XOSS SPRINT - An Exceptional Powerful Cycling Computer £117.80 (45% off RRP) @ Kickstarter

I don’t think kickstarters should be allowed on here as you’re not actually buying a product only the idea of a product you may or may not get.
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migavupe5 m ago

I don’t think kickstarters should be allowed on here as you’re not act …I don’t think kickstarters should be allowed on here as you’re not actually buying a product only the idea of a product you may or may not get. Cold.Read lessRead more

I've backed plenty of projects on there and received all of them...

MRR_ltd4 m ago

I've backed plenty of projects on there and received all of them...

I have too but you are buying an idea not an actual product. Always a chance you can end up with nothing. Go and look up the spectrum vega+ and the shipstorm that’s causing.

Technically the £117.80 is excluding VAT.

migavupe39 m ago

I have too but you are buying an idea not an actual product. Always a …I have too but you are buying an idea not an actual product. Always a chance you can end up with nothing. Go and look up the spectrum vega+ and the shipstorm that’s causing.Read lessRead more

Nope, if it doesn't get made you don't pay anything. By signing up to pre order you are saying you back the product to be made, once the target amount is reached the prduct is put in to manufacturing and then you are charged.

Ive often found kickstarters to be a similar experience to preordering games, you pay a premium for an incomplete product.

mac90911 h, 34 m ago

Nope, if it doesn't get made you don't pay anything. By signing up to pre …Nope, if it doesn't get made you don't pay anything. By signing up to pre order you are saying you back the product to be made, once the target amount is reached the prduct is put in to manufacturing and then you are charged.Read lessRead more

Nope. You're wrong. If the project meets it's funding goal you are charged. You have funded a project not bought a product, it can still go tips up and you get nothing.
Many projects have been funded then gone bust without any product.

All laid as clear as mud in that ... No, Kickstarter doesn't issue refunds. Transactions are between backers and creators directly. Creators receive all funds (less fees) soon after their campaign ends.
So no guarantee then.
But saying all that it does seem a very good value product if all functionality and price is true.

This just echoes people complaining that Apple and Samsung smartphones are too expensive compared to cheap Chinese phones when in fact you are investing/paying for the R&D.

Yes, the Garmin equivalent isn’t perfect and it’s expensive but it works properly and reliably and that’s why I’d choose that over some upstart product that is still in development with many promises that may never be met and by the time it does come out something else better may be out.

I’ve also been burned by too many Kickstarter projects that promise the world and are just a load of junk when/if they arrive.

Remember that "fidget cube"? Started out as a Kickstarter and people paid somewhere around the $25 to $30 mark per unit.

Within literally a couple of weeks, clone cubes were being mass produced in China and sold for as little as $4 per unit delivered - ironically from the same mouldings the Kickstarter guys had just paid R&D money for.

To stick the knife in even further, if you purchased a 'clone' from China it arrived in a couple of weeks - whereas the people who paid for the Kickstarter hadn't even received their units well over a month later.

Worst case: you'll lose all your Kickstarter money. Best case, you'll actually receive something - but the Chinese will already have knocked it off with a better unit for around 25% of the price you paid.

It's difficult to see what this unit does that the Wahoo Elemnt/Bolt doesn't do, except maybe a longer battery life. Given that the Wahoo's battery life is already longer than I'm ever going to cycle that's not an issue.

The Elemnt Bolt is readily available, tried, tested, refined, WORKS exceptionally well and available. It's also only £200 INCLUDING VAT.

Thanks but no thanks, I have a Wahoo Element and won't go back to Garmin or nor an unheard of company.

If payed by credit card and this Kickstarter flopped - would I be able to go through the credit card company for a refund