Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Pro 3GB RAM 64GB ROM Helio X20 in GOLD with Official Global Firmware £119.68 from Aliexpress, Xiaomi Mi store
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Pro 3GB RAM 64GB ROM Helio X20 in GOLD with Official Global Firmware £119.68 from Aliexpress, Xiaomi Mi store

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Found 8th Mar
Seems a decent price for this version, with a seemingly snappier processor than the snapdragon 625.
I can't decide between this phone, with the Helio X20, or the Mi A1 posted previously. I'm interested in build quality (being fairly clumsy and likely to drop it a few times), camera quality and getting a couple of years use out of it.

From Xiaomi Mi store

Pls note it might come stamped with China Mobile 4G logo on the back


  • CPU ---------- MTK Helio X20 (MT6797M) Deca Core CPU (Mali-T880 MP4 GPU)

  • Screen ------- 5.5-inch 1920x1080p Screen

  • RAM+ROM -- 3GB + 64GB (Support 128GB TF Card, VFat Format Only )

  • Camera ------ 13MP Rear Camera, 5MP Front Camera

  • Battery ------ 4000mAh(Min) - 4100mAh(Typ), 5V 2A Quick Charge

  • OS ----------- MIUI 8, Official Global Firmware, Support OTA update, No root

  • Other -------- WIFI,Bluetooth,GPS,OTG,FM Radio

  • Network --- Dual SIM Dual Standby (Micro SIM Card x 1 + Nano SIM Card x 1 or Micro SIM Card x 1 + TF Card x 1)

2G: GSM 900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz; CDMA2000/1x BC0
4G: FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900 MHz TD LTE B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2555-2655MHz
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The snapdragon version of the Note4 is the safer bet, MTK are unreliable when it comes to releasing code to allow phone updates, as any Note1 MTK owner will tell you.

The Mi1A has a MIUI stablemate, I forget the name; exactly the same hardware, but with the MIUI overlay, so in theory, if you dont like the Mi1A OS, you could flash the MIUI version over it.

The Gold is a sweet colour, although if you can get the Rose Gold, it is even sweeter (not sure if it is still available).
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Gentle_Giant2 m ago

The snapdragon version of the Note4 is the safer bet, MTK are unreliable …The snapdragon version of the Note4 is the safer bet, MTK are unreliable when it comes to releasing code to allow phone updates, as any Note1 MTK owner will tell you.The Mi1A has a MIUI stablemate, I forget the name; exactly the same hardware, but with the MIUI overlay, so in theory, if you dont like the Mi1A OS, you could flash the MIUI version over it.The Gold is a sweet colour, although if you can get the Rose Gold, it is even sweeter (not sure if it is still available).


Thanks Gentle, Didn't realise the phone update issue with the Helio. Appreciate your thoughts.
djnsfc12 m ago

Thanks Gentle, Didn't realise the phone update issue with the Helio. …Thanks Gentle, Didn't realise the phone update issue with the Helio. Appreciate your thoughts.



I am not saying there are current issues, I use the Snapdragon versions now; but I know there have been repeasted issues with MTK based phones over the last 4-5 years, where it was impossible for Xiaomi to release new Android updates, because MTK wouldnt release the cpu coding.

The 4GB/32GB version of the Note4 is only £102 (I got a $4 discount so paid £99) right now; I dont think the extra ROM is worth the extra money, when you can slap in a 128GB miscroSD card for about the same outlay
Edited by: "Gentle_Giant" 8th Mar
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Gentle_Giant14 m ago

I am not saying there are current issues, I use the Snapdragon versions …I am not saying there are current issues, I use the Snapdragon versions now; but I know there have been repeasted issues with MTK based phones over the last 4-5 years, where it was impossible for Xiaomi to release new Android updates, because MTK wouldnt release the cpu coding.The 4GB/32GB version of the Note4 is only £102 (I got a $4 discount so paid £99) right now; I dont think the extra ROM is worth the extra money, when you can slap in a 128GB miscroSD card for about the same outlay


that seems a good deal, do you have a link?
Gentle_Giant16 m ago

The 4GB/32GB version of the Note4 is only £102 (I got a $4 discount so …The 4GB/32GB version of the Note4 is only £102 (I got a $4 discount so paid £99) right now; I dont think the extra ROM is worth the extra money, when you can slap in a 128GB miscroSD card for about the same outlay


Do they make a 4GB/32GB version?
Searching on Ali Express it only shows 3GB RAM for 32GB ROM versions.
From what i can see in the Description this doesn't have band 20 so no 4g on EE?
Ryan191ma46 m ago

From what i can see in the Description this doesn't have band 20 so no 4g …From what i can see in the Description this doesn't have band 20 so no 4g on EE?


EE only use Band 20 for VOLTE and for 4G coverage in rural areas, so unless you live out in the sticks, 4G should be good. It's the same for my network, and 4G is snappy on my Mi Note 3.
Gentle_Giant1 h, 11 m ago

I am not saying there are current issues, I use the Snapdragon versions …I am not saying there are current issues, I use the Snapdragon versions now; but I know there have been repeasted issues with MTK based phones over the last 4-5 years, where it was impossible for Xiaomi to release new Android updates, because MTK wouldnt release the cpu coding.The 4GB/32GB version of the Note4 is only £102 (I got a $4 discount so paid £99) right now; I dont think the extra ROM is worth the extra money, when you can slap in a 128GB miscroSD card for about the same outlay


Genuine question. Why would you take smaller rom and an SD slot. I'd take more rom and do without the SD slot all day long. My experience with memory cards in various devices from different manufacturers has never been good, and I don't understand some people's fixation with them. Again, genuine question.
badboyofrock6 h, 46 m ago

Genuine question. Why would you take smaller rom and an SD slot. I'd take …Genuine question. Why would you take smaller rom and an SD slot. I'd take more rom and do without the SD slot all day long. My experience with memory cards in various devices from different manufacturers has never been good, and I don't understand some people's fixation with them. Again, genuine question.



Break the phone, by dropping and smashing, or as I did last week into a hot bath, and everything saved in the phones ROM is lost; but all the things saved to the SD card are safe. I always set my phones to save photos, videos, contact list back ups etc to the SD card.
Yes, cards can die, but unless you are very unlucky, they will go "Read Only", so you can still recover the files. In all the years I have only had one SD card totally fail, and that was a brand new own-branded from SevenDayShop. I also had issues with both of the other cards I had from them falling apart after a couple of months use, so dont use the brand any longer.
BulldogNo17 h, 47 m ago

Do they make a 4GB/32GB version?Searching on Ali Express it only shows 3GB …Do they make a 4GB/32GB version?Searching on Ali Express it only shows 3GB RAM for 32GB ROM versions.



My bad, I was also talking on the phone and didnt realise I had hit the 4 and not the 3; 3/32 for £102.

My current Note3 is also 3GB and has never had less than 1.3GB of RAM free, so I think 4GB is still irrelevant to current generation phones; just a marketing ploy to sell more expensive kit; in the same way radio makers used to sell 2,3 and 4 transistor radios back in the late 1960's/early 1970's. The radio only actually USED 1 transistor, the others were just soldered to dead parts of the board and used as an excuse to double/triple the price.
Ryan191ma7 h, 47 m ago

From what i can see in the Description this doesn't have band 20 so no 4g …From what i can see in the Description this doesn't have band 20 so no 4g on EE?



It is GiffGaff/O2 that extensively use band 20, which is missing from the MI1A; others like EE do use it in certain (very) rural areas, but other than for VOLTE, it is very difficult to find out what band they are using in each area. THREE also use it, as per EE, in some rural areas.
Gentle_Giant1 h, 1 m ago

Break the phone, by dropping and smashing, or as I did last week into a …Break the phone, by dropping and smashing, or as I did last week into a hot bath, and everything saved in the phones ROM is lost; but all the things saved to the SD card are safe. I always set my phones to save photos, videos, contact list back ups etc to the SD card.Yes, cards can die, but unless you are very unlucky, they will go "Read Only", so you can still recover the files. In all the years I have only had one SD card totally fail, and that was a brand new own-branded from SevenDayShop. I also had issues with both of the other cards I had from them falling apart after a couple of months use, so dont use the brand any longer.


Ah, right. I get you. Problems I've had was with cards unmounting and the device needing a reboot and stuff like that. Can't be bothered with them now, especially with everything backed up to the cloud where the Russians etc can see it.
badboyofrock13 m ago

Ah, right. I get you. Problems I've had was with cards unmounting and the …Ah, right. I get you. Problems I've had was with cards unmounting and the device needing a reboot and stuff like that. Can't be bothered with them now, especially with everything backed up to the cloud where the Russians etc can see it.



I have heard of this issue, but never had it myself, across numerous phones, including a fake Lenovo P78 many years ago. Was it on a very early version of Android??
Gentle_Giant7 m ago

I have heard of this issue, but never had it myself, across numerous …I have heard of this issue, but never had it myself, across numerous phones, including a fake Lenovo P78 many years ago. Was it on a very early version of Android??


First time was on an early tablet, not sure of the OS version to be honest. I've had it on a couple of Sony Xperia phones, but most notably, on about 3 Samsung devices. People at work complained of the same thing. Think the android versions were 4.x.x up to 5.x.x, so not recent ones, to be fair. Also, when I stopped using them, I noticed an improvement in the camera write speed, so like I said, I don't bother anymore.
Edited by: "badboyofrock" 8th Mar
badboyofrock53 m ago

First time was on an early tablet, not sure of the OS version to be …First time was on an early tablet, not sure of the OS version to be honest. I've had it on a couple of Sony Xperia phones, but most notably, on about 3 Samsung devices. People at work complained of the same thing. Think the android versions were 4.x.x up to 5.x.x, so not recent ones, to be fair. Also, when I stopped using them, I noticed an improvement in the camera write speed, so like I said, I don't bother anymore.



OK, but I think you are missing out; technology has come a long way in the last few years, and Android didnt really fix the sd card issue until around 4-5 years ago. modern SD cards are as fast as storing to ROM these days, unless you fit a really old, cheap card.

Having said that, the guy in charge at Samsung's design centre for many years HATED SD cards etc, and did his best to undermine their use on Samsung, and later Xiaomi phones; it wasnt until he left Samsung that they started working properly. He even managed to get the option removed from many of the phone designs he was working on; hence a good number of older Samsung and many recent Xiaomi phones not having them.

There is a lengthy interview with him about the subject on YT somewhere.
Gentle_Giant5 h, 48 m ago

It is GiffGaff/O2 that extensively use band 20, which is missing from the …It is GiffGaff/O2 that extensively use band 20, which is missing from the MI1A; others like EE do use it in certain (very) rural areas, but other than for VOLTE, it is very difficult to find out what band they are using in each area. THREE also use it, as per EE, in some rural areas.


That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it just to use in rural areas. Get your facts right.
sam_of_london13 m ago

That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it …That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it just to use in rural areas. Get your facts right.



I think you mis-read what I wrote, O2 use it nearly everywhere*, EE and Three use it in a few remote areas for data (or did last time I checked out coverage), everywhere else they use higher frequencies that give better data transmission rates, but poorer coverage per cell.

*O2 did have a few higher frequency masts in the London area when I looked a couple of years ago.
sam_of_london11 h, 31 m ago

That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it …That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it just to use in rural areas. Get your facts right.


Gentle_Giants facts are 100% correct.
sam_of_london8th Mar

That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it …That is wrong. They use it every where. They did not spend billions on it just to use in rural areas. Get your facts right.



Here we go again, another comment ready to be reported for a sispensio
Do yourself a favour and don't buy this buggy piece of junk. Technically it's faster than the snapdragon version, for about 30 seconds until it overheats and throttles itself to be much slower, the battery life is also half that of the SD version, also no real updates either official or unofficial, stuck on Android 6, the SD is on 7 and has plenty of unofficial roms on 8.1.

MTK are junk and best avoided. The SD version is fantastic though, great phone, only paid about £130 for my 4GB/64GB one last June as well and has occasionally been cheaper.
I have this phone which I ordered from banggood for the price it's an OK
Phone,

Good points

Battery is fine

Cameras are ok

Screen is nice

I've not encountered any software issues and I had a few updates since I've had it

Bad points

No quick charge

No USB type C

Average cameras but then again who buys a phone for the camera!
I dont know why they continue to use these cpus as they over heat in seconds and that makes it basically unusable.

Even some of the sellers on aliexpress tell you to pick something else.Puzzling why they then continue to sell them if they advise against buying them.

If you use battery saver and/or an app to throttle the cpu way down it will work but of course slowly compared to a snapdragon version. So no point if they are the same price.
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