Posted 18th Aug
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If you don't mind win 7, these people offer a cheap setup, Dell optiplex comouter 4Gb RAM , 160g hard drive, plus screen, keyboard, mouse You could always upgrade to win 10 yourself, ssd and low profile grsphics., more ram, etc. But as a back up basic spare, should be fine as it is.
What are you expecting for 50 quid - a lifetime warrenty
Core 2 Duo + SSD is fine today, £70 for a complete desktop PC for the kids or grandparents and saving the planet too - vs the uneducated who think you need a quad-core i5 just to browse Facebook and read the Daily Mail online...
You’ve spent the entire thread moaning about this PC. I’m going to take a leap here and assume you’re not a fan and this isn’t for you...
It’s £50, it’ll work fine and it’ll need to be maintained with updates, possibly a new OS and an SSD - but would be fine for many people, especially those who like to tinker a bit.
Sure, they could have done, but once they've factored in the time that takes they wouldn't be selling them for £50.
I'd rather spend the time myself than the money.
They are what they are. People who don't know how to upgrade don't need to buy them.
If got a Windows 7 refurb sticker on the machine this can be used to upgrade this window 10, I have upgraded 3 of these for someone with 128 ssd and win 10, it was for travel agents and they are now so rapid, you would believe the difference in speed.
Out of interest Bavy, how much did that cost them in the end, after parts, labour, delivery etc?
You can pick up small ssd drives for £20 to £30 maybe less if you hunt around. And a very easy install.
What are you expecting for 50 quid - a lifetime warrenty
Charged them £70, 128 cost £20, Windows 10 upgrade free used there old Windows 7 refurbished stickers job done, there happy, they use there travel agent software and Microsoft Office 2010, without issues, I have also done the optiplex dell 3020 i3 2nd gen with ssd before and no difference in boot time or in general use compared to these. Yeah maybe intensive tasks the 3020 will beat it but generally these core duo machines are fast dell seem to to have the machine optimised really well.
Im not sure that I would like the idea of buying a holiday from a company who clearly doesnt invest in their I.T. infrastructure, happy to buy hardware from 2006, and use software from 2010 whose support ends in october 2020. If thats there front end, whats the back end like? Would you trust such a company to ensure their data was properly protected, and systems resisliant against attack?
Id have expected the supplier to have ensured they were Win10. most of the people buying these wont know how to upgrade to win 10, and wont know about the impending demise of Win7. Its irresponsible putting these things out in the wild.
Thanks for that.
For 50 quid......
Sure, they could have done, but once they've factored in the time that takes they wouldn't be selling them for £50.
I'd rather spend the time myself than the money.
They are what they are. People who don't know how to upgrade don't need to buy them.
Core 2 Duo + SSD is fine today, £70 for a complete desktop PC for the kids or grandparents and saving the planet too - vs the uneducated who think you need a quad-core i5 just to browse Facebook and read the Daily Mail online...
You asking lot for £50
Exactly. My pc has a similar spec and handles everything I throw at it (video conversion, torrenting etc). 99% of people who don't bands really dont need much more than this. Similar could be said for high end mobiles that people barely use it for anything more than social media.
Can you still upgrade for free? How/where do you do?
Complety safe, there loaded with win 10, and kaspersky security, most things done via secure https sites, no problem, so this for living must done about 200 pcs this year already, mix off 3020 optiplex, 790s,fijistsu refurbished 5th gen i5, can't beat ex business machines
Saving the planet, lol. More like saving a business from their weee responsibilities. Nowadays you can recycle all the parts to get some rare earth metals back from them, to use new tech to make more energy effiecient devices. Now thats saving the planet.
Zzz zzz
Yes you can, but you will need to to clean install, download windows media creator tool which will give a a bootble USB drive, install them either get a old Windows 7 key from old laptop or pc or buy a key loads for about 4 pounds on ebay. Then just update drivers via device manager.
Well whatever you’re doing, it’s being reused and if you’ve used a well-maintained Core 2 machine recently you’ll know it’s actually fine for basic stuff. Of course you should really spend a bit more and get an 2nd-4th gen i5 (which seem to fall into the £100 bracket) but not everyone wants to.
Apparently the Windows 7 key is accepted but if not a Windows 10 key on eBay is £2.
I take it you don't use ATMs or then NHS then? There's lots of large institutions that don't invest in their IT "because it still works".
Kaspersky, lol. Most things done via secure https. Lets just forget ransomware attacks, trojans, data exfiltration, and malicious emails, and drive by attacks, because kaspersky and https protects against it all
You’ve spent the entire thread moaning about this PC. I’m going to take a leap here and assume you’re not a fan and this isn’t for you...
It’s £50, it’ll work fine and it’ll need to be maintained with updates, possibly a new OS and an SSD - but would be fine for many people, especially those who like to tinker a bit.
Brilliant example, the NHS, who in 2017 were hit by the Wanna Cry ransomware, because they were running Windows 7, had smb1 enabled, and hadnt patched their systems. All costing the taxpayer £92 million in cleanup costs. and 20,000 appointments to be cancelled. Lots of investment there. Oh and ATM, using security through obscurity. ATM's that can be popped with access and a pendrive, because nothing is actually secure on them. They are only secure because they are so heavily protected by other mitigations. They do just work, as long as the security systems that have been setup around them also works because they wont spend money upgrading them.
Not a fan of people peddling an obsolete os, and businesses who dont invest in i.t. and we the public end up paying for it in either money or their confidential data.,
Does this as living like said done about 200 pcs off various machines from core 2 duo, to 6th gen i3 never had problem, being doing it for 10 years and also Microsoft MTA certified do this day day out, like someone said earlier, a lot off company's and Evan NHS still using old dell optiplex 3rd gen i3 machines, because that still work
Exactly, if it still works and does what you need then there is no need to have the latest spec and powerful cpu you will never get near using any of it’s capabilities.
Some people can’t seem to grasp that simple point.
Just install Linux Mint on it
You’d have to have a look but most of these are SFF so you can only fit low-profile cards and have proprietary PSUs so no GPU PCIe power. I doubt you’ll find one with a decent GPU as they would usually cost the same as the entire refurb PC. If you’re looking for low-cost desktop gaming, look at a Ryzen 5 APU, that integrated Vega GPU is surprisingly potent.
I just need one of these cheapo Dell bundles with an i5 and GFX card slot.
I've recently done the windows 10 upgrade on a few Dell/Lenovo Windows 7 machines. These machines had valid/correct Windows 7 licenses installed, and choosing to upgrade in place worked perfectly - no need to do a clean install if it's a machine you own and now the license is legit.
If you are doing it 200 machines of various provenances that you don't know the history of it - I'd be going for the clean install and use the key on the case too