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Found 6th Feb 2015
We’re excited to announce that we are expanding our Windows Developer Program for IoT by delivering a version of Windows 10 that supports Raspberry Pi 2. This release of Windows 10 will be free for the Maker community through the Windows Developer Program for IoT.
Windows 10 is the first step to an era of more personal computing. This vision framed our work on Windows 10, where we are moving Windows to a world that is more mobile, natural and grounded in trust. With the Windows for IoT developer program we're bringing our leading development tools, services and ecosystem to the Raspberry Pi community!
We see the Maker community as an amazing source of innovation for smart, connected devices that represent the very foundation for the next wave of computing, and we’re excited to be a part of this community.
We are excited about our partnership with the Raspberry Pi Foundation and delivering a version of Windows 10 that supports Raspberry Pi 2, and we will be sharing more details about our Windows 10 plans for IoT in the coming months.

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This is news not a hot uk deal lol

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TheNexusPanda

This is news not a hot uk deal lol



I haven't posted it in the deals section? This is freebies......LOL

Niceee my Raspberry Pi 2 just came today :D!!!

It is still a freebie though. Ordered my Raspberry Pi 2 on Monday, and arrived on Tuesday. Shame RS haven't shipped its case yet though!

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oUkTuRkEyIII

I haven't posted it in the deals section? This is freebies......LOL



Ah didn't see it was in freebies, my bad

keith0kane

Niceee my Raspberry Pi 2 just came today :D!!!



What OS are you running on it

Are people expecting a desktop?

MrHot

Are people expecting a desktop?


Hell yeah I expect windows 10 running full speed with Xbox support.

Windows 10 is definitely NOT coming to the Raspberry Pi 2. What I mean is that you won't be running Windows 10 on it as a desktop version. Rather it allows you to create Windows 10 apps and port them across to the Pi platform, this is very naughty marketing. It's all explained here >

theinquirer.net/inq…iot


"Nevertheless, Upton indicated that the Raspberry Pi 2 won't run the full edition of Windows 10.
"It runs. But this is Windows 10 primarily targeted for Internet of Things [IoT] implementations," he said, explaining later that the aim is to offer a device that people can use to build IoT devices which have screens attached and can participate in the broad range of Windows 10 API support.
"The intention is you can take Windows 10 applications that you can run on a Surface, a PC, a Windows Mobile phone and now you'll be able to run it on a Raspberry Pi as well," he said."

What you can do though is run x86 apps on the Pi platform using Exagear desktop >

eltechs.com/pro…op/


Edited by: "fishmaster" 6th Feb 2015

My Pi2 arrived today, but does not work - will not boot of SD!!! Went back to my original Pi for now till get a replacement.

GRiDlock

My Pi2 arrived today, but does not work - will not boot of SD!!! Went … My Pi2 arrived today, but does not work - will not boot of SD!!! Went back to my original Pi for now till get a replacement.



Sad times

Have a look at Exagear desktop I mentioned above that might cheer you up, although it costs $30, but just pretend you didn't see that. Anyway that's how I think Windows 10 is going to work for the Pi, and that will be free.
Edited by: "fishmaster" 6th Feb 2015

TheNexusPanda

CommentAh didn't see it was in freebies, my bad



But something that's free by default or becomes free permanently like google earth pro should go to a section called "News" or something. "Freebies" should be for only those deals that normally cost but become free for a limited period of time or after completing something or signing up to something etc., like those App of the Week on iOS.

Banned

So, it's Windows Phone really...

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badzed

But something that's free by default or becomes free permanently like … But something that's free by default or becomes free permanently like google earth pro should go to a section called "News" or something. "Freebies" should be for only those deals that normally cost but become free for a limited period of time or after completing something or signing up to something etc., like those App of the Week on iOS.

does it really matter that much to you? Sigh.

badzed

But something that's free by default or becomes free permanently like … But something that's free by default or becomes free permanently like google earth pro should go to a section called "News" or something. "Freebies" should be for only those deals that normally cost but become free for a limited period of time or after completing something or signing up to something etc., like those App of the Week on iOS.



I notice that you previously posted Angry Birds Epic to freebies, which has ALWAYS been free! Pot and kettle spring to mind

I've got to say it's quite confusing what Windows 10 for the Internet of Things means. With the Pi being ARM and no RT version of Windows 10, this means nothing built elsewhere will run out of the box for the Pi 2. So you've either got to build it yourself from source or run some sort of x86 emulator (which costs almost was much as the Pi 2!), neither of which are easy solutions.

I suspect we're going to see a bunch of frustrated Pi 2 users expecting a full W10 desktop that can run x86 binaries out of the box for free...

Windows 10 not still in Beta stages?!

fishmaster

Have a look at Exagear desktop I mentioned above that might cheer you … Have a look at Exagear desktop I mentioned above that might cheer you up, although it costs $30.



Why would anyone pay £30 for what is basically Ubuntu Linux ?

c0nd0r54

Windows 10 not still in Beta stages?!



Absolutely it is.

c0nd0r54

Windows 10 not still in Beta stages?!



I've had a beta version on my desktop PC since October last year ! The Beta expires in April & the complete new W10 should follow a couple of months later
Edited by: "corred1964" 7th Feb 2015

corred1964

I've had a beta version on my desktop PC since October last year ! The … I've had a beta version on my desktop PC since October last year ! The Beta expires in April & the complete new W10 should follow a couple of months later



There's no chance of that, if you've used build 9926 which is the latest build, well the latest I've used from a week or two ago, it's still a complete mess of a product, currently it's dire and needs massive improvement.

corred1964

Why would anyone pay £30 for what is basically Ubuntu Linux ?



"Running Intel x86 applications on ARM-based Mini PCs" might give you a clue.

I've been playing around with a sub £100, 7 inch linqs tablet at work which is running Windows 8. Expected it to run very slowly but I was really impressed with the speed of it compared to some cheap android tablets I have tried a couple of years ago.... let's hope they can get windows 10 (or a slim down of it) running smoothly on the pi2 :-)

mikeydalby

I've been playing around with a sub £100, 7 inch linqs tablet at work … I've been playing around with a sub £100, 7 inch linqs tablet at work which is running Windows 8. Expected it to run very slowly but I was really impressed with the speed of it compared to some cheap android tablets I have tried a couple of years ago.... let's hope they can get windows 10 (or a slim down of it) running smoothly on the pi2 :-)



I don't think there will be anything resembling the proper Windows OS available for the Pi......it really is just a development tool.

I agree about the Linx 7 but the Linx 10 is even better ......still prefer Android as a tablet OS though

fishmaster

"Running Intel x86 applications on ARM-based Mini PCs" might give you a … "Running Intel x86 applications on ARM-based Mini PCs" might give you a clue.



Sort of goes against the principle of Linux being a free OS though

Can we install Ubuntu on Pi 2?

fishmaster

There's no chance of that, if you've used build 9926 which is the latest … There's no chance of that, if you've used build 9926 which is the latest build, well the latest I've used from a week or two ago, it's still a complete mess of a product, currently it's dire and needs massive improvement.



Did you get the latest update on Wednesday......I've had no issues in my use since then

corred1964

Did you get the latest update on Wednesday......I've had no issues in my … Did you get the latest update on Wednesday......I've had no issues in my use since then



It's not stability that was the issue for me, it was the design choices, the new icons are absolutely terrible. Have two control panels is ridiculous and they need to sort that out, and the stupid amount of options you get from each section in settings. The fonts were a mess in 9926. I'll get build 10009 seems like they've added more of those horrible icons. Windows 10 is not Microsoft thinking and leading the way, it's experimenting with stuff and seeing if the public like it in each build, they don't seem to have much idea of how to design the OS. They don't have a clear idea of what they want to do which is never a good sign.

corred1964

Yeshttp://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/


From that link:

"Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10."

"WINDOWS 10

For the last six months we’ve been working closely with Microsoft to bring the forthcoming Windows 10 to Raspberry Pi 2. Microsoft will have much more to share over the coming months. The Raspberry Pi 2-compatible version of Windows 10 will be available free of charge to makers.

Visit WindowsOnDevices.com today to join the Windows Developer Program for IoT and receive updates as they become available."
Edited by: "MaximusRo" 7th Feb 2015

MaximusRo

From that link:"Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full … From that link:"Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.""WINDOWS 10For the last six months we’ve been working closely with Microsoft to bring the forthcoming Windows 10 to Raspberry Pi 2. Microsoft will have much more to share over the coming months. The Raspberry Pi 2-compatible version of Windows 10 will be available free of charge to makers.Visit WindowsOnDevices.com today to join the Windows Developer Program for IoT and receive updates as they become available."



It will never be W10 as most know it now.....it will be a heavily stripped down version...somewhere below what you get now with windows phone

rkl

I've got to say it's quite confusing what Windows 10 for the Internet of … I've got to say it's quite confusing what Windows 10 for the Internet of Things means. With the Pi being ARM and no RT version of Windows 10, this means nothing built elsewhere will run out of the box for the Pi 2. So you've either got to build it yourself from source or run some sort of x86 emulator (which costs almost was much as the Pi 2!), neither of which are easy solutions.I suspect we're going to see a bunch of frustrated Pi 2 users expecting a full W10 desktop that can run x86 binaries out of the box for free...



... same with linux isnt it ? .. if you hate MS that much just admit it

MS gives you free visual studio with a nifty free emulator inside for ARM handsets (and pi when its finalised) .. were in to the Microsoft world of x86 +ARM "universal apps" now so if the developer chooses to allow it to run it on the ARM pi he can do that just like he can for ARM Windows phone. Bear in mind the pi's target audience, its not tablet surfing couch potatoes or BF4 gamers ... its learners and makers and bearing in mind the fabulous free development tools Microsoft gives they will be rubbing their hands with glee :-)

My critique is (and its only a soft critique bearing in mind the pi's cost) is that the pi's storage write speed is probably going to limit the smoothness of write intensive aplications and OS whether that be ubuntu or Win10

Well done Microsoft !

Eh. Windows 10 chews away clock cycles (okay, partially due to the odd service leak) though I struggle to see how it'd efficiently run on a Pi without having a major overhaul. Then there's the install size that hits about a dozen GBs.

I guess it's good news since they'll have to clamp down on it's efficiency; though I hope there'll be some sort of custom install so that components can be deselected to cut down the install base. Windows has tons of services and programs that won't really be used in most Pi environments - and for that matter, most end-users don't fire up a good proportion of them to begin with.

GRiDlock

My Pi2 arrived today, but does not work - will not boot of SD!!! Went … My Pi2 arrived today, but does not work - will not boot of SD!!! Went back to my original Pi for now till get a replacement.




first is your power supply the right one with the right power and what image did you flash

I have started to believe that Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi 2 was mentioned by Eben Upton just to increase the sales of his new development board despite the fact he already knew it would be no Windows available for it.

There are worries about the seriousness of Microsoft regarding keeping alive an OS for ARM based boards.
Nokia has already dropped Windows and the last ARM based tablet, Lumia 2520 which runs Windows RT, is no longer in production (see: http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-pulls-the-plug-on-its-last-windows-rt-tablet/).
It is quite possible that Microsoft intends to stop developing an OS for ARMs and concentrate only on Intel processors.

What is the purpose of advertising Windows 10 on Raspberry Pi 2 just to come a bit latter and trash the users interested in running this OS, making them idiots, closing topics, declaring with the voice of a top moderator on Raspberry Pi forum: "I, personally, won't be using it (Windows), I use Linux" and suggesting that, somehow against the will of the Foundation, people from Raspberry Pi were obliged to talk about Windows 10, which might run on their newest development board, despite the fact they do not want and like this OS (see: "MS are the people behind this venture, with very minor help from the Foundation")?!

by jamesh (top moderator on http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:56 pm
"Since none of you idiots have taken ANY notice of the warnings I gave, the bans are going to be handed out soon. This thread is going to be locked, because you complete ****wits are too dumb to be polite and actually do what have been politely asked of you.

I'm going to say this once.

MS are the people behind this venture, with very minor help from the Foundation. It will not affect the Foundation emphasis on Linux in education at all. All it does is add an extra OS to the Raspberry, that some people may what to use I, personally, won't be using it, I use Linux, because it does the job."

MS likely doesn’t are about Raspberry Pi at all but wants to encourage the software development community around it to write cross-platform apps using WinRT because they will also run on Windows Phone and as touch screen apps on tablets and convertibles and even desktop PCs running Windows 8 or later.
They are also giving away the full version of Visual Studio to support WinRT development although you can also use it for other development goals.
MS are desperate to have more presence in mobile markets (phones/tablets) and they need more developers onside hence all the giveaways such as Windows for Raspberry Pi, Visual Studio and all the free versions of Windows for phones and small format tablets.

oUkTuRkEyIII

I haven't posted it in the deals section? This is freebies......LOL



I thought you were a helper? do you change yourself to suspended status or something?

All I'm saying is wait to see what they actually deliver... MS does not give away anything for free...

Adrian7

All I'm saying is wait to see what they actually deliver... MS does not … All I'm saying is wait to see what they actually deliver... MS does not give away anything for free...


They give away loads of things for free (read my post above for examples) but do they do have an agenda . As long as their agenda doesn't get in the way of your own I see no problem.

corred1964

It will never be W10 as most know it now.....it will be a heavily … It will never be W10 as most know it now.....it will be a heavily stripped down version...somewhere below what you get now with windows phone


The windows "most know now" changes all the time. Moot point.
Don't think anyone expected to buy a £25 Pi and have a full blown desktop experience...
Pi runs stripped down version of everything (linux included)
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