Whole Earth Crunchy Organic Peanut Butter 340g - £2 Prime (+£4.49 Non Prime) @ Amazon
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Whole Earth Crunchy Organic Peanut Butter 340g - £2 Prime (+£4.49 Non Prime) @ Amazon

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Posted 1st Aug
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  • No Added Sugar
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*palm oil
KL8801/08/2020 23:28

*palm oil


Organic and sustainable, why giving palm oil bad rep
Ordered thanx
£1 at heron, for those lucky enough to be near one (hawthorn rd B44)
ZazZYo01/08/2020 23:44

Organic and sustainable, why giving palm oil bad rep


Unneeded ingredient (clearly) and bad for you. Fairly simple
KL8802/08/2020 08:33

Unneeded ingredient (clearly) and bad for you. Fairly simple



If it was so 'unneeded', why would they use it?

In what respect is it 'bad for you'?
mr_bargain02/08/2020 08:35

If it was so 'unneeded', why would they use it?In what respect is it 'bad …If it was so 'unneeded', why would they use it?In what respect is it 'bad for you'?


How is it needed when all the other 100% peanut butter exist? Obviously it is clearly not needed, as stated.
Why is the organic version cheaper than the non organic? Isn't it usually the other way around?
May contain nuts, apparently.

Can I just check whether the whole country has been turned into a gigantic lunatic asylum?
GDB222202/08/2020 08:56

May contain nuts, apparently. Can I just check whether the whole country …May contain nuts, apparently. Can I just check whether the whole country has been turned into a gigantic lunatic asylum?


Peanuts aren't nuts.
If people read up about the catastrophe caused by palm oil plantations and the loss of habitat you will understand why it should be banned .
Asura02/08/2020 09:04

Peanuts aren't nuts.



In fact, lots of nuts are not nuts. Almonds, pistachios, cashew nuts, and pine nuts are all not nuts.

It’s a bit hard to understand how any nuts get into something where the only ingredients are peanuts, palm oil, and salt? It’s almost as if firms add the warning, just in case.
GDB222202/08/2020 11:25

In fact, lots of nuts are not nuts. Almonds, pistachios, cashew nuts, and …In fact, lots of nuts are not nuts. Almonds, pistachios, cashew nuts, and pine nuts are all not nuts. It’s a bit hard to understand how any nuts get into something where the only ingredients are peanuts, palm oil, and salt? It’s almost as if firms add the warning, just in case.


They probably buy their peanuts from a supply that does handle nuts or the factory in which they produce the peanut butter is also used to produce products containing nuts. Cross contamination, and the smallest trace can set off allergies, I doubt they want to be responsible for someone's death.

coconut is also not a nut, makes you wonder who named them all.
Nuts-oh! Hazelnuts..
plodging02/08/2020 10:24

If people read up about the catastrophe caused by palm oil plantations and …If people read up about the catastrophe caused by palm oil plantations and the loss of habitat you will understand why it should be banned .


Whole earth use 100% sustainably sourced palm oil. The normal yeah is awful for the environment and habitats, but theirs is providing jobs, and sourced and produced in a safe and sustainable manner .
TheKrakken02/08/2020 12:50

Whole earth use 100% sustainably sourced palm oil. The normal yeah is …Whole earth use 100% sustainably sourced palm oil. The normal yeah is awful for the environment and habitats, but theirs is providing jobs, and sourced and produced in a safe and sustainable manner .


Sustainable is simply a con . The RSPO ( governing body ) took 14 years to ban its members from destroying rain forest and natural habitat ,which they are still doing . Farms sign up to this but carry on as before, 75% of the 2015 Indonesian forest fires were on RSPO members land . Hence the members of the sustainable palm oil industry are directly responsible for devastating huge areas creating a wildlife crisis.
Don’t get conned by a fake logo that means nothing .
plodging02/08/2020 13:35

Sustainable is simply a con . The RSPO ( governing body ) took 14 years to …Sustainable is simply a con . The RSPO ( governing body ) took 14 years to ban its members from destroying rain forest and natural habitat ,which they are still doing . Farms sign up to this but carry on as before, 75% of the 2015 Indonesian forest fires were on RSPO members land . Hence the members of the sustainable palm oil industry are directly responsible for devastating huge areas creating a wildlife crisis. Don’t get conned by a fake logo that means nothing .


Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that are actually more stranglehold monopolies that dictate prices to the farmers, kind of like the British dairies do...
Personally I am far more concerned about the negative health aspects of palm fat, but the fact is we should not be using this... They use this crap to clean out industrial chemicals from storage tanks, that tells you just how cheap and nasty it is... Don't remember ever hearing olive oil being used for that purpose...

The only reason there is palm fat in this peanut butter is because it is cheaper than peanut oil, so any peanut oil extracted during grinding of the nuts can be bottled and sold separately, then they just create the correct texture by adding palm fat. It is the reason why the branded crap doesn't have the oil layer floating on top when you open it, because palm fat is not actually an oil at room temperature so it can't separate from the ground nuts if it is not heated, the same affect it has on your arteries....
Edited by: "Lexeus" 2nd Aug
Lexeus02/08/2020 14:43

Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that …Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that are actually more stranglehold monopolies that dictate prices to the farmers, kind of like the British dairies do...Personally I am far more concerned about the negative health aspects of palm fat, but the fact is we should not be using this... They use this crap to clean out industrial chemicals from storage tanks, that tells you just how cheap and nasty it is... Don't remember ever hearing olive oil being used for that purpose...The only reason there is palm fat in this peanut butter is because it is cheaper than peanut oil, so any peanut oil extracted during grinding of the nuts can be bottled and sold separately, then they just create the correct texture by adding palm fat. It is the reason why the branded crap doesn't have the oil layer floating on top when you open it, because palm fat is not actually an oil at room temperature so it can't separate from the ground nuts if it is not heated, the same affect it has on your arteries....


Nestle are terrible yes.

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There's very little palm oil used in this peanut butter (probably 4%)

It's not used for the reason you claim - it's used to homogenise the product.

So there's no oil separation.

For it to work as you describe it would need to be half palm oil I imagine.

Coconut oil is also rich in saturated fat - but it's good for you - it's full of median chain fatty acids.

That may well be the case for palm oil too.

Saturated fat isn't bad for you - especially MCTs - from e.g. coconut oil, cocoa butter, or milk/butter/cheese.

It doesn't clog your arteries, that's a myth.

Personally I don't like the end result - I find it dry.

I much prefer pure peanut butter - previously Meridian, but now I prefer the Fuel stuff.

You need to mix that stuff, and can drain off some oil to taste. I much prefer it.

But you do want organic really.

I've seen Meridian organic peanut butter in Asda.

I don't think palm oil is unhealthy - and industrial use doesn't indicate it's bad for you.

Olive oil is over hyped. It's actually not that healthy if you cook with it - as it denatures quickly - it doesn't have that high a smoke point.

The best oil for cooking I found after researching is Macadamia nut oil. It has a very high smoke point.

Avocado oil is good too.

Peanuts do differ from other "nuts" in that they aren't seeds like almonds etc. They're legumes.

So quite different, and not really a nut in any sense.

Actual nuts (whether botanically nuts or seeds) are healthier. Such as almonds and cashews.

As for may contain nuts, Whole Earth make a mixed nut butter - that contains brazil nuts etc. Likely made in the same factory.

And yes, their supply chain and processes probably handles a range of nuts and seeds and can't guarantee no cross contamination.

Biona and Median are worth checking out for organic nut butters. The Protein Works does an organic peanut butter (edit, actually not sure if that's organic, perhaps not) for a similar price too per 100g - it's a 1kg tub. Not tried that though.

Those are all pure.

Edit:
en.wikipedia.org/wik…oil

For industrial use it's highly processed - and used as a ingredient for example to create soap. So that isn't valid.

Regarding health however, it is rich in Palmitic acid:
en.wikipedia.org/wik…cid

According to the World Health Organization, evidence is "convincing" that consumption of palmitic acid increases the risk of developing cardiovascular disease,[18]

But I've seen similar stated about coconut oil etc. Often it's the saturated fat combined with high sugar that's the issue, not the fat by itself. So a traditional Inuit diet vs junk food like donuts for example.

See:
healthline.com/nut…oil
Edited by: "Shinoke" 2nd Aug
Nutty price! Ordered
95% peanut, I can live with that. Whatever palm oil they use is negligible.
Lexeus02/08/2020 14:43

Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that …Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that are actually more stranglehold monopolies that dictate prices to the farmers, kind of like the British dairies do...Personally I am far more concerned about the negative health aspects of palm fat, but the fact is we should not be using this... They use this crap to clean out industrial chemicals from storage tanks, that tells you just how cheap and nasty it is... Don't remember ever hearing olive oil being used for that purpose...The only reason there is palm fat in this peanut butter is because it is cheaper than peanut oil, so any peanut oil extracted during grinding of the nuts can be bottled and sold separately, then they just create the correct texture by adding palm fat. It is the reason why the branded crap doesn't have the oil layer floating on top when you open it, because palm fat is not actually an oil at room temperature so it can't separate from the ground nuts if it is not heated, the same affect it has on your arteries....


Interesting! I’ve always wondered I can make peanut butter at home with only pinch of salt. Why do they need to add palm oil.

Not buying on this reason.
ZazZYo02/08/2020 23:37

Interesting! I’ve always wondered I can make peanut butter at home with o …Interesting! I’ve always wondered I can make peanut butter at home with only pinch of salt. Why do they need to add palm oil.Not buying on this reason.


If you buy it at cheap prices like £5 /Kg and it's 100% peanuts then it is actually cheaper to buy it ready made than the cost of buying the peanuts to make it. I just bought a Kg of smooth 100% peanuts for £4 but I couldnt find crunchy that cheap!
Lexeus02/08/2020 14:43

Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that …Yes! Nestle are the worst, they have these protection organisations that are actually more stranglehold monopolies that dictate prices to the farmers, kind of like the British dairies do...Personally I am far more concerned about the negative health aspects of palm fat, but the fact is we should not be using this... They use this crap to clean out industrial chemicals from storage tanks, that tells you just how cheap and nasty it is... Don't remember ever hearing olive oil being used for that purpose...The only reason there is palm fat in this peanut butter is because it is cheaper than peanut oil, so any peanut oil extracted during grinding of the nuts can be bottled and sold separately, then they just create the correct texture by adding palm fat. It is the reason why the branded crap doesn't have the oil layer floating on top when you open it, because palm fat is not actually an oil at room temperature so it can't separate from the ground nuts if it is not heated, the same affect it has on your arteries....


Well said .. watch the documentaries on the destruction of the orang Utan habitat ,all to plant fields of palm oil plants , babies clinging to starving mothers on top of the last tree in the area . All to benefit huge companies filling our food with cheap garbage to boost profits .
It needs banned .
Lexeus02/08/2020 23:49

If you buy it at cheap prices like £5 /Kg and it's 100% peanuts then it is …If you buy it at cheap prices like £5 /Kg and it's 100% peanuts then it is actually cheaper to buy it ready made than the cost of buying the peanuts to make it. I just bought a Kg of smooth 100% peanuts for £4 but I couldnt find crunchy that cheap!


Aldi do crunchy in 280g jars .. works out at about £4.50 a kg and it’s 100% peanuts .
plodging03/08/2020 20:20

Aldi do crunchy in 280g jars .. works out at about £4.50 a kg and it’s 10 …Aldi do crunchy in 280g jars .. works out at about £4.50 a kg and it’s 100% peanuts .


I only have a Lidl near me and it has palm oil in it unfortunately....
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