just as quick.
Isn't the idea of insulated screwdrivers that if something is live or becomes live unexpected then it still offers a additional level of protection?
Also Pz screws are used throughout components on nearly all modern day fuse boards/distribution panels. Anyone working on electrics should always use insulated tools and a precaution.


manowarbruno28/05/2020 20:07

working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need …working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriverthese are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH ITcasual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy

manowarbruno28/05/2020 20:07

working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need …working in industrial settings, I've never ever in my life had the need for an insulated PZ screwdriverthese are insulated screwdrivers meant to be used by electricians, and to be honest I doubt anyone outside of some specialized electricians have the need for these things. If you have any doubts that the circuit might be live, just DON'T TOUCH ITcasual DIYers shouldn't even be touching electrical circuits, and having insulated screwdrivers might inspire a false sense of securityy


I'm an electrician and quite regularly need an insulated PZ screwdriver. Taking the main switch cover off a Memshield 3 three phase DB requires undoing a PZ screw, dangerously close to the main neutral, to perform an earth loop impedance test is just one.

Not sure what your job role is in 'industrial settings', but it's probably in the office or pushing a button on a machine all day. Either way, best not to comment on something you know nothing about
Edited by: "Stradders" 1st Jun
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