Windows 7 Professional OEM 64 or 32bit £29.99 - (plus should be eligible for the free windows 10 upgrade later this year) - aclass-products eBay.co.uk
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Windows 7 Professional OEM 64 or 32bit £29.99 - (plus should be eligible for the free windows 10 upgrade later this year) - aclass-products eBay.co.uk

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Found 25th Jan 2015
Seems a good price although it is OEM. I see no reason why this wouldn't be elegible for the free Windows 10 upgrade later this year (see here https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-questions-microsoft-didnt-answer-about-108943103294.html)

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Hmmm they're selling Dell branded DVD with "Comes with genuine and unregistered product key (COA is from a decommissioned computer and may show signs of wear like new)."

Presumably these are ex corporate machines that came with W7 installed and came preactivated (not using the key on the sticker)

From a strict Microsoft perspective you cannot transfer OEM licences for Win7, the licence should live and die with the PC the sticker/software was put onto.

It's probably a cheap way to get a disc and OEM licence if you can live with breaking Microsoft's terms and conditions with their EULA

Edited by: "spannerzone" 25th Jan 2015

i bought windows vista off this company about a year ago and it all works no problems with the product key all happy.

As long as windows update works then I do not much care for t's & c's !
Surely better than a pirate copy ! or is it ?

Oh and no "you have a non genuine copy" messages !

urbanbushwacker

i bought windows vista off this company about a year ago and it all works … i bought windows vista off this company about a year ago and it all works no problems with the product key all happy.



Um, you bought... Vista?
... in 2014?
.........
I........
I don't.........
........ just.......
WHY?!

Bought one from them last year no problem what so ever went on a new pc build of my sons

I bought a similar disc off fleabay a few weeks ago, upgraded a PC that previously was on XP, installed a treat and no warnings about the licence, so I don't see how it breaks MS conditions. I don't know if it will upgrade to Win 10, but I'm not bothered - if I decide to go to 10 I will wait a few years until it's fixed, then buy another cheap disc like this.

does windows 7 qualify for a free windows 10 upgrade? i thought it was just windows 8

sgtbarton

As long as windows update works then I do not much care for t's & c's ! … As long as windows update works then I do not much care for t's & c's ! Surely better than a pirate copy ! or is it ?



If you're quite happy to break the terms and conditions why pay anything at all? I can assure you, any pirated copy is as genuine as this in the eyes of Microsft.

No it includes Windows 7 as well.

Alfresco

does windows 7 qualify for a free windows 10 upgrade? i thought it was … does windows 7 qualify for a free windows 10 upgrade? i thought it was just windows 8


Original Poster

Alfresco

does windows 7 qualify for a free windows 10 upgrade? i thought it was … does windows 7 qualify for a free windows 10 upgrade? i thought it was just windows 8



I read about 5 articles, one said just windows 8.1 and the other 4 (including yahoo news and BBC news said windows 7 and windows 8.1 - so I am reasonably sure it is W7 too - but if anyone has any links confirming either way that would be great).

cannibalwombat

Um, you bought... Vista?... in 2014? .........I........I … Um, you bought... Vista?... in 2014? .........I........I don't................. just.......WHY?!


im not buying you breakfast!

Windows 7 too watch youtube....

I bought a win 7 licence from ebay in April last year. Could have been fom the same seller.

Online activation may fail (mine did) and so you will have to go through the telephone activation
but it will work. heat given.

Original Poster

pob222

If you're quite happy to break the terms and conditions why pay anything … If you're quite happy to break the terms and conditions why pay anything at all? I can assure you, any pirated copy is as genuine as this in the eyes of Microsft.



I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and there is always a possibility that they have included some code which compromises your system and security, on top of this if you use windows update sooner or later you will get the old 'your software is not genuine' message and you may be prevented from further upgrades. With this one the software has not been hacked so your security is not compromised. I have never heard of someone having updates blocked on an OEM like this or of microsoft claiming it is not genuine software - so while both may be technically breaking the MS terms this is a much safer option. And of course if it does go wrong you can claim from the seller (or if they have gone bust then have a go at eBay who would probably have to pay out if they allowed illegal software to be sold on their site).

Personally I see this as much better than pirated software and I plan to buy a couple of copies

OEM...
Edited by: "JC1997" 25th Jan 2015

muise

I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and … I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and there is always a possibility that they have included some code which compromises your system and security, on top of this if you use windows update sooner or later you will get the old 'your software is not genuine' message and you may be prevented from further upgrades. With this one the software has not been hacked so your security is not compromised. I have never heard of someone having updates blocked on an OEM like this or of microsoft claiming it is not genuine software - so while both may be technically breaking the MS terms this is a much safer option. And of course if it does go wrong you can claim from the seller (or if they have gone bust then have a go at eBay who would probably have to pay out if they allowed illegal software to be sold on their site).Personally I see this as much better than pirated software and I plan to buy a couple of copies



I used a pirated, pre-activated copy of Windows 7 Ultimate inc SP1 in my last build for 3-4 years. Happily installed all 'important' windows updates. Never once had the old "naughty naughty, not genuine" message pop up or any other problems.

Now I use a genuine copy of Windows 8.1. Strongly considering putting the eye patch back on.

muise

I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and … I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and there is always a possibility that they have included some code which compromises your system and security, on top of this if you use windows update sooner or later you will get the old 'your software is not genuine' message and you may be prevented from further upgrades. With this one the software has not been hacked so your security is not compromised. I have never heard of someone having updates blocked on an OEM like this or of microsoft claiming it is not genuine software - so while both may be technically breaking the MS terms this is a much safer option. And of course if it does go wrong you can claim from the seller (or if they have gone bust then have a go at eBay who would probably have to pay out if they allowed illegal software to be sold on their site).Personally I see this as much better than pirated software and I plan to buy a couple of copies



Except that's not true.. You download a genuine ISO from Microsoft (hash check it to verify that Microsoft haven't inserted any malicious code into their own software if you want), use a genuine OEM key (what you're paying for here), then activate it using MS own kms server. As genuine and as 'safe' as buying this disc.

I would read the negative feedback for the seller before purchasing

Bought a couple off these guys last year, worked just fine.

£30 isn't a great price for these on eBay. You'll see them for a fiver cheaper quite often.

muise

I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and … I take the point but I would disagree. A pirated copy has been hacked and there is always a possibility that they have included some code which compromises your system and security, on top of this if you use windows update sooner or later you will get the old 'your software is not genuine' message and you may be prevented from further upgrades. With this one the software has not been hacked so your security is not compromised. I have never heard of someone having updates blocked on an OEM like this or of microsoft claiming it is not genuine software - so while both may be technically breaking the MS terms this is a much safer option. And of course if it does go wrong you can claim from the seller (or if they have gone bust then have a go at eBay who would probably have to pay out if they allowed illegal software to be sold on their site).Personally I see this as much better than pirated software and I plan to buy a couple of copies



So let me get this right, it's perfectly alright to do this until there is a problem but then if it goes wrong at a later date you will bring up the licensing issue and blame the company for selling it to you? This comment is almost as ludicrous as the poster who said he purchased vista last year!

You may waste your money like me

I didn't realise u can advertise selling illegal products on this site. u can not transfer licences from PC to PC the coa cannot be removed and must die with the hardware.

A friend bought this and it comes with a card that tells you that you may have to ring microsoft to activate it and to tell them that you are only using it on 1 PC. I know it is an automated phone call but still...

I can't believe this company has managed to sell 1000's of these without any legal problems.

I sold OEM's on fleabay a few years back, and Micro$haft gave me a cease and desist order.
They work fine, but they are illegal, well, copyright infringement, which some people will have you believe is the same thing.

Oh and the seller has no VAT number but it looks like they do enough turnover...

Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for a limited time then you will have to pay for it. By which time you will not be able to revert to your excellent windows 7 etc which you have already paid for.

Got caught out by this with a 'free' Virgin Broadband update to 100mb. When renewal came round they wanted full price for update.

Just another of todays marketing tricks.

My guess anyway.

criky18

Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for … Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for a limited time then you will have to pay for it. By which time you will not be able to revert to your excellent windows 7 etc which you have already paid for.



You have a limited time to *claim* your free copy. The same as you have limited time frames to claim cheap upgrade prices when previous upgrades have come up. The copy of Windows itself is not time limited to one year.

cannibalwombat

I used a pirated, pre-activated copy of Windows 7 Ultimate inc SP1 in my … I used a pirated, pre-activated copy of Windows 7 Ultimate inc SP1 in my last build for 3-4 years. Happily installed all 'important' windows updates. Never once had the old "naughty naughty, not genuine" message pop up or any other problems.Now I use a genuine copy of Windows 8.1. Strongly considering putting the eye patch back on.



Using a "pirated" copy of anything just leaves your PC possibly open to malware, trojans, loggers, bots or whatever the hacker wants on your machine. Ask yourself would a hacker be satisfied just stopping there, or who they get more satisfaction of completely controlling your machine and mining your personal data without you even knowing about it. Not worth the risk IMHO, but each to their own.....

xmal

criky18

Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for … Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for a limited time then you will have to pay for it. By which time you will not be able to revert to your excellent windows 7 etc which you have already paid for. Got caught out by this with a 'free' Virgin Broadband update to 100mb. When renewal came round they wanted full price for update.Just another of todays marketing tricks.My guess anyway.


just clone your Hard Drive, if you have any issues with W10 just overwrite it with the created image

criky18

Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for … Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for a limited time then you will have to pay for it. By which time you will not be able to revert to your excellent windows 7 etc which you have already paid for. Got caught out by this with a 'free' Virgin Broadband update to 100mb. When renewal came round they wanted full price for update.Just another of todays marketing tricks.My guess anyway.



No.. You have fundamentally misunderstood the situation.

criky18

Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for … Not sure about this 'free' win 10 update. Yes they will give it free for a limited time then you will have to pay for it. By which time you will not be able to revert to your excellent windows 7 etc which you have already paid for. Got caught out by this with a 'free' Virgin Broadband update to 100mb. When renewal came round they wanted full price for update.Just another of todays marketing tricks.My guess anyway.




No, if you upgrade within the first year, it will continue to be free and you will receive any and all future updates for Windows 10.


"This is so much more ... than a free one-time upgrade," said Terry Myerson, the Microsoft executive who heads the operating systems group. "Once a device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will be keeping it current for the supported lifetime of the device."


Reported everywhere if you have a quick search.

This is handy because I'm replacing my computer, but keeping the copy of Windows for the new one (it's retail).
And I appear to have discarded the Dell Vista 32 OEM discs that came with this machine. Would much rather have 7 x64. They're even the right brand.

No. it's a free upgrade for the first year W10 is out. there's no fee after, but if you want a fresh W10 it will cost.

hotukdealsplz

I didn't realise u can advertise selling illegal products on this site. u … I didn't realise u can advertise selling illegal products on this site. u can not transfer licences from PC to PC the coa cannot be removed and must die with the hardware.



So if you upgrade or replace a faulty motherboard and/or CPU in a PC the windows license which was linked to that hardware is invalid ?

xmal

Using a "pirated" copy of anything just leaves your PC possibly open to … Using a "pirated" copy of anything just leaves your PC possibly open to malware, trojans, loggers, bots or whatever the hacker wants on your machine. Ask yourself would a hacker be satisfied just stopping there, or who they get more satisfaction of completely controlling your machine and mining your personal data without you even knowing about it. Not worth the risk IMHO, but each to their own.....xmal



That's a whole lot of sensational nonsense right there. You don't understand the options available in pirating windows, please read my earlier reply.

Like others have pointed out, this is illegal. The licence is non-transferable and expires along with the machine. You may as well save yourself 30 quid and download a copy from the net if you are happy to have a dodgy copy on your PC.

clairetigeress

So if you upgrade or replace a faulty motherboard and/or CPU in a PC the … So if you upgrade or replace a faulty motherboard and/or CPU in a PC the windows license which was linked to that hardware is invalid ?



Technically yes but Microsoft are usually really helpful on the phone in cases like this.

sgtbarton

As long as windows update works then I do not much care for t's & c's ! … As long as windows update works then I do not much care for t's & c's ! Surely better than a pirate copy ! or is it ?

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program … The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a license is exhausted on its first sale, said the European Court of Justice (ECJ). This applies to downloaded software as well as that bought on CD or DVD. This ruling sets a precedent for trading of used software licenses throughout the European Union and could potentially impact ebooks and computer games as well.


Maybe Microsoft does not see this copy as "genuine", but then Microsoft is violating EU law and judgements if they don't! Read here:

On the other hand if the UK leaves the EU this ruling will probably not apply anymore.

There are subtleties and details to this. For example, it is not allowed to split a volume license and sell them as individual copies.

Overall Microsoft is an absolutely appalling and shady business when it comes to used software! They spread fear that you cannot legally use a used license. There was even an injunction in Germany forbidding Microsoft to post this on their website, as it was incorrect. So Microsoft started to host/register their german site by Microsoft US trying to dodge german laws and make enforcement more difficult! WTF? I think they should be fined 1bn$ for this!
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