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    Simon Cremer 300x243 Crime Pays: Thief Wins £13000 Because Victim Lost Faith In Justice SystemMARK Gilbert has won £13,000 damages from his former boss Simon Cremer. He sued for “humiliation” for being made to wear a sign saying “THIEF – I stole £845 am on my way to the police station” about his neck and forcibly walked to a police station.

    Would you have agreed to wear such a sign? Gilbert’s hands were bound. He says he was beaten. Mr Cremer denies using violence.

    Gilbert’s crime was to have written out a company cheque to himself and taken it to a Cash Converters in Essex. Gilbert got a caution. Cremer was charged with false imprisonment, but the case collapsed in December 2008.

    Then Cremer was invited to go to court. Gilbert wanted redress for alleged psychological distress and lost earnings

    48 Comments

    Original Poster

    IMO the thief got what was coming to him, the boss should not have been taken to court over it!
    Edited by: "ham82" 16th Feb 2011

    I'd go round and beat my £13,000 worth out of him and take the prison sentence.

    I think the boss should sue the police!!! How ridiculous is it that a thief is actually given compensation when he's broken the law? I thought Cameron was supposed to be sorting this country out- he should have started with the judicial system!

    Syzable

    I'd go round and beat my £13,000 worth out of him and take the prison … I'd go round and beat my £13,000 worth out of him and take the prison sentence.



    If he stole £13,000 worth of possesions from him, he'd probably get a slap on the wrist so I'd take my chances!!

    Original Poster

    can't believe it, this country is a joke!

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    source of info?

    must be more to this than OP states as you wouldnt get done for false imprisonment for hanging a sign around someone's neck!

    csiman

    source of info?must be more to this than OP states as you wouldnt get … source of info?must be more to this than OP states as you wouldnt get done for false imprisonment for hanging a sign around someone's neck!



    I think it's because he made false handcuffs and marched him down the street.

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    csiman

    source of info?must be more to this than OP states as you wouldnt get … source of info?must be more to this than OP states as you wouldnt get done for false imprisonment for hanging a sign around someone's neck!



    it states in OP that the thief claims he was beaten.

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    as I thought (certainly looks like he was beaten judging by marks on face and boss's knuckles!):-

    Gilbert said he feared he was going to be killed as he was bundled into the back of a van.

    He said: ‘They laid into me, they beat me, I was begging Simon to let me go to the police, they said they didn’t trust me and they had to tie me up. They were punching me and threatened me with various tools.’

    The case against Mr Cremer was ultimately dropped.

    A civil case was due before a court this week but has now been settled.

    Mr Cremer has had to pay £5,000 in compensation and £8,000 court costs, saying going through with a trial could have bankrupted him.

    Read more: metro.co.uk/new…ion

    ham82

    it states in OP that the thief claims he was beaten.



    But if you look at the picture, he doesn't look beaten at all. Would have been able to be walk down the street if he was beaten? He'd be black and blue lay on the floor!

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    justice was served imho

    He did go a bit over the top,
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-0-0A880273000005DC-999_468x427.jpg

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    Seems like people here have trouble reading the story.

    It was a civil case and the guy CHOSE to settle.

    Nothing story.

    Original Poster

    midjet666

    But if you look at the picture, he doesn't look beaten at all. Would have … But if you look at the picture, he doesn't look beaten at all. Would have been able to be walk down the street if he was beaten? He'd be black and blue lay on the floor!



    that's my point, he wasn't touched. just a chancer!

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    tonyg1962

    He did go a bit over the top,



    he got what he deserved

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    midjet666

    But if you look at the picture, he doesn't look beaten at all. Would have … But if you look at the picture, he doesn't look beaten at all. Would have been able to be walk down the street if he was beaten? He'd be black and blue lay on the floor!


    yes he does! people still walk after being beaten you know. oO

    obviously beaten as there is no way anyone would walk down the street like that unless they feared further violence

    two wrongs dont make a right so OP is making a mountain out of a molehill.

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    ham82

    that's my point, he wasn't touched. just a chancer!


    are you blind?

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    FilthAndFurry

    Seems like people here have trouble reading the story.It was a civil case … Seems like people here have trouble reading the story.It was a civil case and the guy CHOSE to settle. Nothing story.


    exactly!

    Imagine if it had turned out he was innocent ?.

    The boss is on radio 5 live now the thief got away with a caution and the boss ends up paying £34,000 in compensation and fees to the thief
    Edited by: "archer1204" 16th Feb 2011

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    midjet666

    I think the boss should sue the police!!! How ridiculous is it that a … I think the boss should sue the police!!! How ridiculous is it that a thief is actually given compensation when he's broken the law? I thought Cameron was supposed to be sorting this country out- he should have started with the judicial system!



    Sue them for what? What have the police done wrong?

    The bloke deserved it, if he called the police like a 'normal' person in the first place then none of this would have happened.

    Original Poster

    if the thief hadn't stolen anything in the first place none of this would have happened!

    Original Poster

    tonyg1962

    Imagine if it had turned out he was innocent ?.



    not possible the cheque was cashed in his name!

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    ham82

    if the thief hadn't stolen anything in the first place none of this would … if the thief hadn't stolen anything in the first place none of this would have happened!


    so if someone steals from you, it should be ok to beat them up and then take them to the police station.

    Nice one!

    Original Poster

    i don't believe he was beaten!

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    ham82

    i don't believe he was beaten!



    Irrelevant what you think.

    You started this thread without reading the story apparently. It was a civil matter and he chose to settle.

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    ham82

    not possible the cheque was cashed in his name!



    yes because no one could have put someone elses name on a cheque

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    FilthAndFurry

    Irrelevant what you think.You started this thread without reading the … Irrelevant what you think.You started this thread without reading the story apparently. It was a civil matter and he chose to settle.



    so by your logic it's irrelevant what you think about my comment. Thanks for posting!

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    colinsunderland

    yes because no one could have put someone elses name on a cheque



    i'm sure the CCTV of the store would have picked him up!

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    ham82

    i'm sure the CCTV of the store would have picked him up!



    maybe, did the business owner get look at it before beating him up and doing what he did?

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    ham82

    so by your logic it's irrelevant what you think about my comment. Thanks … so by your logic it's irrelevant what you think about my comment. Thanks for posting!



    At least I bothered to read the story and engage my brain.

    You're making comments about things you don't know - I'm commenting on the FACTS. That's why your comments are irrelevant.

    Original Poster

    isn't this a forum for voicing our opinions?

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    ham82

    isn't this a forum for voicing our opinions?



    That doesn't preclude your opinion from being irrelevant.

    It also doesn't mean people can't point out the fault in your 'logic'.

    Sounds like an easy way to turn a profit, must try it sometime...

    tonyg1962

    He did go a bit over the top,



    Dude at the back looks pretty beaten up. So bad that his face became pixelated.

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    FilthAndFurry

    That doesn't preclude your opinion from being irrelevant.It also doesn't … That doesn't preclude your opinion from being irrelevant.It also doesn't mean people can't point out the fault in your 'logic'.



    well consider me put in my place, congratulations.

    ham82

    it states in OP that the thief claims he was beaten.



    http://i55.tinypic.com/13zda9x.jpg

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    Do you think the thief or his boss wrote that sign?

    Either way, terrible grammar.

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    ham82

    well consider me put in my place, congratulations.



    So does 'voicing your opinion' mean no one can offer a different opinion?
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