Xbox One Controller (Blue / Red) £26.57 @ Microsoft Italy (Via Nokeys)
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Xbox One Controller (Blue / Red) £26.57 @ Microsoft Italy (Via Nokeys)

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Found 17th JanEdited by:"reindeer333"
1) Purchase 7 x 5 euro giftcards via nokeys:
nokeys.com/xbo…tml
*IMPORTANT* - Apply code spielekauf at checkout.

2) Follow link via "get deal" and add the controller to your basket.

3) Checkout using your credit. (If you experience problems doing this you may have to enter an Italian address for the billing address, BUT not the postal address and / or set up a Italian Microsoft account rather than using an UK account before applying the credit)
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I assume you're referring to the blue and red ones for €35? Bit misleading to use the xbox design studio picture, suggesting this is for a custom controller.
a-j11 m ago

Entering false billing details.


Ah my bad. Not to my understanding. You are still using the correct postal information which makes you traceable. I also have a Canadian invalid address to buy digital content from Canada stores. And I am sure I am not the only one, anyone who has a US PSN, Overseas Nintendo account, etc is on the same boat. Let me also add this, there is no financial gain in the whole thing. You are paying the actual price for an item which is priced at what you are exactly paying for. This cannot be counted as fraud.
Edited by: "mixmixi" 17th Jan
Cba
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I assume you're referring to the blue and red ones for €35? Bit misleading to use the xbox design studio picture, suggesting this is for a custom controller.
Are pictured Xbox Design Lab controllers for £26.57
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Edited by: "VFX9" 17th Jan
Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically fraud?
a-j4 m ago

Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically …Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically fraud?


What is fraud mate? A reindeer roaming around freely in January?
mixmixi1 m ago

What is fraud mate? A reindeer roaming around freely in January?


Entering false billing details.
a-j11 m ago

Entering false billing details.


Ah my bad. Not to my understanding. You are still using the correct postal information which makes you traceable. I also have a Canadian invalid address to buy digital content from Canada stores. And I am sure I am not the only one, anyone who has a US PSN, Overseas Nintendo account, etc is on the same boat. Let me also add this, there is no financial gain in the whole thing. You are paying the actual price for an item which is priced at what you are exactly paying for. This cannot be counted as fraud.
Edited by: "mixmixi" 17th Jan
mudstuff12 m ago

I assume you're referring to the blue and red ones for €35? Bit misleading …I assume you're referring to the blue and red ones for €35? Bit misleading to use the xbox design studio picture, suggesting this is for a custom controller.


Will change the title.
Checking out with the code the euros come to $34.50. that works out about £30 . Am i doing something wrong. Also anyone paying with a UK credit or debit card for the euros would incur fees unless they used something like a Halifax credit card.
cjx3 m ago

Checking out with the code the euros come to $34.50. that works out about …Checking out with the code the euros come to $34.50. that works out about £30 . Am i doing something wrong. Also anyone paying with a UK credit or debit card for the euros would incur fees unless they used something like a Halifax credit card.


You can change the currency to GBP at the top of the page to avoid charges. Have you applied the code spielekauf ?
Ordered a red controller, cheers!
mixmixi1 h, 29 m ago

What is fraud mate? A reindeer roaming around freely in January?


That is just a late reindeer. In July though the got is taking the mick.
Other options available for what works out as 39.43 USD for 40 euro worth of credit. That translates to £28.53 at current exchange rate using fee free card which is a good price for some of the controllers
Nice deal. Had no problems checking out with my real details. Just use google chrome to translate the pages on the fly
Cba
Works as expected.
mixmixi1 h, 42 m ago

Ah my bad. Not to my understanding. You are still using the correct postal …Ah my bad. Not to my understanding. You are still using the correct postal information which makes you traceable. I also have a Canadian invalid address to buy digital content from Canada stores. And I am sure I am not the only one, anyone who has a US PSN, Overseas Nintendo account, etc is on the same boat. Let me also add this, there is no financial gain in the whole thing. You are paying the actual price for an item which is priced at what you are exactly paying for. This cannot be counted as fraud.


You're not buying it at the price the seller intends to sell it to you at, though; you're claiming to be a resident of another country where, for instance, the seller may have reduced prices to increase their market presence. You've definitely misled them for financial gain. I know it's common practice, I doubt it's something you'd gen in trouble for, and I practically support doing this kind of thing to large organisations, I'm just interested in where it stands.
Are these the latest version? Would buy at this price
reindeer33338 m ago

You can change the currency to GBP at the top of the page to avoid …You can change the currency to GBP at the top of the page to avoid charges. Have you applied the code spielekauf ?


Thanks, hadnt done that. Makes sense now. Cheers for the heads up.
Controller work wonderful.
a-j19 m ago

You're not buying it at the price the seller intends to sell it to you at, …You're not buying it at the price the seller intends to sell it to you at, though; you're claiming to be a resident of another country where, for instance, the seller may have reduced prices to increase their market presence. You've definitely misled them for financial gain. I know it's common practice, I doubt it's something you'd gen in trouble for, and I practically support doing this kind of thing to large organisations, I'm just interested in where it stands.


The gain is over differences in exchange rate and the use of gift cards as payment method. Obviously if MS does the same promotion in the UK they will price the item at £35 instead 35 EU. Buying gift cards for less than their face value is not fraud either. In terms of buying from other countries, certainly if MS is concerned about it they can put restrictions just like what Amazon does and specify that delivery is exclusive to Italy only. Since they are not doing it, it means they are open to international sales. If they are offering it, why someone would one want to refuse it?
a-j2 h, 13 m ago

Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically …Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically fraud?


Hahaha don't be stupid

Buying items from other countries is perfectly legal. It's in Europe after all
Not worth the hastle, nearly got it shipped to the San Siro.
£28.57 it was for me with code.
Mrman12339 m ago

Are these the latest version? Would buy at this price


The blue and red ones referred to in this deal are the Bluetooth ones
mixmixi38 m ago

The gain is over differences in exchange rate and the use of gift cards as …The gain is over differences in exchange rate and the use of gift cards as payment method. Obviously if MS does the same promotion in the UK they will price the item at £35 instead 35 EU. Buying gift cards for less than their face value is not fraud either. In terms of buying from other countries, certainly if MS is concerned about it they can put restrictions just like what Amazon does and specify that delivery is exclusive to Italy only. Since they are not doing it, it means they are open to international sales. If they are offering it, why someone would one want to refuse it?


Perhaps, in this case, the price is equivalent, but companies do price things differently in different regions for various reasons. I was wondering more in general terms. I'm also not interested in whether the company minds but what the legal standing of entering a false billing address is, though the fact you can't use a UK billing address suggests they might not be as happy about it as you suggest.

Anyway, this isn't the place for a discussion about it, I was just asking on the off-chance anyone knew.
Norseg36 m ago

Hahaha don't be stupidBuying items from other countries is perfectly …Hahaha don't be stupidBuying items from other countries is perfectly legal. It's in Europe after all


You miss the point.
a-j3 h, 25 m ago

Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically …Not that it bothers me at all, but I am curious: isn't this technically fraud?


I think it's you that misses the point. I worked for the bank and can tell you 100% that this isn't anything remotely close to fraud. If anything your bank are in the wrong for accepting a transaction with an incorrect billing address. They should decline the transaction on inaccurate information. However they never do. It would only be fraud if you used someone else's card details and entered your name as the name on the card.

All you are doing here, is creating a solution to a loophole on needing a international billing address. It's your card, it's your funds, the company offer international shipping.... Where is the fraud? Lol
mixmixi1 h, 35 m ago

The gain is over differences in exchange rate and the use of gift cards as …The gain is over differences in exchange rate and the use of gift cards as payment method. Obviously if MS does the same promotion in the UK they will price the item at £35 instead 35 EU. Buying gift cards for less than their face value is not fraud either. In terms of buying from other countries, certainly if MS is concerned about it they can put restrictions just like what Amazon does and specify that delivery is exclusive to Italy only. Since they are not doing it, it means they are open to international sales. If they are offering it, why someone would one want to refuse it?


Exactly. If you go to buy from most American sellers on Amazon it will say they won’t ship to the UK and it’s game over. Microsoft could easily do the same.
JohnnyRoller31 m ago

I think it's you that misses the point. I worked for the bank and can tell …I think it's you that misses the point. I worked for the bank and can tell you 100% that this isn't anything remotely close to fraud. If anything your bank are in the wrong for accepting a transaction with an incorrect billing address. They should decline the transaction on inaccurate information. However they never do. It would only be fraud if you used someone else's card details and entered your name as the name on the card.All you are doing here, is creating a solution to a loophole on needing a international billing address. It's your card, it's your funds, the company offer international shipping.... Where is the fraud? Lol


Unless I'm mistaken, fraud is about deception for personal gain and nothing more - providing the incorrect address to get your child a place at a particular school, for instance.

I work in ecommerce and can tell you that companies will and do accept a level of fraud to increase their sales. It has long been established that it's better not to enforce too many checks on things because the loss in sales from people giving up because they can't spot their typo, or whatever, is greater than the losses incurred through people up to nefarious things. While something being a crime doesn't necessarily make it wrong (as here, if it is), a victim choosing to ignore a crime does not stop it being a crime.

Anyway, as I said, this really isn't the place for this discussion.
Y cant i use these gify cards? Only getting paypal or cresit card on microsoft
Just created an italian microsoft account amd still cant use gift cards ffs. 30 quid down the swanny @reindeer333 can you help please!?
Edited by: "mrb30" 17th Jan
mrb304 m ago

Just created an italian microsoft account amd still cant use gift cards …Just created an italian microsoft account amd still cant use gift cards ffs. 30 quid down the swanny @reindeer333 can you help please!?


Have you tried purchasing through your UK account? Have you tried entering the codes in the voucher section? If not I would contact Microsoft directly via their online chat option on the UK site and they should be able to help
Yes both accounts only show paypal or credit card as options of payment. They will prob tell me I shouldnt be doing that anyway
mrb3055 s ago

Yes both accounts only show paypal or credit card as options of payment. …Yes both accounts only show paypal or credit card as options of payment. They will prob tell me I shouldnt be doing that anyway


Or do you mean adding the gift cards to the italian account first, then trying?
mrb301 m ago

Yes both accounts only show paypal or credit card as options of payment. …Yes both accounts only show paypal or credit card as options of payment. They will prob tell me I shouldnt be doing that anyway


Are you trying to pay on mobile, it might be easier on PC? It is strange that you have no option to pay, as nearly everyone else does. Microsoft will help you out, I'm sure of it.
reindeer3333 m ago

Are you trying to pay on mobile, it might be easier on PC? It is strange …Are you trying to pay on mobile, it might be easier on PC? It is strange that you have no option to pay, as nearly everyone else does. Microsoft will help you out, I'm sure of it.


33083717-qShVU.jpgOn mobile but tried desktop site also
Didn't want the hassle of buying the gift cards so ordered by PayPal, cheers OP.
mrb309 m ago

[Image] On mobile but tried desktop site also


I would do what you suggested and try to add the gift cards to the Italian account first, and if that still does not work, contact them.
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