Zoostorm Desktop PC Zoostorm Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-4460 Haswell - 8GB RAM + 2TB HDD USB 3.0 - £349.98 @ Ebuyer
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Zoostorm Desktop PC Zoostorm Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-4460 Haswell - 8GB RAM + 2TB HDD USB 3.0 - £349.98 @ Ebuyer

£349.98Ebuyer Deals
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Found 18th May 2014
Clearly not for 'gaming' but as a standard office or home computer I've not seen anything better at this price point.

Intel Core i5-4460 3.2Ghz Haswell CPU, Max Turbo Frequency: 3.4Ghz, Cache: 6MB
8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM, Supports up to 16GB, 2 x DIMM sockets (1 Used)
2TB SATA HDD, DVDRW
No Operating System
Chipset: Intel H81
Intel HD 4600 Graphics
High Definition Audio, 5.1 channel
Realtek 10/100/1000 LAN
Power Supply: 250 watts
1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port
1 x D-Sub VGA Port
1 x DVI-D Port
4 x USB 2.0 Port
2 x USB 3.0 Port
1 x RJ-45 Port
3 x Audio Jacks

Expansion
1 x PCI-e x 16 Slot
2 x PCI-e x 1 Slots
2 x 3.5” Internal Bays (1 used)
1 x 5.25” External Bays (used)

Dimensions, Height: 360mm, Width: 375mm, Depth: 180mm
Case: mATX Tower Case
1 Year Collect and Return Warranty

Available for Pre-Order - not expired
- paul.crome

50 Comments

Again.... Someone will claim they can build it cheaper, but for those that can't be bothered this is a great deal, thanks!

Banned

Okay deal but package is missing an OS so really it will cost ~£400 if you had to buy one. (_;)

This is a good deal...need to get an updated one and this fit the bill

Is the 250 watt PSU a concern?

chapmania

Is the 250 watt PSU a concern?



No you could even add a gtx 750ti and it would be fine.

Price is OK at best, you can get a custom built one for less from DinoPC and other places.

Would avoid eBuyer though, they are not the company people once knew. Returns process is one of the worst in the UK.

chapmania

Is the 250 watt PSU a concern?


No Name PSU is always a concern.
Great processor but the rest is **** (motherboard, case, PSU, probably also RAM and HDD). And of course there is no grafic card (only older games and low resolution)

S'pose this could be suitable for a free Linux OS then?

250W PSU? what we're they thinking?

I have one of these and might be buying another for my workplace, definitely worth it!

Would this PC support 2 monitors?

Krinkle

S'pose this could be suitable for a free Linux OS then?



Absolutely it could

chapmania

Is the 250 watt PSU a concern?



Purchased one of these 5 months ago. Absolutely superb - no issues at all. However, I emailed tech support at ZooStorm, regarding adding a graphics card and whether or not the PSU would be up to it and was advised that it would be prudent to change it. Very easy to do so - nothing more than a 15 min job.

keepitonthelow

No you could even add a gtx 750ti and it would be fine.


Nvidia's recommended minimum for the 750 Ti is 300W. Considering this is some cheap, off-brand PSU in addition to that, I'd say plugging a decent GPU into it would be a recipe for disaster.

Aretak

Nvidia's recommended minimum for the 750 Ti is 300W. Considering this is … Nvidia's recommended minimum for the 750 Ti is 300W. Considering this is some cheap, off-brand PSU in addition to that, I'd say plugging a decent GPU into it would be a recipe for disaster.



The 750 Ti is a power-efficient video card that consumes a mere 60W.

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How much power you really need below.

youtube.com/wat…v4A
youtube.com/wat…fI4

Edited by: "keepitonthelow" 18th May 2014

keepitonthelow

The 750 Ti is a power-efficient video card that consumes a mere 60W.


Almost 70W according to that chart. So let's be generous and assume that this cheap PSU can deliver 75% efficiency (since there's no mention of it being 80+ rated, and it won't be), that's around 187W you have to work with. The i5's TDP is 84W, so that's around 152W for your CPU and GPU alone, before factoring in any other hardware.

Anyone who'd recommend running a cheap, non-branded PSU that close to its limits doesn't have a person's best interests at heart, or simply doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.

This is not a gaming PC. Only buy it if you intend on browsing the web and playing Facebook games or whatever normal people do. Infact, just get an iPad.

this would be good if they didnt have a crap graphics card
Edited by: "jasoncardoz52" 18th May 2014

This is pure rubbish without OS for £350. I like how they claim Graphics, they must tell that Graphic is integrated in CPU. 250W PSU wouldn't allow you to insert any more or less suitable graphics card. My dislike to this.

Aretak

assume that this cheap PSU can deliver 75% efficiency (since there's no … assume that this cheap PSU can deliver 75% efficiency (since there's no mention of it being 80+ rated, and it won't be), that's around 187W you have to work with.



PSUs are rated on their output not input. It'll provide 250W and draw 1/0.75 * 250 = 333W.

People and their strong opinions......

Bought a Zoostorm PC from Argos last month (similar to spec above but had had Windows 8 and a i3 processor) and happy with it (mostly use it for general use e.g Internet, office programs ect). Took a little while to get used to Windows 8 but I think I have changed the options to work more or less how I want now.

EndlessWaves

PSUs are rated on their output not input. It'll provide 250W and draw … PSUs are rated on their output not input. It'll provide 250W and draw 1/0.75 * 250 = 333W.



Hahahahahaaha beat me to it.
That smart-ass kid needs to learn what he's talking about before he gets into big-boy arguments.

Wow! There are a lot of stupid comments here... Smh!

Original Poster

Maybe I should have added in the post (I thought it was pretty obvious) that this is clearly not intended for anyone who wants to do any 'gaming'. As an office PC for standard work and internet this will be great (coupled with a cheap ssd). If you want a gaming PC this is not for you but that is no reason to vote it cold - vote for it based on what it is intended for standard home or office use.

ben38sufc

Hahahahahaaha beat me to it.That smart-ass kid needs to learn what he's … Hahahahahaaha beat me to it.That smart-ass kid needs to learn what he's talking about before he gets into big-boy arguments.



While he was wrong he highlighted a more likely scenario of useable power. Do most people need huge amounts of amps on the 3.3v rail? No. The 12v rail is the important. This 300w PSU only supplies 180w on the 12v rail. This 250w probably less. So while it will probably cope with a 750ti it will be getting near its limits often. This will degrade the components and Max the fan out killing the PSU quicker than expected.

A quality PSU should be able to supply over 90% of its output on its 12v rail.

splitstrim

This is pure rubbish without OS for £350. I like how they claim Graphics, … This is pure rubbish without OS for £350. I like how they claim Graphics, they must tell that Graphic is integrated in CPU. 250W PSU wouldn't allow you to insert any more or less suitable graphics card. My dislike to this.



So if this is "rubbish" please link to some better deals for a brand new desktop PC with a 4th gen. i5, 8GB of RAM and 2TB HDD for 350 quid then!

I know this might come as a shock to many on HUKD but some of us DON'T USE PCs FOR GAMING AND DON'T NEED FANCY 3D GRAPHICS!!!!

Aretak

Almost 70W according to that chart. So let's be generous and assume that … Almost 70W according to that chart. So let's be generous and assume that this cheap PSU can deliver 75% efficiency (since there's no mention of it being 80+ rated, and it won't be), that's around 187W you have to work with. The i5's TDP is 84W, so that's around 152W for your CPU and GPU alone, before factoring in any other hardware.Anyone who'd recommend running a cheap, non-branded PSU that close to its limits doesn't have a person's best interests at heart, or simply doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.



Adding together your parts' TDP is no measure of actual power draw. The actual chances of you maxing CPU and GPU simultaneously are quite remote as during gaming you're usually either bottlenecked by one or the other. Just one example off the top of my head from a recent GTX 750 Ti review:

eurogamer.net/art…iew

"At this point we decided to measure our system's power draw - and it's here that the GTX 750 Ti's advantage is really felt. On the scripted sequence at the end of Welcome to the Jungle (2:55 in the video), we see a range of graphics and physics at work - a brutal workout for both CPU and GPU. Turning v-sync off to run the game simulation as fast as the system can handle it, we saw a max power spike of 148W, but with an average of around 135W. This is quite remarkable - we're running a Core i7-3770K overclocked to 4.3GHz in addition to the GTX 750 Ti, and we're seeing power consumption in line with PlayStation 4."

The reality is of course that while the CPU may be OCed to 4.3GHz, chances are it's running lower as the GPU is the bottleneck. But anyway - a non-OC capable quad plus a GTX 750 Ti is *entirely possible* on a 250W PSU. In fact, it's exactly this market that the card is designed for.

nerds behave - I have working in the computer industry for over 25 years and I have never heard so much nonsense in all my life.
The deal is hot but the hobbyists banging on about PCU outputs sounds like FS players talking about real flying :P

acogshot

This is not a gaming PC. Only buy it if you intend on browsing the web … This is not a gaming PC. Only buy it if you intend on browsing the web and playing Facebook games or whatever normal people do. Infact, just get an iPad.



LMAO :D. Funniest comment so far.

splitstrim

This is pure rubbish without OS for £350. I like how they claim Graphics, … This is pure rubbish without OS for £350. I like how they claim Graphics, they must tell that Graphic is integrated in CPU. 250W PSU wouldn't allow you to insert any more or less suitable graphics card. My dislike to this.



It's perfectly priced because an OS can be had for nothing. With regards to the graphics you should take note of other comments for suggestions on suitable cards.

usetheforceluke

nerds behave - I have working in the computer industry for over 25 years … nerds behave - I have working in the computer industry for over 25 years and I have never heard so much nonsense in all my life. The deal is hot but the hobbyists banging on about PCU outputs sounds like FS players talking about real flying :P



I scoff at your 'working in the computer industry for over 25 years' in the same way doubt the credibility of the people in this thread (or of FS players). I'll remember to come to you if I want some tips in stacking pallets of calculators.
Edited by: "omgpleasespamme" 18th May 2014

omgpleasespamme

I scoff at your 'working in the computer industry for over 25 years' in … I scoff at your 'working in the computer industry for over 25 years' in the same way doubt the credibility of the people in this thread (or of FS players). I'll remember to come to you if I want some tips in stacking pallets of calculators.



unlike the rest of you nerds I worked in R&D for a large international computer manufacture and never encounter the nerdy comments I see everytime a PC or laptop is listed.

Nerds behave was the right thing to say otherwise pretty soon we'd have nerds vs those that heard about computers from a bloke in the pub having a fight in the toilets of HUKD and then it all goes downhill pretty quickly.

And believe me, I'm qualified to make these comments as I've read several books on the subject of nerds fighting people who think they know about everything.


Edited by: "spannerzone" 18th May 2014

If you are upgrading this with a graphics card
You will need to update the psu.
The ones on these are crap
I'm on my second one

Can anyone recommend the cheapest desktop to play Elder Scrolls Online with no problems?

I quite liked the Elite 4590 Mesh are selling for £479. You can swap Windows 8.1 for Windows 7 Home.

Stylish Mini Tower Black Ops Black Interier Case (Mesh 3364)
400W Desktop Power Supply
MSI B85M-E45 Intel® B85 uATX Motherboard
New 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-4590 Quad Core Processor (3.7GHz, 6MB Cache)
8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory (2x4GB) Kit
Integrated Intel® Full HD 4600 Graphics
1TB SATA III 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64Mb Cache, 8ms Hard Drive
24x DVD Writer (read/write CD & DVD)
5.1 High Definition onboard sound card - 6 Channel Cinema sound
High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Microsoft Windows® 8.1 - 64 bit inc. DVD & Licence
Standard Warranty - (1 Year Parts, Lifetime Labour,1 Month Collect & Return)

No OS - so no garantee anything will work

Wow some of the comments on here are laughable. The one above being one of the most laughable.

Wow some of the comments on here are laughable. The one above being one of the most laughable.

Banned

acogshot

This is not a gaming PC. Only buy it if you intend on browsing the web … This is not a gaming PC. Only buy it if you intend on browsing the web and playing Facebook games or whatever normal people do. Infact, just get an iPad.



Agreed. Add a half decent gfx card and a beefier PSU though and its a gaming rig. Wouldn't cost much.
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