4K Streamer: Roku Streaming Stick+ Vs Amazon Fire TV or Other?

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Found 10th JunEdited by:"Derek_Horatio_Shatwell"
I've been asked to buy a 4K streaming stick to replace a regular Amazon Firestick.
The devices I've found are the ones in the title.

Which would you recommend from the two or is there something better that's about the same price?

They want it for the UK TV catch up services, YouTube, Amazon Prime and maybe Kodi. Plus 4K rips playback.
They don't have Netflix etc.
I've heard that Kodi is blocked on the Roku, but I'm not sure about the Firestick or if there's a way around the block. But that's secondary at this moment in time.

I'm not sure if their TV can playback 4K rips by just plugging in a HDD or not.
Please advise if they'd need to get an Android Box to do that.

The TV is a Samsung UE40MU6400 if that makes any difference.


** EDIT **
The max download speed is 3.5MB/s
Is that good enough for streaming Amazon Prime 4K content?
Is it possible to "download" Prime content to either the Firestick or Roku to watch it, to bypass any buffering problems?


Thank you for any advice.
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To Jailbreak a device, is to modify it to remove restrictions imposed by the manufacturer. In this case, it would be to install, or sideload, unsupported apps such as Kodi. This can be achieved using various methods documented across the internet.

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Most, if not all of the generations of the Fire TV devices can have Kodi installed via various methods, but doing so may invalidate the warranty on your device, or cause unexpected behaviour such as crashing, or even worse the device failing to work. We suggest you research heavily on how to do this safely before attempting it.

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Connectivity and performance = latest Amazon Fire box, other credible Android box (check Prime compatibility) or Nvidia Shield, all ideally connected by cable to internet source. All other options are compromises, but where the compromises may be acceptable to the user. Amazon Prime Video streaming requires a stable minimum 3.5 megabits per second connection (be realististic: any real-word 3.5 megabit per second connection needs overhead and will additionally likely be diluted by other users using same network) amazon.co.uk/gp/…810 . Yes you can download Amazon Prime Video content amazon.co.uk/gp/…820 . Amazon Prime 4k video streaming requires minimum 15 megabits per second connection.
Random info:
4k "ripped" content on a 40" screen? There really is no visible resolution benefit over 1080p unless the viewer sits so close to the TV that they are kneecapping themselves on the TV stand. 4k monitor applications OK.
Netflix has more demanding requirements than Amazon Prime streaming. NF HD requires a minimum stable connection of 5 megabits per second and NF 4k requires a stable minumum 25 megabits per second connection (I used words cos meg / Mb / MB abreviations may imply different interpretation to different people). help.netflix.com/en/…306 . Yes you can download Netflix content help.netflix.com/en/…816
I have a Mecool M8S Pro + Android box (can't post a link as I've just discovered Bang_good are banned) - I've managed to get a version of the Prime app to work but am aware that it won't work on all Android boxes - I think @chocci has the M8S Pro box and could not get the same App version to work.

So if Prime is essential I'd avoid a run of the mill Android box unless some can advise otherwise.

Also a recent relevant discussion here with some comments on a Roku device - hotukdeals.com/dis…434
Van197317 m ago

I have a Mecool M8S Pro + Android box (can't post a link as I've just …I have a Mecool M8S Pro + Android box (can't post a link as I've just discovered Bang_good are banned) - I've managed to get a version of the Prime app to work but am aware that it won't work on all Android boxes - I think @chocci has the M8S Pro box and could not get the same App version to work.So if Prime is essential I'd avoid a run of the mill Android box unless some can advise otherwise.Also a recent relevant discussion here with some comments on a Roku device - https://www.hotukdeals.com/discussions/smart-tv-box-stick-which-one-2950434


Can you get stremio working on Mecool M8S? or is it a blank screen with audio?
Can't remember - will have a play sometime tomorrow and let you know.

I do get that with the iplayer app - blank screen and audio. Also had the same problem intermitantly with various versions of the Prime app until I managed to get one that works.
** EDIT **
The max download speed is 3.5MB/s
Is that good enough for streaming Amazon Prime 4K content?
Is it possible to "download" Prime content to either the Firestick or Roku to watch it, to bypass any buffering problems?




3.5MBs?, assuming you know your B's from your b's thats about 28Mbs, you may probably struggle with 4K if thats your Max speed
Thank you very much everyone. Much appreciated


Zirk,
Oh OK. Their line is 31 Megabits/sec.
It does work with YouTube 4K streaming.
Maybe those vids are more compressed, compared to Amazon's.
Derek_Horatio_Shatwell1 h, 47 m ago

Thank you very much everyone. Much appreciated Zirk, Oh OK. Their …Thank you very much everyone. Much appreciated Zirk, Oh OK. Their line is 31 Megabits/sec.It does work with YouTube 4K streaming.Maybe those vids are more compressed, compared to Amazon's.


As stated in first post: Amazon Prime 4k video streaming requires minimum stable 15 megabits per second connection, and again: what's the obsession with 4k content being displayed on a 40" TV? There is zero visible resolution benefit over 1080p at that screen size for domestic TV applications, moreso if the source is compressed / rips where the compression / ripping may have already caused quality degradation. A 4k bluray can average 100 megabits per second, yet some peeps appear to assume the same "quality" can be obtained from Neflix at 25 megabits per second and even Amazon at 15 megabits per second? 4k just rockets the requirements for manipulating the data but often with disproportionate benefit, sometimes actually causing detriment due to the compromises required. A 50"+ screen at typical domestic viewing distance may be worth the effort to actually view (any) benefit, but still questionable via typical internet streams.
AndyRoyd28 m ago

As stated in first post: Amazon Prime 4k video streaming requires minimum …As stated in first post: Amazon Prime 4k video streaming requires minimum stable 15 megabits per second connection, and again: what's the obsession with 4k content being displayed on a 40" TV? There is zero visible resolution benefit over 1080p at that screen size for domestic TV applications, moreso if the source is compressed / rips where the compression / ripping may have already caused quality degradation. A 4k bluray can average 100 megabits per second, yet some peeps appear to assume the same "quality" can be obtained from Neflix at 25 megabits per second and even Amazon at 15 megabits per second? 4k just rockets the requirements for manipulating the data but often with disproportionate benefit, sometimes actually causing detriment due to the compromises required. A 50"+ screen at typical domestic viewing distance may be worth the effort to actually view (any) benefit, but still questionable via typical internet streams.



Thank you for the info.
They bought the 40" TV because their current TV stopped working and had to buy something as a replacement.
I don't think sizes like 55" and up were an option either, due to limited space.
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