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Yale Smart Living Door Lock £74.99 @ Amazon
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Posted 4th Dec 2019

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Had one of these on my door for about a year. Paid about twice this, but well worth it to never have to use keys again. Some people have had issues with faulty units, but barring that, if installed correctly, they are wonderful!
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Mr_Gus04/12/2019 19:10

Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal …Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal with cold, & the sensitivity of the key presses was abysmal leading to numerous attempts of inputting.


Guess its a good thing we dont live in the alps...
Mr_Gus04/12/2019 19:10

Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal …Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal with cold, & the sensitivity of the key presses was abysmal leading to numerous attempts of inputting.


So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain gloves.
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AMAZING PRICE!
Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.
couldn't deal with cold, & the sensitivity of the key presses was abysmal leading to numerous attempts of inputting.
Mr_Gus04/12/2019 19:10

Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal …Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal with cold, & the sensitivity of the key presses was abysmal leading to numerous attempts of inputting.


Guess its a good thing we dont live in the alps...
simonbrowne04/12/2019 19:50

Guess its a good thing we dont live in the alps...


If only..
Flapjackdoodoo04/12/2019 19:54

We have marmite, they have marmots.


In a blind taste test, 9 out of 10 Britons can't tell the difference.
Mr_Gus04/12/2019 19:10

Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal …Had one of these out in the alps for a store room, it sucked.couldn't deal with cold, & the sensitivity of the key presses was abysmal leading to numerous attempts of inputting.


So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain gloves.
FunkiestMonkey04/12/2019 20:38

So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain …So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain gloves.


Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.

Never had a problem with ours apart from when the battery went low and we ignored it. After a couple years thoug the glass is pretty scratched and we dont know why as only fingertips go on it.
simonbrowne04/12/2019 20:50

Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a …Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a problem with ours apart from when the battery went low and we ignored it. After a couple years thoug the glass is pretty scratched and we dont know why as only fingertips go on it.


Bit like scratches near car handle. Nails innit
simonbrowne04/12/2019 20:50

Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a …Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a problem with ours apart from when the battery went low and we ignored it. After a couple years thoug the glass is pretty scratched and we dont know why as only fingertips go on it.


Cat burglar?
davidridge104/12/2019 21:02

Cat burglar?


so we are looking for a 6ft cat...... Ring doorbell hasnt picked that up. Maybe the cat moved very slowly.
simonbrowne04/12/2019 19:50

Guess its a good thing we dont live in the alps...


Is the poor sensitivity related to being in the Alps too?
man it is so cold tonight you feels like i am living in the alps
Have one of these - it's brilliant and hasn't let us down.

Tip though - hide a 9V battery somewhere (we have one in a key locker outside) - if it goes flat while you're out you'll need one to get in!
FunkiestMonkey04/12/2019 20:38

So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain …So to conclude, okay for this country and dont use with thick mountain gloves.


Nope this was crud in temps ranging across multiple seasons, on the valley floor.
& crud without gloves or mitts / being poked with drunken fingers.
Now showing as £84.67
I love it as my daughter use to loose the keys every other week, we dont have to worry about going out to the car, put the bins out in case the door lock.

You can also change the pin so if you go on holiday and get a dog sitter etc they can use a new pin and it can then be changed back once they are gone...or a workman etc. Of if a family member wants something we can walk them through opening the door over the phone, been useful when family members have turned up whilst we were out so they could let themselves in and make themselves some te.

Shame they use rubbish glass at the front...Thats my only gripe.
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Forgot to say you can use a touch card to enter if you want.
simonbrowne04/12/2019 20:50

Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a …Yep...This is hotukdeals website not icecoldalpsdeals website.Never had a problem with ours apart from when the battery went low and we ignored it. After a couple years thoug the glass is pretty scratched and we dont know why as only fingertips go on it.


Didn't say it was exclusively the cold, it was just completely cack, regardless of the weather, temperature, humidity level, season.

One was inside lower level one was outside, both failed along the same lines

Don't assume it was only operating in cold conditions ..fact is that any item wood metal that cools / heats up can hold a range of conditions (aluminium double glazing that is cold on the outside & has moisture reaction from the contrasting temperature) , ditto upvc doors, the metal on this chills its not overly protected on the inside, the battery isn't insulated so the whole thing gets sluggish. there is no raised thermal separator to help the components deal with heat / cold & the touch panel is weak.

For a lock selling itself as a modern smart design it also failed to sound off if left unlatched (open) over an extended period of time, which is handy for access & security when possibly bumbling through a doorway hands full or unfamiliar with the force needed on a particular door to ensure it seals properly.

Don't take it so personally, I'm commenting on experience with the design & performance of the kit, which if used in the penines / highlands / hills of wales/ cornwall / coastal regions get hit with colder localised weather & temperatures which may affect the unit in a region, uk & europe, that Yale have decided this is good for.

All temperatures cycle over 24 hours night & day ..so expect variations especially with wind chill.

The ratings on this via amazon are very very mixed.
I'd be more impressed if they just sold these with 18650 batteries which are hardier & more voltage stable over periods of traffic.
Edited by: "Mr_Gus" 5th Dec 2019
Mr_Gus05/12/2019 11:01

Didn't say it was cold, it was just completely cack, regardless of the …Didn't say it was cold, it was just completely cack, regardless of the weather, temperature, humidity level, season.


Shame you only mention the Alps then.

Mr_Gus05/12/2019 11:01

For a lock selling itself as a modern smart design it also failed to sound …For a lock selling itself as a modern smart design it also failed to sound off if left unlatched (open) over an extended period of time.


This is a retro fit door lock. It doesnt know the differece between open and closed. It smart as it can learn thing like new pin codes, one time codes, different pins for different people and be controlled via it various adapters on iphone etc to open the door remotely.

Mr_Gus05/12/2019 11:01

Don't assume it was only operating in cold conditions ..



You said "couldn't deal with cold," nothing else... So what am I supposed to assume?



Mines worked fine for at least 2 years. Maybe not artic weather but British rain, freezing cold etc has never been a problem.
cold as stated can mean temperature leached from whatever its attached to, wind, etc.

Cold can also mean the mechanics & battery combination (seeing as it runs primarily via electronics) or a combination of both & the added factor of the material it is adhered /fixed to.

The 4 AA batteries are susceptible to temperature, & combined with traffic & quality of battery may become part of the overall problem compared to bigger voltage capable better chemistry batteries that allow for a cushion of higher voltage & therefore voltage drop.

The manual stated that 4x AA (alkaline) were good for 10x use per day.
used in the store room (warm) conditions it was only marginally better than the ones outside which is why another property didn't run a bypass module for the battery operation on a short minimal loss cable to power the unit.

With Yale customer service it's hit & miss as to whether it was poor specced components bearing in mind both front & rear aspects of the unit are meant to be operational in a varied temp range of minus 15 C thru 55C even taking moisture levels into consideration.
simonbrowne05/12/2019 11:23

Shame you only mention the Alps then.This is a retro fit door lock. It …Shame you only mention the Alps then.This is a retro fit door lock. It doesnt know the differece between open and closed. It smart as it can learn thing like new pin codes, one time codes, different pins for different people and be controlled via it various adapters on iphone etc to open the door remotely.You said "couldn't deal with cold," nothing else... So what am I supposed to assume?Mines worked fine for at least 2 years. Maybe not artic weather but British rain, freezing cold etc has never been a problem.


Bear in mind that it already has the ability to beep, would have been sensible to factor that into the base design though door unlatched tone.
Mr_Gus05/12/2019 10:38

Nope this was crud in temps ranging across multiple seasons, on the …Nope this was crud in temps ranging across multiple seasons, on the valley floor.& crud without gloves or mitts / being poked with drunken fingers.


Lol
Mr_Gus05/12/2019 11:01

..........it also failed to sound off if left unlatched (open) over an …..........it also failed to sound off if left unlatched (open) over an extended period of time,


So you are complaining about it being faulty when it never said it did that in the first place. OK
simonbrowne05/12/2019 11:56

So you are complaining about it being faulty when it never said it did …So you are complaining about it being faulty when it never said it did that in the first place. OK


Nope but do a design job once & do it properly or make it half assed many a door is nudged shut (attempted anyway) because the person going through has hands full of stuff, a low tone to notify would be handy seeing as it already has a beeper for a variety of other reasons.
Mr_Gus05/12/2019 11:49

Bear in mind that it already has the ability to beep, would have been …Bear in mind that it already has the ability to beep, would have been sensible to factor that into the base design though door unlatched tone.


By itself it cannot see if a door is open or closed as the latch in either position would be "out" so would beep whether the door was open or shut. You are basically asking it to do something it was not designed to do witout adding a lot more expense to it.
Edited by: "simonbrowne" 5th Dec 2019
I have one of these. Absolutely brilliant. No more lost keys, snapped keys. Works flawlessly and I fit it myself within 30 minutes.
Easy to withdraw pin numbers so no worry of spare keys in circulation.
Can intergrate with alarm system and have access control data based on which pin was used and when.

Mine looks as good as new after over a year of use.
Edited by: "Phlop0" 5th Dec 2019
simonbrowne05/12/2019 12:04

By itself it cannot see if a door is open or closed as the latch in either …By itself it cannot see if a door is open or closed as the latch in either position would be "out" so would beep whether the door was open or shut. You are basically asking it to do something it was not designed to do.


something that could have easily been added making it smart-ER ..helps validate price-point when being marketed & sold as useful kit.
A fridge has a small beep / tone to signify the door is still open & temp is rising as a consequence, not hard to do with a door meant to make security tighter & more efficient.
This is meant to be a easy replacement for a barrel lock. You have compared it to a item that comes complete and designed from the scratch up so it has this functionality easily fitted. Yes they could include something like a magnetic switches that would then leave wire hanging out (Untidy job) and drilling to place the contacts in the wood (if you have a wood door) but this is not meant for that buyer who just want to change the old barrel lock over to a more modern one with smart function and have learnt how to shut a door behind them.
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