Yale SD-L1000-CH Conexis L1 Smart Door £149.99 @ Amazon
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Yale SD-L1000-CH Conexis L1 Smart Door £149.99 @ Amazon

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Posted 31st Oct
Yale SD-L1000-CH Conexis L1 Smart Door, App Control, Key/Phone Tags, Remote Lock/Unlock, Chrome Finish
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kencol31/10/2019 19:28

What's the difference between Zwave module and Zwave module 2?


The number 2
1. Can it be hacked?
Probably but window glass can smashed, locks can be snapped/picked. Despite your mate Bob telling you he did it with his old 5110 nokia and a hair pin they're just as susceptible as all other locks.

2.Can i monitored by ET or the NSA?
Probably but I'm sure they have more interesting things to monitor that when you open and close your door.

3. Are they full of glitches?
Probably but it can come down to the fitting and maintenance 90% of the time. I'm sure you decided to DIY the lock and think you're awesome at it, but your wonky shelves speak louder than you complaints.
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 19:29

Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it …Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.



Problem 1: Do you carry a spare usb cable wherever you go?
Problem 2: Specifically which usb connector do you want them to install? The most common one now, the most common one from a couple of years ago, the next standard (c) or maybe imagine one from the future? These locks could be in doors for 20 years...

I think overall, a standard 9v battery is a pretty acceptable compromise.
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 19:29

Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it …Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.


The mind boggles thinking what the offspring would look like
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battery powered? what could go wrong
teame.trevski31/10/2019 19:15

battery powered? what could go wrong


Gives you plenty of warning when the batteries are going low, plus if all else fails, it has connection on the bottom for a 9V square battery
What's the difference between Zwave module and Zwave module 2?
BeerDrinker31/10/2019 19:20

Gives you plenty of warning when the batteries are going low, plus if all …Gives you plenty of warning when the batteries are going low, plus if all else fails, it has connection on the bottom for a 9V square battery


Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.
kencol31/10/2019 19:28

What's the difference between Zwave module and Zwave module 2?


The number 2
Does this link in with any of their alarm systems?
kencol31/10/2019 19:28

What's the difference between Zwave module and Zwave module 2?


Module 2 sorted out the hack that was previously used
mattybayston31/10/2019 19:35

Does this link in with any of their alarm systems?


Yes, with the Sync alarms
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 19:29

Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it …Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.



Problem 1: Do you carry a spare usb cable wherever you go?
Problem 2: Specifically which usb connector do you want them to install? The most common one now, the most common one from a couple of years ago, the next standard (c) or maybe imagine one from the future? These locks could be in doors for 20 years...

I think overall, a standard 9v battery is a pretty acceptable compromise.
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 19:29

Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it …Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.


Would that work ? A mobile phone is 3.6v and the usb is 5v but a 9v battery is....9v ?
lollypoplee31/10/2019 20:01

Would that work ? A mobile phone is 3.6v and the usb is 5v but a 9v …Would that work ? A mobile phone is 3.6v and the usb is 5v but a 9v battery is....9v ?


Obviously they would need to redesign the terminal.
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 19:29

Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it …Tip for Yale. Get a USB connection so you can just mate your phone with it instead of 9v battery terminal.


The mind boggles thinking what the offspring would look like
1. Can it be hacked?
Probably but window glass can smashed, locks can be snapped/picked. Despite your mate Bob telling you he did it with his old 5110 nokia and a hair pin they're just as susceptible as all other locks.

2.Can i monitored by ET or the NSA?
Probably but I'm sure they have more interesting things to monitor that when you open and close your door.

3. Are they full of glitches?
Probably but it can come down to the fitting and maintenance 90% of the time. I'm sure you decided to DIY the lock and think you're awesome at it, but your wonky shelves speak louder than you complaints.
pbrien197831/10/2019 19:51

Yes, with the Sync alarms


Do you need to buy additional modules? They are looking like £50 on amazon?
Man! I said Central locking for homes was a potential money spinner about 12 years ago....
1. Can it be hacked?
Probably but window glass can smashed, locks can be snapped/picked. Despite your mate Bob telling you he did it with his old 5110 nokia and a hair pin they're just as susceptible as all other locks.
-Also worth pointing out that this will report if it has been used, a standard lock can't do that!

2.Can i monitored by ET or the NSA?
Probably but I'm sure they have more interesting things to monitor that when you open and close your door.

3. Are they full of glitches?
Probably but it can come down to the fitting and maintenance 90% of the time. I'm sure you decided to DIY the lock and think you're awesome at it, but your wonky shelves speak louder than you complaints.
I guess it's all about the convenience - personally I just fitted new handles, even though I could get this for £100 I didn't think it was worth the hassle and I didn't have a usage case to justify it either (FWIW I bought a ESP-Cam and fitted it in the door jam - I can get a live picture of the lock position which is what I wanted, answers the question "did I lock the door" and cost less than £7)
The app went down last year for a day. This put me off.
mattybayston31/10/2019 20:16

Do you need to buy additional modules? They are looking like £50 on amazon?


Can be got much cheaper..... Like everything.... welcome to HUKD!
kencol31/10/2019 19:28

What's the difference between Zwave module and Zwave module 2?


2
I wouldn't use one on my front door, but I thought this was quite a neat idea:-

You couldn't pay me to have one of these on my house, but each to their own...

Make sure to check with your home insurance before fitting these. Type of lock used on doors is typically a key (hehe) aspect of your policy.
thib_b31/10/2019 22:01

You couldn't pay me to have one of these on my house, but each to their …You couldn't pay me to have one of these on my house, but each to their own...Make sure to check with your home insurance before fitting these. Type of lock used on doors is typically a key (hehe) aspect of your policy.


I don’t think I’ve ever been asked if my door is key operated; only if it’s got a MPLS?
ChrisiB31/10/2019 22:11

I don’t think I’ve ever been asked if my door is key operated; only if it’s g …I don’t think I’ve ever been asked if my door is key operated; only if it’s got a MPLS?


I'm no authority, but chances are you're fine, but I'd personally check with my insurer, just in case. They have a nasty habit of trying to wriggle their way out of a claim. My humble opinion.

This may help anybody wondering:
thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-7285437/Do-need-let-insurer-know-changing-door-affect-premiums.html
Edited by: "thib_b" 31st Oct
bilbob31/10/2019 19:57

Problem 1: Do you carry a spare usb cable wherever you go?Problem 2: …Problem 1: Do you carry a spare usb cable wherever you go?Problem 2: Specifically which usb connector do you want them to install? The most common one now, the most common one from a couple of years ago, the next standard (c) or maybe imagine one from the future? These locks could be in doors for 20 years...I think overall, a standard 9v battery is a pretty acceptable compromise.


Yes most people have one in their car. Or provide a male as well. Maybe usb-c. Provide adaptors like micro USB. Bit easier than 9v battery.
mtcleaning83_.31/10/2019 20:09

1. Can it be hacked?Probably but window glass can smashed, locks can be …1. Can it be hacked?Probably but window glass can smashed, locks can be snapped/picked. Despite your mate Bob telling you he did it with his old 5110 nokia and a hair pin they're just as susceptible as all other locks.2.Can i monitored by ET or the NSA?Probably but I'm sure they have more interesting things to monitor that when you open and close your door.3. Are they full of glitches?Probably but it can come down to the fitting and maintenance 90% of the time. I'm sure you decided to DIY the lock and think you're awesome at it, but your wonky shelves speak louder than you complaints.


4. Can you claim on your insurance with no sign of forced entry if it were hacked? Possibly. Yes a lock can get picked but to hack a smart door it might be less visually obvious than sticking pins etc in a door lock.
Think the reason for a 9v volt battery is to power the mechanism that turns the lock. Would a phone battery have enough oomph to do that.
thib_b31/10/2019 22:01

You couldn't pay me to have one of these on my house, but each to their …You couldn't pay me to have one of these on my house, but each to their own...Make sure to check with your home insurance before fitting these. Type of lock used on doors is typically a key (hehe) aspect of your policy.


Technically, this is not a lock - just a handle, with a motor.
love the idea but it looks huge on the photos!!
FunkiestMonkey31/10/2019 22:37

Yes most people have one in their car. Or provide a male as well. Maybe …Yes most people have one in their car. Or provide a male as well. Maybe usb-c. Provide adaptors like micro USB.


Ironically, you've literally just written why it's a bad idea to rely on USB. 3 or 4 options right there. Let alone future options.
bilbob01/11/2019 06:41

Ironically, you've literally just written why it's a bad idea to rely on …Ironically, you've literally just written why it's a bad idea to rely on USB. 3 or 4 options right there. Let alone future options.


As I thought more about this, it's actually a fairly bad idea to use USB, not just for the reasons I listed above, but also a USB socket will corrode over time. What if someone decides to gum up the socket, or put glue in it? Even chewing gum, paper... anything would be a PITA to deal with.
Open blank terminals will be far more reliable, and I'm guessing that's what they had in mind for something that will (should..!) last so long in a fitment.
I usually get 3 months out of a set
chillbill31/10/2019 20:55

The app went down last year for a day. This put me off.


I always carry one of the phone tag 'stickers' on my phone, no app, internet or Bluetooth needed then.
MR112301/11/2019 09:01

How long did the battery last?


I get 9 months for a set out without a 'module' fitted and the handle gives plenty of notice when they are getting low.
I’m getting a new door fitted in a few weeks and looked into this lock. I’d even gone as far as to add it to basket just wanted to talk it over with the wife. Then I had a read of the amazon reviews!! When it’s good it’s great by the sounds of things but when it goes wrong it’s a disaster. People being locked out of their houses for hours no Yale support out of hours. Batteries dying with little notice. I love the whole idea of this but I don’t think the technology’s there just yet. Might wait to see what happens with the next model upgrade. If you are looking into getting one. The biggest thing I took away from the amazon reviews was buy it from a local shop where you can return it if it breaks and don’t bin your old lock!!
Dti101/11/2019 10:07

I’m getting a new door fitted in a few weeks and looked into this lock. I …I’m getting a new door fitted in a few weeks and looked into this lock. I’d even gone as far as to add it to basket just wanted to talk it over with the wife. Then I had a read of the amazon reviews!! When it’s good it’s great by the sounds of things but when it goes wrong it’s a disaster. People being locked out of their houses for hours no Yale support out of hours. Batteries dying with little notice. I love the whole idea of this but I don’t think the technology’s there just yet. Might wait to see what happens with the next model upgrade. If you are looking into getting one. The biggest thing I took away from the amazon reviews was buy it from a local shop where you can return it if it breaks and don’t bin your old lock!!


People get so wrapped up in the '30 day return window' for amazon... If it becomes so bad that it's useless, then it's not fit for purpose, and can be returned to amazon any time under the warranty (assuming the are the seller here..).
Although I do believe that many bad reviews are based on user error. I would love one of these, as we've bought into the whole smart home thing, but we don't have suitable doors. However, I would probably fit one on the back door first...
Dti101/11/2019 10:07

I’m getting a new door fitted in a few weeks and looked into this lock. I …I’m getting a new door fitted in a few weeks and looked into this lock. I’d even gone as far as to add it to basket just wanted to talk it over with the wife. Then I had a read of the amazon reviews!! When it’s good it’s great by the sounds of things but when it goes wrong it’s a disaster. People being locked out of their houses for hours no Yale support out of hours. Batteries dying with little notice. I love the whole idea of this but I don’t think the technology’s there just yet. Might wait to see what happens with the next model upgrade. If you are looking into getting one. The biggest thing I took away from the amazon reviews was buy it from a local shop where you can return it if it breaks and don’t bin your old lock!!


the bad reviews are front the initial setup of the cards/tags/stickers etc as the app is a bit flaky but this is a 1 time operation.

Yale recommend you DO NOT rely on the app only and to always card a card/tag/sticker.
BeerDrinker31/10/2019 19:20

Gives you plenty of warning when the batteries are going low, plus if all …Gives you plenty of warning when the batteries are going low, plus if all else fails, it has connection on the bottom for a 9V square battery



Out of interest if one connected a powerful battery to the terminal would it destroy the lock and leave it open? I don't expect you will know the answer (at least I hope you won't!) but this is a concern.
afroylnt01/11/2019 10:42

Out of interest if one connected a powerful battery to the terminal would …Out of interest if one connected a powerful battery to the terminal would it destroy the lock and leave it open? I don't expect you will know the answer (at least I hope you won't!) but this is a concern.


Would likely destroy the electrical internals but this wouldn't unlock the door, unless it was already unlocked.
Edited by: "BeerDrinker" 1st Nov
bilbob01/11/2019 08:44

As I thought more about this, it's actually a fairly bad idea to use USB, …As I thought more about this, it's actually a fairly bad idea to use USB, not just for the reasons I listed above, but also a USB socket will corrode over time. What if someone decides to gum up the socket, or put glue in it? Even chewing gum, paper... anything would be a PITA to deal with.Open blank terminals will be far more reliable, and I'm guessing that's what they had in mind for something that will (should..!) last so long in a fitment.


Usb terminals could also get damaged/bent and insects might set up home in a usb socket.

I'd suggest keeping a 9v battery wrapped up in plastic in the front garden hidden in one of those hollow rocks for keys, if you can find one big enough, or even in a key safe.

There's a fair chance it might work on 5v, in which case, if anyone wants usb, they could make a tiny usb adaptor to connect a phone/powerbank from a usb plug, but include protection against short circuits.
Edited by: "melted" 1st Nov
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