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Aw, raptor :friends:

Hope thing's improve for you soon x x

I hope your luck gets better for Christmas :santa:

That rotten that is - you are having "one of those weeks" by the sounds of things x

If it was me I woulda ran over the heads foot, teach them a lesson.

Isn't that discrimination - go to the papers and kick up a fuss! Get the head named and shamed!

crd67;3734316

Isn't that discrimination - go to the papers and kick up a fuss! Get the … Isn't that discrimination - go to the papers and kick up a fuss! Get the head named and shamed!



agreed i'm sure the local press would love a story like that

Banned

I wouldne be happy either but u can go above the headmaster find out who ur local mp is or even go to the school board on this one go above him and make it clear u felt as if u were being isolated for u haven to use ur scooter xxx

and the reason was?

Dangerous things in the wrong hands them scooters, perhaps he thought you may be scooter jacked.

tracy013;3734349

agreed i'm sure the local press would love a story like that



Or try "this morning" ;-)

Thing is it's gone now, never gone see it for all the stink you make.

May teach them for the future tho.

You forgot to mention your keyboard broke as well ;-)

raptorcigs;3734560

THE HALL WAS FULL.IM NOT ONE FOR MAKING WAVES BUT ------I MIGHT



Thats really tight bet you were gutted :x

Then what was the issue? The hall was full and you would have likely caused a hazard on a motability scooter. Next time I would call the school ahead of the event and state your requirements. Schools have invested millions in disabled access in the last 5 to 10 years and it is not wasted; the head was simply using common sense and basic health and safety considerations.

actually check with the school to see if they have disabled access and if not complain to county hall about t he lack of access

raptorcigs;3734617

I HAVE A PROB I TYPE WITH ONE FINGER AS OTHER HAND MOST DAYS WONT WORK … I HAVE A PROB I TYPE WITH ONE FINGER AS OTHER HAND MOST DAYS WONT WORK PROPERLY AND SOME DAYS I USE A WAND GLOVE



I was joking so stop trying to make me feel bad I meant the CAPS LOCK

raptorcigs;3734640

THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN … THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN AND ALL THE KIDS WERE ON THE STAGE



The hall does not feed 1200 kids in one sitting. If that is the case then you should have calmly said "I don't believe it is, what is the problem?" and then it either would have been explained to you or it would have been reconsidered. Not a single head that I know would do that, there is too much to lose.

raptorcigs;3734640

THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN … THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN AND ALL THE KIDS WERE ON THE STAGE




ask school who the governors are then and also complain to county hall or your local authority as there was obviously plenty of room and also ask head to clarify reason for refusal of entry.

i would of threatened to go to the papers and tell them my tale i reckon that he would have let you in as xmas is special 1st time an all

raptorcigs;3734723

DONT FEEL BAD PLEASE :? I DONT



Ok I won't

but complain to school or ask for in writing the reason for you to be excluded from seeing son

raptorcigs;3734640

YOU WANNA SEE ME TOKYO DRIFT ROUND THE ISLES AT LIDL WHEN THEY MOP



Sorry Rap I know yer having a cack week but this made me laugh alot and the picture in my mind is fab!!!!

awww raptor your week sounds like my last 6 months only at least yours is just one week up til now!

As for the mobility scooter business i think its bang out or order and if it were me i would of piped up

cheer up buddy things can only get better

(well i keep wondering when but im sure they will!)

So far this week ive had my shed burgled,the water pump on my car has had it and im waiting for the 3rd thing lol

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raptorcigs;3734929

OH JEBUS THE MICROWAVE JUST DIED:viking:THE PLASTIC CATCH HAS BROKE OFF

:w00t:oh cripes youre not having much luck are ya

raptor i think your being a bit sensitive there with pghstochaj, i think it was wrong of the head and you should of questioned him/her if there was genuinely room, im sure no one wanted you to miss it, no need for the nastiness we are all entitled to opinions, no one said you were dangerous

raptorcigs;3734990

YES YOU ARE RIGHT I PUBLICALY APPOLOGISE AND WILL UNBLOCK … YES YOU ARE RIGHT I PUBLICALY APPOLOGISE AND WILL UNBLOCK PGHSTOCHAJ,PGHSTOCHAJ IM SORRY:gift:



:stocking::gift::santa: merry christmas

:thumbsup:

raptorcigs;3734640

THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN … THE HALL FEEDS 1200 KIDS AT DINNERTHERE WERE 22 PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN AND ALL THE KIDS WERE ON THE STAGEIVE BEEN A CRIP FOR ABOUT 8 YEARS AND MY SCOOTER IS PART OF ME NOW I KNOW ITS LIMITATIONS VERY WELL AND ALSO MY WHEELCHAIRYOU WANNA SEE ME TOKYO DRIFT ROUND THE ISLES AT LIDL WHEN THEY MOP


So what did the head actually say and what did you say back? It seems ridiculous if there were only 22 adults in the hall and the kids were all on the stage.
Tokyo Drift - yes please, post a vid!!
Some weeks are designated by FATE as being very trying indeed, not to mention costly. :x
Onwards and upwards. :santa:

raptorcigs;3735253

THE HEAD SAID "YOU CANNOT GO IN THER WITH THAT"I SAID NO PROB IM DISABLED … THE HEAD SAID "YOU CANNOT GO IN THER WITH THAT"I SAID NO PROB IM DISABLED PLEASE GET ME A WHEEL CHAIR,HE THEN JUST LEFT WITHOUT A WORD I HAD TO ASK ANOTHER SCHOOL OP TO GO GET MY CHILD SHE CAME BACK AND SAID YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT WHILE HE GETS HIS CHRISTMAS PRESSENT FROM SANTASO THEN I SPENT HALF AN HOUR FREEZING MY ASS OFF THINKING OF HIM PULLING SANTAS BEARD OFF



Oooh don't thats really bad - feel like going down there myself and shouting at them !!!!

raptorcigs;3734848

SO SHOULD I BE TAKEN OF THE ROAD AS OBVEOUSLY IM A SERIOUS DANGER TO THE … SO SHOULD I BE TAKEN OF THE ROAD AS OBVEOUSLY IM A SERIOUS DANGER TO THE PUBLIC ACCORDING TO YOUAND THEN WATE FOR A GOVERMENT OFFICIAL TO EXPLAIN HOW TO WIRE A PLUGYOU ARE GOING TO BE NO. 4 THIS WEEK.IF YOU HAVE DIFICULTY READING BETWEEN THE LINES AND BEING AN OBJECTIVE ASS THEN YOU ARE BLOCKED:x



I didn't realise you expected everybody to be "yes" people.

raptorcigs;3735253

THE HEAD SAID "YOU CANNOT GO IN THER WITH THAT"I SAID NO PROB IM DISABLED … THE HEAD SAID "YOU CANNOT GO IN THER WITH THAT"I SAID NO PROB IM DISABLED PLEASE GET ME A WHEEL CHAIR,HE THEN JUST LEFT WITHOUT A WORD I HAD TO ASK ANOTHER SCHOOL OP TO GO GET MY CHILD SHE CAME BACK AND SAID YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT WHILE HE GETS HIS CHRISTMAS PRESSENT FROM SANTASO THEN I SPENT HALF AN HOUR FREEZING MY ASS OFF THINKING OF HIM PULLING SANTAS BEARD OFF



That doesn't seem right to me. What on earth was the head thinking? I think that a letter to the local eduction authority, copied to the head and the governors is in order, so that you can have the same access as other parents in the future and clarify exactly how that can be achieved.
Did you literally have to wait outside in the cold??

pghstochaj;3735306

I didn't realise you expected everybody to be "yes" people.


Did you not see this reply?
raptorcigs;3734990

YES YOU ARE RIGHT I PUBLICALY APPOLOGISE AND WILL UNBLOCK … YES YOU ARE RIGHT I PUBLICALY APPOLOGISE AND WILL UNBLOCK PGHSTOCHAJ,PGHSTOCHAJ IM SORRY:gift:

chesso;3735329

Did you not see this reply?



Yes, but my points stand; the head of a 1200 pupil school would not have done it without a fairly decent and legitimate reason - of which there are many. They are required to be very well versed with the DDA, health and safety regulations and basic politeness. It is likely to be a more complex issue than is provided here or a basic misunderstanding.

Personally if I was disabled I would have questioned the decision and ensured the reasons for it were legitimate (if I had any reason to doubt them). If I was not happy, I would be on the phone to the Head in the morning expecting a full explanation and if one was not provided, request the contact details of the Chair of the Governers. That way a duly made review of what happened would be complete.

As I said however, no Head I know would be that silly as to open themselves up to (potentially gross) negligence; especially not a head of such a large school. Although I have sympathy that the event was missed, I find the limited information given and the context a little difficult to believe.

pghstochaj;3734590

Then what was the issue? The hall was full and you would have likely … Then what was the issue? The hall was full and you would have likely caused a hazard on a motability scooter. Next time I would call the school ahead of the event and state your requirements. Schools have invested millions in disabled access in the last 5 to 10 years and it is not wasted; the head was simply using common sense and basic health and safety considerations.



pghstochaj;3735384

Yes, but my points stand; the head of a 1200 pupil school would not have … Yes, but my points stand; the head of a 1200 pupil school would not have done it without a fairly decent and legitimate reason - of which there are many. They are required to be very well versed with the DDA, health and safety regulations and basic politeness. It is likely to be a more complex issue than is provided here or a basic misunderstanding.Personally if I was disabled I would have questioned the decision and ensured the reasons for it were legitimate (if I had any reason to doubt them). If I was not happy, I would be on the phone to the Head in the morning expecting a full explanation and if one was not provided, request the contact details of the Chair of the Governers. That way a duly made review of what happened would be complete.As I said however, no Head I know would be that silly as to open themselves up to (potentially gross) negligence; especially not a head of such a large school. Although I have sympathy that the event was missed, I find the limited information given and the context a little difficult to believe.



Can you see how your first post was rather agressive in making assumptions?
The tone and content of your second is more measured and helpful, although I feel you have made some statements which I have highlighted in bold which may be open to discussion. As you can see my response was not very different to your second excepting that I believed raptorcig's version of the events.

chesso;3735316

That doesn't seem right to me. What on earth was the head thinking? I … That doesn't seem right to me. What on earth was the head thinking? I think that a letter to the local eduction authority, copied to the head and the governors is in order, so that you can have the same access as other parents in the future and clarify exactly how that can be achieved.Did you literally have to wait outside in the cold??



If you had seen the apology surely there was no need to make this remark.

pghstochaj: I didn't realise you expected everybody to be "yes" people.

chesso;3735463

Can you see how your first post was rather agressive in making … Can you see how your first post was rather agressive in making assumptions?The tone and content of your second is more measured and helpful, although I feel you have made some statements which I have highlighted in bold which may be open to discussion. As you can see my response was not very different to your second excepting that I believed raptorcig's version of the events.If you had seen the apology surely there was no need to make this remark.



The remark was relevant against the comment which was still there. I don't agree I was agressive, just disagreeing. It is also not open to discussion whether or not the heads "I know" would do this sort of thing; they wouldn't. I would never take one side of information and take it as fact, especially if it sounds a little unlikely.

raptorcigs;3735458

RIGHT ON OUR FIRST MEETING AT THE SCHOOL WHY WAS IT OK FOR HIM TO LET ME … RIGHT ON OUR FIRST MEETING AT THE SCHOOL WHY WAS IT OK FOR HIM TO LET ME IN TO THE SAME ROOM WITH THE SAME PEOPLE AND HE EVEN OPEND THE DISABLED DOOR FOR ME LAST TIME,EXPLAIN THAT



How do you expect me to explain that, I was not there? However, I can presume that there was a reason which meant the Head refused you access this time since he did not refuse it last night. Regardless, I would have simply questionned the Head at the time and explained it was not an issue previously when you came and what is different on this occasion. Maybe I am missing something but it seems you just accpeted what was said and waited outside?

raptor i lub you :friends:

pghstochaj;3734590

Then what was the issue? [COLOR="DarkRed"]The hall was full [/COLOR]and … Then what was the issue? [COLOR="DarkRed"]The hall was full [/COLOR]and you would have [COLOR="darkred"]likely caused a hazard on a motability scooter. [/COLOR]Next time I would call the school ahead of the event and state your requirements. Schools have invested millions in disabled access in the last 5 to 10 years and it is not wasted; [COLOR="darkred"]the head was simply using common sense and basic health and safety considerations[/COLOR].



pghstochaj;3735479

The remark was relevant against the comment which was still there. I … The remark was relevant against the comment which was still there. I don't agree I was agressive, just disagreeing. It is also not open to discussion whether or not the heads "I know" would do this sort of thing; they wouldn't. I would never take one side of information and take it as fact, especially if it sounds a little unlikely.



I said

your first post was rather agressive in making assumptions?

not that you were beng agressive. I have highlighted in red the relevant assumptions. I would say that anyone in the world can make a mistake and find it unlikely that the heads of your personal acquaintance are infallible.


pghstochaj;3735491

How do you expect me to explain that, I was not there? … How do you expect me to explain that, I was not there? However,[COLOR="darkred"] I can presume that there was a reason which meant the Head refused you access this time since he did not refuse it last night[/COLOR]. Regardless, I would have simply questionned the Head at the time and explained it was not an issue previously when you came and what is different on this occasion. Maybe I am missing something but it seems you just accpeted what was said and waited outside?



You are you and you are clearly more than capable of questioning and explaining and making presumptions. Others are less confident perhaps or the situatioin evolved rapidly???

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Raptor - I think what happened today at your little'un's school, based on what you say was truly diabolical.:x:x

And I'm not a 'yes man' by the way.

To put it blunt, the headteacher needs a good kicking. However, you have to rise above these ill-informed jobsworths & as you know, keep ahead of them.

I would sincerely encourage you to take this further as per Chesso's advice. if the headteacher was stressed, mistaken, whatever, that's no excuse. It was no examlpe to set to his pupils & above all, isn't that sort of discrimination immoral & illegal?

Just say you being there in your chair was a health & safety risk, (and I'm not saying it was or wasn't cos I wasnt there either) then these days that is for the school to cater for. It was only a year or 2 ago that all businesses had to install ramps etc by law for disabled access & I am sure that this would apply to schools as well.

I would definitely take it further, but chill out a bit at the same time.

A chomp ain't a true chomp when yer angry!!!

Col.
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