Xiaomi Honeywell Zigbee Fire Alarm Sensor £18.69 at Gearbest
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Xiaomi Honeywell Zigbee Fire Alarm Sensor £18.69 at Gearbest

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Found 12th SepEdited by:"mcek"
Back on promotion again. 16p off.
Standalone fire sensor, or connect to Smartthings, Zigbee stick, Raspbee, Xiaomi hub, etc, and set-up a notification on your phone.
Personal experience this Spring when my neighbour's house went up in smoke, internal fire wasn't visible from the street. At least a mobile phone alert could've saved some precious minutes as no-one saw anything. Have since bought one from Banggood, will get a couple more from here.
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Would it work with Alexa?
Wish they did a version with CO detection too.
Is this battery operated? How long does it last?
Would it work with Hive?
I *think* that this is the one that you can reverse set off the screeching alarm with via IFTTT setup, eg: your IP camera's see a dog doing a whoopsy in the garden and you can give it a quick blast on these to "wean" it off from doing it.. or you IP camera pops up that you have a certain unwanted burglariser in your lounge... helping themselves to your 88" UHD hukd TV... give them a quick 80-110db squirt of ear pain... if its not this one that you can do all that on.. its still one of the best smoke alarms made!
My last gearbest order got hit with Import VAT from royal mail, which is £8 + 20%. This would make this device considerably more expensive.

Personally, I am going to be careful ordering anything over £15 from gearbest in the future, unless dispatched from within eu.
Edited by: "susdev" 12th Sep
Alllfff1 h, 35 m ago

Is this battery operated? How long does it last?


Seems be battery operated...

Note: it is powered by CR123A cell battery ( not included ).
£18.71 In my aliexpress app. Free postage
I'd have thought they came with a battery. The one I bought early in the year certainly did
Does this need a gateway from xiaomi?
saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want your smart home to alert you to a fire?!

I looked on SmartThings forum as I'd be wanting it integrated in my ST app, and a few folks have had false alarms, and it's battery whereas my current Smoke detector is wired. I don't want two smoke detectors, one wired one battery on my ceiling, so i'm still pondering.

Don't really know why I posted this post, but thanks to the OP for posting, heat!
josh9711 h, 13 m ago

saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want …saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want your smart home to alert you to a fire?!I looked on SmartThings forum as I'd be wanting it integrated in my ST app, and a few folks have had false alarms, and it's battery whereas my current Smoke detector is wired. I don't want two smoke detectors, one wired one battery on my ceiling, so i'm still pondering.Don't really know why I posted this post, but thanks to the OP for posting, heat!


I'm exactly the same 😵
Been looking at these for about a year thinking shall I I've seen they will work in SmartThings but like you say they're not worth taking hard wired ones out for.
They've been around this price for some time now as well
stefromuk28 m ago

I'm exactly the same 😵Been looking at these for about a year thinking …I'm exactly the same 😵Been looking at these for about a year thinking shall I I've seen they will work in SmartThings but like you say they're not worth taking hard wired ones out for.They've been around this price for some time now as well


my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily mount it on the ceiling, just place it on my "phone table" in the hall would be better than nothing.

Having said that even ceiling mounting it and having 2 smoke alarms may look a bit silly but is perhaps better to have a loud audio alarm permanently powered, and a Xiaomi battery alarm to handle the remote alerting.
josh9713 h, 51 m ago

my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily mount …my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily mount it on the ceiling, just place it on my "phone table" in the hall would be better than nothing.Having said that even ceiling mounting it and having 2 smoke alarms may look a bit silly but is perhaps better to have a loud audio alarm permanently powered, and a Xiaomi battery alarm to handle the remote alerting.



What's putting me of is the battery !
Why does it have to use the tiny thin CR batteries 😵
I have 2 water leak sensors that use AAA batteries and they are great and last for ages.
Edited by: "stefromuk" 12th Sep
stefromuk4 m ago

josh971:my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily …josh971:my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily mount it on the ceiling, just place it on my "phone table" in the hall would be better than nothing.Having said that even ceiling mounting it and having 2 smoke alarms may look a bit silly but is perhaps better to have a loud audio alarm permanently powered, and a Xiaomi battery alarm to handle the remote alerting.What's putting me of is the battery !Why does it have to use the tiny thin CR batteries 😵I have 2 water leak sensors that use AAA batteries and they are great and last for ages.


I agree.

Where abouts do you put your water leak sensor? oo-er.
josh97114 m ago

I agree.Where abouts do you put your water leak sensor? oo-er.


Ha ha..
I've got one under my fish tank and one on the floor under my combi boiler.
I decided to get them when a pipe under my boiler had been dripping and drenched all our spare bedding underneath 😬
Plus they were only a fiver each from maplins.
if you're having this, you deffo still need normal fire alarm, mine has heat and smoke detector mains, ,its good for a secondary fire alarms but dont let it replace your main one and if you haven't got a fire alarm,dont let this be your first
Seriously tempted to get into the mi smart infrastructure - seems like its well thought out, has lots of different options and it's the best value of the smart home systems.
profet19 m ago

Seriously tempted to get into the mi smart infrastructure - seems like its …Seriously tempted to get into the mi smart infrastructure - seems like its well thought out, has lots of different options and it's the best value of the smart home systems.


It's really good. I have loads of their door / window sensors for £4 each. bought the smart things hub to almalgomate it all and keep it protocol and manufacturer agnostic although was techie to set this up
josh97138 m ago

It's really good. I have loads of their door / window sensors for £4 each. …It's really good. I have loads of their door / window sensors for £4 each. bought the smart things hub to almalgomate it all and keep it protocol and manufacturer agnostic although was techie to set this up


hey, do you have any yeelights controlled via smart things hub? wonder if this would work. thanks
stefromuk3 h, 4 m ago

josh971:my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily …josh971:my current thinking is just to buy one anyway, and not necessarily mount it on the ceiling, just place it on my "phone table" in the hall would be better than nothing.Having said that even ceiling mounting it and having 2 smoke alarms may look a bit silly but is perhaps better to have a loud audio alarm permanently powered, and a Xiaomi battery alarm to handle the remote alerting.What's putting me of is the battery !Why does it have to use the tiny thin CR batteries 😵I have 2 water leak sensors that use AAA batteries and they are great and last for ages.


Slightly confusing name but it's not a button cell CR battery the CR123A is more half AA sized
bednim44 m ago

hey, do you have any yeelights controlled via smart things hub? wonder if …hey, do you have any yeelights controlled via smart things hub? wonder if this would work. thanks


no, this is a whole new ball game and you'll need to introduce another technology into the mix called Home Assistant. I am technical but that is one technology, try as I may, I never seem to get on with. it's possible though - I've got it working.
bednim1 h, 8 m ago

hey, do you have any yeelights controlled via smart things hub? wonder if …hey, do you have any yeelights controlled via smart things hub? wonder if this would work. thanks


Yeelights are listed on IFTTT so you should be able to automate them within SmartThings.
solarfusion52 m ago

Slightly confusing name but it's not a button cell CR battery the CR123A …Slightly confusing name but it's not a button cell CR battery the CR123A is more half AA sized


Ah right that's better then 😁
Still wish they could be hard wired somehow.
susdev8 h, 50 m ago

My last gearbest order got hit with Import VAT from royal mail, which is …My last gearbest order got hit with Import VAT from royal mail, which is £8 + 20%. This would make this device considerably more expensive. Personally, I am going to be careful ordering anything over £15 from gearbest in the future, unless dispatched from within eu.



I feel your pain, same thing happened to me when I ordered a Mi Band 3, almost doubled the price after I got hammered with these fees. I was only 32p over the £15 threshold as well
If you just buy one and change the shipping drop down to "Netherlands Post Unregistered (No tracking number) £0.00 15-30 business days" it's free shipping on just one.

If it's "Netherlands post" does that mean it's shipped from a EU warehouse in Netherland and no import duty?
josh9711 h, 35 m ago

no, this is a whole new ball game and you'll need to introduce another …no, this is a whole new ball game and you'll need to introduce another technology into the mix called Home Assistant. I am technical but that is one technology, try as I may, I never seem to get on with. it's possible though - I've got it working.


ok - thanks. was looking at smart things but wasnt sure of yeelights integration. to be fair xiaomi hub works fine, controls my lights etc etc, what would be real benefit of getting smart things hub?
stefromuk1 h, 11 m ago

Yeelights are listed on IFTTT so you should be able to automate them …Yeelights are listed on IFTTT so you should be able to automate them within SmartThings.


you see, with xiaomi hub i can control my lights with xiaomi sensors even when there's no internet connection... dont really want to relly on another cloud

thanks tho!
bednim1 h, 15 m ago

ok - thanks. was looking at smart things but wasnt sure of yeelights …ok - thanks. was looking at smart things but wasnt sure of yeelights integration. to be fair xiaomi hub works fine, controls my lights etc etc, what would be real benefit of getting smart things hub?you see, with xiaomi hub i can control my lights with xiaomi sensors even when there's no internet connection... dont really want to relly on another cloud thanks tho!

If you already have Xiaomi there wouldn't be a massive advantage for basic things.
I think the main advantage would be that SmartThings is compatible with more third party devices.
So with my SmartThings I use
Hive Thermostat
IKEA Tradfri lights
Sonoff switches
H801 LED light strip controllers
Foxx water sensors.
And a few other bits, and to my knowledge I don't think you could get them to work on your Xiaomi unless you know how to do some coding but I'm not even sure how open the Xiaomi API is.

If you already have
bednim1 h, 21 m ago

ok - thanks. was looking at smart things but wasnt sure of yeelights …ok - thanks. was looking at smart things but wasnt sure of yeelights integration. to be fair xiaomi hub works fine, controls my lights etc etc, what would be real benefit of getting smart things hub?you see, with xiaomi hub i can control my lights with xiaomi sensors even when there's no internet connection... dont really want to relly on another cloud thanks tho!


I just went sthub as I got a monster deal on it and I like staying vendor and protocol agnostic for as long as possible, your use case sounds fine
kudos1uk1 h, 39 m ago

If you just buy one and change the shipping drop down to "Netherlands Post …If you just buy one and change the shipping drop down to "Netherlands Post Unregistered (No tracking number) £0.00 15-30 business days" it's free shipping on just one.If it's "Netherlands post" does that mean it's shipped from a EU warehouse in Netherland and no import duty?



No, I don't think so.
susdev5 m ago

No, I don't think so.


But how could it be Netherlands post from China?
kudos1uk4 m ago

But how could it be Netherlands post from China?


Honestly I have no idea how it works, but I guarantee that will be dispatched from China. You may get away without paying Import VAT, but it will depend on how it is handled when it enters the UK (obviously have no idea who will actually deliver it in the UK, but it won't be Netherlands post, it will just have gone via them on the way).
Edited by: "susdev" 12th Sep
susdev2 m ago

Honestly I have no idea how it works, but I guarantee that will be …Honestly I have no idea how it works, but I guarantee that will be dispatched from China. You may get away without paying Import VAT, but it will depend on how it is handled when it enters the UK (obviously have no idea who will actually deliver it in the UK, but it won't be Netherlands post, it will just have gone via them on the way).


Oh well, fingers crossed then.
josh97113 h, 14 m ago

saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want …saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want your smart home to alert you to a fire?!I looked on SmartThings forum as I'd be wanting it integrated in my ST app, and a few folks have had false alarms, and it's battery whereas my current Smoke detector is wired. I don't want two smoke detectors, one wired one battery on my ceiling, so i'm still pondering.Don't really know why I posted this post, but thanks to the OP for posting, heat!


I’ve been using one with ST for about 4 months now. No issues. Just ordered a second one from Aliexpress as they generally have them for around this price.
Zero_Zuul9 h, 56 m ago

I’ve been using one with ST for about 4 months now. No issues. Just o …I’ve been using one with ST for about 4 months now. No issues. Just ordered a second one from Aliexpress as they generally have them for around this price.


which Device Handler did you use?

Any false alarms?

Has it gone off when you've burnt toast yet? (i.e. has it worked as intended)
Edited by: "josh971" 13th Sep
josh97112th Sep

It's really good. I have loads of their door / window sensors for £4 each. …It's really good. I have loads of their door / window sensors for £4 each. bought the smart things hub to almalgomate it all and keep it protocol and manufacturer agnostic although was techie to set this up


Since you seem to be somewhat of an expert on these, which region should I chose when setting up? The default Europe?
profet31 m ago

Since you seem to be somewhat of an expert on these, which region should …Since you seem to be somewhat of an expert on these, which region should I chose when setting up? The default Europe?


Copied from the Xiaomi door sensor thread:

If you wonder where to add the device handler to your Smartthings hub

graph-eu01-euwest1.api.smartthings.com/
github.com/bsp…omi

Example howto page mygooglehomes.blogspot.com/201…tml

Basically, if someone has written a device driver for a sensor (a piece of code that will tell Smartthings how to read a sensor), then you go to your ST account page and add the code for cloud processing.
Some things do not need drivers, eg most Z-wave sensors.
The github link above shows the popular Xiaomi drivers for ST.
The blogspot link is how to add drivers to your ST.
The graph-eu01... page is when you have your ST registered in Europe, not the USA.
That awkward moment when your firealarm causes the fire
bitcoin512th Sep

I *think* that this is the one that you can reverse set off the screeching …I *think* that this is the one that you can reverse set off the screeching alarm with via IFTTT setup, eg: your IP camera's see a dog doing a whoopsy in the garden and you can give it a quick blast on these to "wean" it off from doing it.. or you IP camera pops up that you have a certain unwanted burglariser in your lounge... helping themselves to your 88" UHD hukd TV... give them a quick 80-110db squirt of ear pain... if its not this one that you can do all that on.. its still one of the best smoke alarms made!


Pretty cool, but IFTTT has quite a lot of latency for that sort of application. Personally I wouldn't want a 1-2 second delay for a burglar. It's a shame that it's so difficult to get a lot of these devices working locally with ZigBee/Z-Wave hubs.
josh97112th Sep

saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want …saw this pop up and immediately thought "Must buy", why wouldn't you want your smart home to alert you to a fire?!I looked on SmartThings forum as I'd be wanting it integrated in my ST app, and a few folks have had false alarms, and it's battery whereas my current Smoke detector is wired. I don't want two smoke detectors, one wired one battery on my ceiling, so i'm still pondering.Don't really know why I posted this post, but thanks to the OP for posting, heat!


To answer your question, even though it was probably rhetorical: one reason you might not want it to be smart is that you are then relying on the rest of your smart home functioning in the event of a fire. It's just adding more complexity.

If you configure this to work with a hub and alert over speakers and on your phone, will it operate correctly by itself in the event that your entire network is down? I know that some alarms will do and some won't.
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