Yale Dummy Siren Box (same as comes with house alarms) - £3.49 @ Wilkinsons
433°Expired

Yale Dummy Siren Box (same as comes with house alarms) - £3.49 @ Wilkinsons

71
Found 13th Oct 2013
Hello

Just been to my local Wilkinsons in Stockton on Tees (details at bottom of post) and they had a few security items reduced.

They had a Yale Dummy Siren Box (same as comes with house alarms) reduced to £3.49 which seemed quite cheap. I left my mobile at home or would have snapped a photo. I think it must be company wide as part of their sale.


Could deter a thief especially on dark nights. Cheap enough for front of garage etc


This is the same item at Argos for £16.99

argos.co.uk/sta…htm

STORE DETAILS if you wish to phone and check

Wilkinson
1/8 JOHN WALKER SQUARE
TS18 1AQ

Telephone: 01642 606924

71 Comments

Isn't it better to just get a working alarm or am I missing the point?

Original Poster

karlypants

Isn't it better to just get a working alarm or am I missing the point?



Possibly but 3 quid for a dummy box to act as a deterrent for out buildings and garages MIGHT just deter the smackhead from trying. So yes I think you missed the point altogether there.

cool. thanks

I have this alarm with boxes out the front and back of our house.

At this price I'll buy another one and stick it inside the garage, it might put someone off if they do make it through the door.

cant seem to see it on their website. .maybe store specific

Hope it's in Loughborough store

hornblowerracing

I have this alarm with boxes out the front and back of our house.At this … I have this alarm with boxes out the front and back of our house.At this price I'll buy another one and stick it inside the garage, it might put someone off if they do make it through the door.



And if they make it through the garage door leave one on the front seat.

Thanks OP. Brilliant find. Had been looking for one of these on and off but at this price it's definitely worth it. Local store didn't have it but helpful staff managed to track a couple down at another store and will deliver to my store for me.
Cheers.

Graham1979

Possibly but 3 quid for a dummy box to act as a deterrent for out … Possibly but 3 quid for a dummy box to act as a deterrent for out buildings and garages MIGHT just deter the smackhead from trying. So yes I think you missed the point altogether there.



That's what you would like to think, until they rob you, which happened to us 13 months ago.

They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit, its like a challenge for them to get in as quickly as possible and back out.

If you live near Stockton I'd suggest a complete alarm rather than a dummy box

If you can't afford a proper alarm then this is the certainly better then having nothing. Worth it for £3.49. Have some heat OP

Thanks OP Heat added

Kyballion

That's what you would like to think, until they rob you, which happened … That's what you would like to think, until they rob you, which happened to us 13 months ago. They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit, its like a challenge for them to get in as quickly as possible and back out.



Your single experience doesn't negate the fairly reliable statistic that homes with dummy bell boxes and with real alarms are less likely to be burgled.

cybergibbons

Your single experience doesn't negate the fairly reliable statistic that … Your single experience doesn't negate the fairly reliable statistic that homes with dummy bell boxes and with real alarms are less likely to be burgled.



No but its also evident that they do not always deter thieves, likewise, having dummy bell boxes does not mean you will not get burgled.

Your better off getting a real alarm than beating yourself up over the lack of one when you do get robbed, trust me, I know the feeling.

Edited by: "Kyballion" 13th Oct 2013

Thanks OP, now I know quite a lot of people will have Yale Dummy Siren Box, let the robbing commence!

Am I missing something here? Is this just a piece of moulded plastic, or does it have lights etc?

Banned

This won't fool anyone as an active box has an led that pulses whether armed or not, so it would be obviouse in these darker nights to see this is a passive ( dummy ) and not an active (real) box. But for £3.49 it is a hot price.

you can buy a led light to fit insise the dummy alarm box from Maplin or amazon for £7

JohnnyUtah

And if they make it through the garage door leave one on the front seat.



There is no car in my garage.......

d19mes

This won't fool anyone as an active box has an led that pulses whether … This won't fool anyone as an active box has an led that pulses whether armed or not



The Yale system only flashes when the alarm is actually triggered. Not a continuous pulse.

If you leave a window open, someone might climb through, if you lock it, they are less likely.

If you leave a door open, someone might walk in, if you lock it, they are less likely.

If you have an operating intruder alarm, you are less likely to get burgled.

If you have a false one, it MIGHT act as a deterrent, in which case it will have been worth the investment.

Banned

jay1

The Yale system only flashes when the alarm is actually triggered. Not a … The Yale system only flashes when the alarm is actually triggered. Not a continuous pulse.

Sorry to disagree but the strobe flashes when triggered, however there is a small led that flashes all the time when power is active. How do I know 20 years in the industry!

d19mes

Sorry to disagree but the strobe flashes when triggered, however there is … Sorry to disagree but the strobe flashes when triggered, however there is a small led that flashes all the time when power is active. How do I know 20 years in the industry!



Well 20 years in the industry obviously means nothing because I have installed one at my house and it doesnt flash until the alarm is triggered.

cybergibbons

Your single experience doesn't negate the fairly reliable statistic that … Your single experience doesn't negate the fairly reliable statistic that homes with dummy bell boxes and with real alarms are less likely to be burgled.



Don't want to come across all wikipediary but have you got a source for that?

Never heard of Costco before, so have saved it in my "stores" folder for later use, thanks

Handbags handbags esteem gentleman, tell you what, lets go and ask at burglarhangout.com

MEANWHILE, Voted HoT!

Not all real Alarm system boxes have a pulsating light, most will flash a strobe when the alarm has been triggered.

There is no difference in fitting a real alarm box to a fake alarm dummy box. They both look the same and will deter some thieves from breaking into your property.

Even if your alarm was real, people, neighbors and passers by do NOT take any notice of a house alarm going off. (that has been proven with research).

Most thieves who do brave a dummy box or a real alarm box will still enter your home while a real alarm box is ringing, its a case of a quick grab and exit.

Its the same with dummy CCTV cameras, they do deter thieves as the thief does not know if the system is real of fake. The only trouble is with a real or a dummy system the thieves just wear dark and hooded clothing so they cannot be recognized. The police will be the first to tell you any recorded evidence is not usable as no face recognition is present.

Having a dummy alarm box and a dummy CCTV camera accompanied with door and window alarm stickers is a deterrent, just as with a real alarm system.



Doh!!!, Now everyone on HUKD know I don't have real alarm oO

Banned

jay1

Well 20 years in the industry obviously means nothing because I have … Well 20 years in the industry obviously means nothing because I have installed one at my house and it doesnt flash until the alarm is triggered.

I'd be taking It back because it's faulty, I fitted loads of these and everyone has the flashing led, I'm not going to enter into a argument with you, but if yours dose not flash, not strobe then it is faulty.
Edited by: "d19mes" 13th Oct 2013

Kyballion

They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like … They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit, its like a challenge for them to get in as quickly as possible and back out.



Kyballion

No but its also evident that they do not always deter thieves, likewise, … No but its also evident that they do not always deter thieves, likewise, having dummy bell boxes does not mean you will not get burgled.



Which one is it? Do they work or not?

d19mes

Sorry to disagree but the strobe flashes when triggered, however there is … Sorry to disagree but the strobe flashes when triggered, however there is a small led that flashes all the time when power is active. How do I know 20 years in the industry!



No it all depends on model and brand, your 20 years have been wasted I guest. lol

Yale 6200 model strobe flashes only when activated CLICK HERE!

The standard real Yale alarm box does NOT flash when armed CLICK HERE! You have a company that custom fits Zico Comfort LEDs.

Yale alarms kits are excellent value for money alarm systems. However the external sirens do not have comfort LEDs. Comfort LEDs are constantly flashing LEDs that show your alarm is live and working 24/7 to potential burglars and intruders. We exclusively supply Yale alarm kits with our unique factory fitted Zico Twin comfort LEDs. These professional grade twin comfort LEDs are guaranteed by us for 10 years. Avoid disappointment and doubt of not having comfort LEDs by ordering a Yale alarm with fitted constantly flashing comfort LEDs.


Edited by: "Da11as" 13th Oct 2013

d19mes

I'd be taking It back because it's faulty, I fitted loads of these and … I'd be taking It back because it's faulty, I fitted loads of these and everyone has the flashing led, I'm not going to enter into a argument with you, but if yours dose not flash, not strobe then it is faulty.



It is not faulty. They purposely do not flash to preserve battery life.

Here is a review showing the leds do not flash continuously.

Here is a video of a modified siren to make it pulse.

So stop making things up you know nothing about. And if youve been in the business for 20 years why are you fitting cheap wireless alarms anyway? Not exactly professional is it...

jay1

It is not faulty. They purposely do not flash to preserve battery life. … It is not faulty. They purposely do not flash to preserve battery life. Here is a review showing the leds do not flash continuously.Here is a video of a modified siren to make it pulse. So stop making things up you know nothing about. And if youve been in the business for 20 years why are you fitting cheap wireless alarms anyway? Not exactly professional is it...



lol, Jay1 why are you posting my links.............. I'm tying to help you out here. X)
Edited by: "Da11as" 13th Oct 2013

Kyballion

They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like … They do not get deterred by these things, actually I think its like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit, its like a challenge for them to get in as quickly as possible and back out.

Kyballion

No but its also evident that they do not always deter thieves, likewise, … No but its also evident that they do not always deter thieves, likewise, having dummy bell boxes does not mean you will not get burgled.



How the hell am I supposed to know?!

Everything has its duality, I have been to expensive office blocks in London and seen clients offices that were broken into like something you have seen from a movie, I am talking secured buildings with security, yet they somehow got in and stole a bunch of very sensitive documents and other bits, I have no idea what exactly.

I have seen people not locking up their thousand pound specialized bikes and going shopping and it not getting stolen.

I can only look at both sides of anything. Having no security will obviously make things easier for a thief, having a lot of security can also make a thief curious, instead, I choose not to worry about anything and not cling to material things.

My greatest advice is this:

1. Get a couple of CCTV's for your own convience, its nice being able to look around and find out who let their dog **** all over the front of the house, or when a courier fail to deliver.

2. Lock all private things in the loft or hide in the bathroom, these were 2 places they never went.

3. Get locks for all doors, this will slow them down and give them a leg ache, they had to kick down 5 doors to get through to all the rooms.

4. Lock all lower level windows and hide the keys in little hidden places in a close proximity to the locks.

5. Get anti bump and anti screw locks for the front door.

6. Get anti climb spikes along all possible climbing places.

7.Insure everything, keep all receipts, make sure you check every aspect of your insurance policy, make sure your covered. I can assure you, no insurance settlements will ever replace the internal damage to you, your loved ones, or the lost sentimental goods passed down the generations but it will keep you moving forward.

8. Sit, think, reflect on what kind of life this is and whether all your protecting is actually worth protecting...

I am fully insured, that's all that matters.

Oh and congrats on finding one of my usual contradictions, I commend you sir.




Edited by: "Kyballion" 13th Oct 2013

Banned

Da11as

No it all depends on model and brand, your 20 years have been wasted I … No it all depends on model and brand, your 20 years have been wasted I guest. lolYale 6200 model strobe flashes only when activated CLICK HERE!The standard real Yale alarm box does NOT flash when armedCLICK HERE! You have a company that custom fits Zico Comfort LEDs. Yale alarms kits are excellent value for money alarm systems. However the external sirens do not have comfort LEDs. Comfort LEDs are constantly flashing LEDs that show your alarm is live and working 24/7 to potential burglars and intruders. We exclusively supply Yale alarm kits with our unique factory fitted Zico Twin comfort LEDs. These professional grade twin comfort LEDs are guaranteed by us for 10 years. Avoid disappointment and doubt of not having comfort LEDs by ordering a Yale alarm with fitted constantly flashing comfort LEDs.

your utube links are to toy alarms wireless for the uneducated, these can not be considered a proper alarms and are sold for the do it yourself market. It is very unlikely these will be recognised by your insurance company. The proper Yale hard wired box has a flashing led. This is the last I am going to post on it, if your happy to live in your ignorance that fine. Perhaps I have wasted my time for the last 20 years, but hey it's paid for my 5 bed house and my range rover sport, I think I carry on wasting my time and knowledge!

Da11as

lol, Jay1 why are you posting my links.............. I'm tying to help … lol, Jay1 why are you posting my links.............. I'm tying to help you out here. X)



Haha only saw yours after I posted!

d19mes

it's paid for my 5 bed house and my range rover sport



Hahahahahaha what a complete idiot! I bet you live in a 2 bed council flat with your pathetic knowledge!

jay1

Well 20 years in the industry obviously means nothing because I have … Well 20 years in the industry obviously means nothing because I have installed one at my house and it doesnt flash until the alarm is triggered.


JezUK

Don't want to come across all wikipediary but have you got a source for … Don't want to come across all wikipediary but have you got a source for that?



I'm cooking dinner at the moment, not really able to look. But the three key sources are:
1. An survey of ~80 burglars by the Home Office in 2004.
2. ONS burglary stats show that houses with better security, including alarms, are less likely to be burgled. These are raw stats, so you need to be careful with these. A house with an alarm is more likely to have basic security measures, more likely to have already been burgled etc.
3. There is a big dissertation called "The impact of burglar alarms on residential burglaries" or similar. It's quite long and not an easy read. It's also American, but it shows there can be a significant deterrent effect and it is highly unlikely to increase the chance of burglary.

I have a big interest in alarms and how they work:
http://cybergibbons.com/category/alarms-2/
cybergibbons.com/unc…ry/

Kyballion

How the hell am I supposed to know?!



No idea, but if you say something like "they do not get deterred by these things" you'd kind of expect some kind of knowledge to be behind that.

This had turned into a thread on how to secure your home ! Should be about the item found and weather it us a good priced deal or not. Second to this if u want the full alarm system try ironmongery direct full system for £134 and u might even find a discount code or 2 to bring it down abit more
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text