Found 27th Jul 2010
I've just sold my phone on eBay and at the last minute a person with 0 feedback won the item.Normally I wouldn't be bothered but I've heard stories about scam with claiming paypal money back ect..

Shoul I be weary?

36 Comments

absolutely

If their paypal account is unconfirmed then id accept another form of payment. Such as bank transfer

Original Poster

Well his email address seems odd so I search him on Facebook lol. He's not English. He has paid through paypal.

I wouldnt risk it if you have doubts

What value was the item

lindauk

Well his email address seems odd so I search him on Facebook lol. He's … Well his email address seems odd so I search him on Facebook lol. He's not English. He has paid through paypal.



I would have a little more comfort that he has facebook linked to the email, cos usually it'll be a disposable email address. Is it to a UK address?

Original Poster

Came to £167 with postage. Yeah it is an UK address somewhere in London

i say leave it.

relist and make sure they have at least 5 feedback
Edited by: "golemsmate" 27th Jul 2010

if your really genuinely worried, take pics of the item just before u post it and make sure its signed for etc and that u have proof of delivery

send it recoeded deliverlyer and up the insurance then email buyer and ask them to pay extra for insurance and postage because of there feedback. Then u will have prof of them receciveing and also if lost you can claim back off post office either way you are covered

lindauk

somewhere in London



Via West of Cameroon

Be careful. I sold an iPhone to a buyer with 22 feedbacks and his email was linked to facebook. It was brand new and sealed however when he received it he opened dispute saying item wasn't as described and returned it to me. What I received was infact an iPhone in box I sent however it was a used iPhone that had been blocked. He had even forgot to remove all his details from it. I called him and he basically laughed at me down the phone and said thanks for his new phone. I called police who were helpful until they realised they don't deal with eBay now. I called paypal who took details of crime reference etc but after 2 days they refunded him as I couldn't get a written police statement which police can't do as don't deal with eBay. I lost £400 and it has put me off eBay for life.

I'd ask for a postal order payment instead, not a bank transfer or cheque, or end the sale based on their lack of ebay history especially if their PP account is not confirmed & verified (2 different important matters with Paypal).

If you do decide to send it make a note of the phone's IMEI number and photograph it in detail. If anything untoward does come about at least you can report it to the Police and have it blocked from UK use.

morganpink08- The Police don't deal with ebay anymore, since when? Is this local constabularly thing or a new thing since the coalition. Isn't what you experienced classed as theft / fraud since when do the Police not investigate such crimes.

Original Poster

Thanks for the comments everyone. I have cancelled the transaction and refunded him the money. Better safe than sorry.

Unfortunately photos don't help either as I also had these along with proof of imei number showing on my receipt with address. I asked police if I should block the IMEI and was told if I did I was commiting an offence as it was no longer my iPhone. Even though I'd not been paid for it as money had been refunded by paypal. I then classed it as stolen in my eyes but police said that it wouldn't be classed as stolen and I couldn't block the IMEI. I personally would refund money and ask for payment via another method.

I'd look for another way to sell the phone. ebay is notorious for this kind of thing.

PS "Shoul I be weary?"

Dunno - depends how much exercise you've done today !

simplyjimbo - unfortunately it seems to be a new thing as the police officer who was dealing with it didn't even know until he requested information from another officer and then he was told that police couldn't get involved now with eBay cases. I also called the local police station were the buyer lived and they told me straight away that they don't deal with eBay cases. Instead there's a special place in London which is for eBay/Internet fraud centre and they deal with it. I did call them but never got an answer. I'm currently looking into legal action as it's a lot of Money to lose.

lindauk - I think you have done the best thing by refunding.

Original Poster

morganpink08 - It's awful what happened to you. Its a shame that there is people out there set to rip people off.

tallpete33 - Damn I thought I'd got away with my miss spelling haha

lindauk - it is more annoying than anything as I would of prefarred to give the iPhone away rather than be scammed.

Original Poster

morganpink08

lindauk - it is more annoying than anything as I would of prefarred to … lindauk - it is more annoying than anything as I would of prefarred to give the iPhone away rather than be scammed.



I don't understand how they could get away with it when you took pics and had proof. Just shows crime does pay. Honest people are left out of pocket!

morgan - im so sorry to hear about your experience! Wont paypal do anything? Couldnt you show them the stolen imei and use that to prove you were sent another phone back? If I was in your position I would be livid.

If not get a few guys and go round to his place and wait for him. It'd be all he deserves!!

morganpink08

Be careful. I sold an iPhone to a buyer with 22 feedbacks and his email … Be careful. I sold an iPhone to a buyer with 22 feedbacks and his email was linked to facebook. It was brand new and sealed however when he received it he opened dispute saying item wasn't as described and returned it to me. What I received was infact an iPhone in box I sent however it was a used iPhone that had been blocked. He had even forgot to remove all his details from it. I called him and he basically laughed at me down the phone and said thanks for his new phone. I called police who were helpful until they realised they don't deal with eBay now. I called paypal who took details of crime reference etc but after 2 days they refunded him as I couldn't get a written police statement which police can't do as don't deal with eBay. I lost £400 and it has put me off eBay for life.



I feel for you but at thee same time it's a little hard to sympathise with anyone selling a high value phone on ebay. Did you not notice all the high value phones in completed listings sold to zero/low feedback buyers who are 'no longer registered with ebay'? And if you did didn't it put you off?

deek72

I feel for you but at thee same time it's a little hard to sympathise … I feel for you but at thee same time it's a little hard to sympathise with anyone selling a high value phone on ebay. Did you not notice all the high value phones in completed listings sold to zero/low feedback buyers who are 'no longer registered with ebay'? And if you did didn't it put you off?



That doesn't happen when you set buyer requirements properly

I sell high value phones all the time on ebay,some have no feedback,some very littlle,haven't had any major probs

grabbit

That doesn't happen when you set buyer requirements properlyI sell high … That doesn't happen when you set buyer requirements properlyI sell high value phones all the time on ebay,some have no feedback,some very littlle,haven't had any major probs



So what do you do then? I just happen to have a brand new high value phone that I'm about to sell. Was going to offer it on here tomorrow as I've been looking on ebay and all the potential rip offs have put me off totally.

deek72

So what do you do then? I just happen to have a brand new high value … So what do you do then? I just happen to have a brand new high value phone that I'm about to sell. Was going to offer it on here tomorrow as I've been looking on ebay and all the potential rip offs have put me off totally.



Just set up buyer requirements,such as credit card on file etc and most importantlly ensure it's sent trackable

those scammers don't/prob cant bid on mine,been doing it years and seem to avoid the scammers

Banned

morganpink08

Unfortunately photos don't help either as I also had these along with … Unfortunately photos don't help either as I also had these along with proof of imei number showing on my receipt with address. I asked police if I should block the IMEI and was told if I did I was commiting an offence as it was no longer my iPhone. Even though I'd not been paid for it as money had been refunded by paypal. I then classed it as stolen in my eyes but police said that it wouldn't be classed as stolen and I couldn't block the IMEI. I personally would refund money and ask for payment via another method.



Thats rubbish, it is stolen. Report it and get the imei blocked, whats the buyer going to do? Call the police?

Banned

lindauk

Thanks for the comments everyone. I have cancelled the transaction and … Thanks for the comments everyone. I have cancelled the transaction and refunded him the money. Better safe than sorry.


why? everyone starts somewhere and if paid using confirmed paypal address, then its safe for you.

So with you refunding the buyer, doesnt that mean you are now going to be hit with fees still?

Ebay will be wanting £16 and Paypal will of took about £15.

morganpink08

Unfortunately photos don't help either as I also had these along with … Unfortunately photos don't help either as I also had these along with proof of imei number showing on my receipt with address. I asked police if I should block the IMEI and was told if I did I was commiting an offence as it was no longer my iPhone. Even though I'd not been paid for it as money had been refunded by paypal. I then classed it as stolen in my eyes but police said that it wouldn't be classed as stolen and I couldn't block the IMEI. I personally would refund money and ask for payment via another method.



Block it anyway.

What is the guy going to do, complain that you blocked a phone he supposedly sent back to you?

hippyharry

So with you refunding the buyer, doesnt that mean you are now going to be … So with you refunding the buyer, doesnt that mean you are now going to be hit with fees still?Ebay will be wanting £16 and Paypal will of took about £15.



If the refund was done properly the paypal fees would have automatically been cancelled,for the ebay fees the seller is going to have to hope the buyer agrees to a mutual cancellation of sale

Morganpink - what offence are you commiting if your blocking your own phone, he send you your phone back do block the damn thing and stop him laughing!!

Original Poster


[/quote]If the refund was done properly the paypal fees would have automatically been cancelled,for the ebay fees the seller is going to have to hope the buyer agrees to a mutual cancellation of sale[/quote]

Paypal fees have been cancelled. Also if he doesnt agree within 7 days to cancel the transaction I can do it and I will get my fees back

lindauk

If the refund was done properly the paypal fees would have automatically been cancelled,for the ebay fees the seller is going to have to hope the buyer agrees to a mutual cancellation of sale[/quote]Paypal fees have been cancelled. Also if he doesnt agree within 7 days to cancel the transaction I can do it and I will get my fees back[/quote]

Yes,if he doesn't respond to the request for cancellation you will get ebay fees back,but if he does respond and ticks the option that he didnt want to cancel the transaction,which is true,the fees will stand
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text
    Top Discussions
    1. Suggest tablet replacement for a Lenovo Yoga 2 8.034
    2. Xbox Newbie35
    3. Building a PC Need Help!611
    4. School shoes - with lights11

    See more discussions