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No more updates for this phone or any Wileyfox, Cyanogen is no more which is the os used by Wileyfox. I can see Wileyfox going under shortly

forbes.com/sit…lf/

Edited by: "cf15" 26th Dec 2016

Got one few weeks back better to return ???

csf

No more updates for this phone or any Wileyfox, Cyanogen is no more which … No more updates for this phone or any Wileyfox, Cyanogen is no more which is the os used by Wileyfox. I can see Wileyfox going under shortlyhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorris/2016/12/25/cyanogen-wanted-to-kill-googles-android-but-instead-killed-itself/#25a13d551bae


Don't be silly.
Wileyfox haven't got anything to do with cyanogen apart from using the os, nothing to stop them just switching out to regular android.

migavupe

Don't be silly. Wileyfox haven't got anything to do with cyanogen apart … Don't be silly. Wileyfox haven't got anything to do with cyanogen apart from using the os, nothing to stop them just switching out to regular android.



​Somehow i doubt wileyfox will bother, given how most manufacturers drag their feet on updating

crackshotkv

​Somehow i doubt wileyfox will bother, given how most manufacturers drag … ​Somehow i doubt wileyfox will bother, given how most manufacturers drag their feet on updating


So they just shut up shop, make everyone unemployed and give up on a product that appears to be doing ok?

Wouldn't bother this O/S is dead.

They paid Cyanogen to use their Os, now they are gone I doubt they have the ability to switch to someone else roms that easily, it will cost them

migavupe

Don't be silly. Wileyfox haven't got anything to do with cyanogen apart … Don't be silly. Wileyfox haven't got anything to do with cyanogen apart from using the os, nothing to stop them just switching out to regular android.


csf

They paid Cyanogen to use their Os, now they are gone I doubt they have … They paid Cyanogen to use their Os, now they are gone I doubt they have the ability to switch to someone else roms that easily, it will cost them



​You would think they would have to make the switch to Android otherwise they will go to the wall.

bodolf

Got one few weeks back better to return ???



​ASAP !

migavupe

So they just shut up shop, make everyone unemployed and give up on a … So they just shut up shop, make everyone unemployed and give up on a product that appears to be doing ok?



​More likely they'll release a new model and stop updating the current one.

The whole point of Cyanogen was monthly security updates etc. I bet they will have to go with a new stock rom, but it will cost them money with peeps returning devices etc. This will either make or break them, more the later as pretty much all their current customers will have no updates from now on. A big shame tbh as besides Google nexus, pixel and blackberry, these guys has android phones with pretty much the latest security updates due to Cyanogen

furbars

​You would think they would have to make the switch to Android otherwise t … ​You would think they would have to make the switch to Android otherwise they will go to the wall.



Edited by: "cf15" 26th Dec 2016

csf

They paid Cyanogen to use their Os, now they are gone I doubt they have … They paid Cyanogen to use their Os, now they are gone I doubt they have the ability to switch to someone else roms that easily, it will cost them


Do companies pay to use android? I thought it was all about google getting data from having the widest used os, much like Microsoft and oem builders.
Edited by: "migavupe" 26th Dec 2016

Basically no licensing costs for Android. However if you can't afford to maintain your kit (updates, patches, security patches, build updates) via a in-house support team like the likes of Samsung, LG, Motorola etc have, you had the option to use Cyanogen to manage it for you for a cost or the 3rd manufacturer in China to release update.

A big sore point of Android is Google can't push out updates to all devices, only devices they make or support. So you have to rely on the manufacturer to push these out.

Not all manufacturers push out timely updates and conveniently abandon a device when the replacement model gets released.

One guy on the moto g4 thread mentioned how his device got the July android patches pushed the other week, we are in Dec, and December patches were released by Google on the 5th!.

People need to vote with their money

migavupe

Do companies pay to use android? I thought it was all about google … Do companies pay to use android? I thought it was all about google getting data from having the widest used os, much like Microsoft and oem builders.




Edited by: "cf15" 26th Dec 2016

csf

Basically no licensing costs for Android. However if you can't afford to … Basically no licensing costs for Android. However if you can't afford to maintain your kit (updates, patches, security patches, build updates) via a in-house support team like the likes of Samsung, LG, Motorola etc have, you had the option to use Cyanogen to manage it for you for a cost or the 3rd manufacturer in China to release update.A big sore point of Android is Google can't push out updates to all devices, only devices they make or support. So you have to rely on the manufacturer to push these out.Not all manufacturers push out timely updates and conveniently abandon a device when the replacement model gets released. One guy on the moto g4 thread mentioned how his device got the July android patches pushed the other week, we are in Dec, and December patches were released by Google on the 5th!.People need to vote with their money


Yeah its not a safe bet to buy a current model but I'm sure they can move forward with a stock android rom going forward.
Can't be too big a task if the hundreds of no mark Chinese firms can do it.

This is worth a read:

trustedreviews.com/new…ued

Wileyfox have committed to a Nougat update (although not specifically the original Swift yet).

I for one think CyanogenOS separating from Cyanogenmod (or LineageOS as it will now be known) is a good thing. Once they shafted Oneplus and jumped into bed with Microsoft, CyanogenOS shot themselves in the foot.

Now hopefully LineageOS will return to what Cyanogenmod was originally: free, open source, customisable Android without the rubbish overlayed by manufacturers and even Google themselves.

Clue yourselves in over here:

reddit.com/r/c…od/

I think the rep had to come out with something. In order to change roms, you will have to refresh, a tall order for even a techie like me. Their current builds are pointing at Cyanogen servers. Good on them if they pull it off. But where is the money gonna come from, their profit margins are tiny :

Wileyfox is a tiny phone manufacturer based in Britain that focuses on solid budget and mid-range designs, with low profit margins partially enabled thanks to a partnership with Cyanogen Inc. for the phones' Android software. That partnership doesn't seem to be long for this world, after it was announced that Cyanogen is more or less shutting down its full Android development team. That leaves Wileyfox customers (among many others) in something of a lurch. According to a few Reddit posts, the company is actively looking into alternatives.

androidpolice.com/201…at/

Edited by: "cf15" 26th Dec 2016
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