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    A serious dillemma-how can I be certain.....

    That the light in my fridge goes out when I close the door?

    No way to be sure is there? What if the fridge manufacturers have been lying to us all this time and it stays on?

    46 Comments

    sit inside

    put a camera inside on a 10second timer

    metaphysics........hmmmm

    Try pushing the button. If it goes out then you know it will go out when the door pushes the button.

    Make a hole in the door and look through the hole...........

    This also worried me. I first solved it by putting a running camera into the fridge and this gave me reassurance for a while as it clearly showed the light going out.

    However I then remembered that by observing an event you cannot help but change it. At this point I gave up and took the bulb out I now have a torch sitting on the fridge (bulb end up to ensure it is also off when not required) and use that for any evening use of the fridge.

    hth

    Put your camcorder in there!

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    Plum

    This also worried me. I first solved it by putting a running camera into … This also worried me. I first solved it by putting a running camera into the fridge and this gave me reassurance for a while as it clearly showed the light going out.However I then remembered that by observing an event you cannot help but change it. At this point I gave up and took the bulb out I now have a torch sitting on the fridge (bulb end up to ensure it is also off when not required) and use that for any evening use of the fridge.hth



    very sensible solution too-I had thought about isolating the power to the light and running it off a separate plug from the fridge,then I could turn it off when not required rather than lose any more sleep worrying whether it goes off on door closure or not.

    diamondnine

    Try pushing the button. If it goes out then you know it will go out when … Try pushing the button. If it goes out then you know it will go out when the door pushes the button.



    Remarkable that a man of his age doesn't know this!

    Barky, were you brought up in a cupboard?X)

    Banned

    Do you think my hens are gay?

    1 Take out all the trays, shelves etc and contents

    2 Wrap a three-year old up warmly

    3 Place child in fridge

    4 Close door

    5 Count to three

    6 Open door

    7 Remove child

    8 Phone trauma clinic

    9 While help is arriving, ask child if they were trapped in a light place or a dark place.

    Hope this helps.

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    cannyscot

    1 Take out all the trays, shelves etc and contents2 Wrap a three-year old … 1 Take out all the trays, shelves etc and contents2 Wrap a three-year old up warmly3 Place child in fridge4 Close door5 Count to three6 Open door7 Remove child8 Phone trauma clinic9 While help is arriving, ask child if they were trapped in a light place or a dark place.Hope this helps.




    would this work with a dalmation?

    cannyscot

    1 Take out all the trays, shelves etc and contents2 Wrap a three-year old … 1 Take out all the trays, shelves etc and contents2 Wrap a three-year old up warmly3 Place child in fridge4 Close door5 Count to three6 Open door7 Remove child8 Phone trauma clinic9 While help is arriving, ask child if they were trapped in a light place or a dark place.Hope this helps.



    The seems to me to have health and safety implications!


    After all while you are going through this drawn out procedure your food could reach unsafe temperatures for further storage.

    I would suggest anybody going down this route at least add a step in between 7 and 8

    7b replace food in fridge as quickly as possible.

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    moob

    Remarkable that a man of his age doesn't know this!Barky, were you … Remarkable that a man of his age doesn't know this!Barky, were you brought up in a cupboard?X)



    yes,but the cupboard didnt have a light-being completely pedantic about it,pushing the button DOESNT prove that the same result will occur when you close the door-its the most likely possibility but you cannot be sure,and I need to be sure,otherwise the whole discussion is pointless...oh no wait.........

    Place a sensitive set of photovoltaic cells inside linked to a transmitter that will send a signal to a loudpeaker, if a current is generated. Close the door and listen.

    barky

    With a fridge no, but apparently the kebab shop would be happy to let you … With a fridge no, but apparently the kebab shop would be happy to let you try this with their freezer, they will even portion it up for you so it stacks more neatly.would this work with a dalmation?


    would this work with a dalmation?[/quote]

    Dunno ...






    ... never tried to put a three-year old inside a dalmation!

    barky

    yes,but the cupboard didnt have a light-being completely pedantic about … yes,but the cupboard didnt have a light-being completely pedantic about it,pushing the button DOESNT prove that the same result will occur when you close the door-its the most likely possibility but you cannot be sure,and I need to be sure,otherwise the whole discussion is pointless...oh no wait.........



    Why doesn't it exactly? The button is actuated by the physical connection with the fridge door when it's closed, which is mimicked by merely pressing the button when it's open.

    It's more of a mechanical issue, than electrical, really.

    How can you be sure that the light exists when you close the door (or, for that matter, anything inside the fridge)? If no-one see it, how can you prove its existence, or non-existence? (google "Schrodinger's cat" for an explanation)

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    moob

    Why doesn't it exactly? The button is actuated by the physical connection … Why doesn't it exactly? The button is actuated by the physical connection with the fridge door when it's closed, which is mimicked by merely pressing the button when it's open.It's more of a mechanical issue, than electrical, really.



    indeed,but if I push the button with the door open,I can actually SEE the light go out so that gives me proof that the mechanism is working,but only at that particular moment in time-so If I then immediately close the door,and cant see the light go out,I have no PROOF do I?

    my brain is starting to hurt now,and there isnt much of it left.

    cis_groupie

    How can you be sure that the light exists when you close the door (or, … How can you be sure that the light exists when you close the door (or, for that matter, anything inside the fridge)? If no-one see it, how can you prove its existence, or non-existence? (google "Schrodinger's cat" for an explanation)



    OK

    Now I'm confused

    Is it a cat or a dalmation (or a chicken) in the fridge?

    barky

    indeed,but if I push the button with the door open,I can actually SEE the … indeed,but if I push the button with the door open,I can actually SEE the light go out so that gives me proof that the mechanism is working,but only at that particular moment in time-so If I then immediately close the door,and cant see the light go out,I have no PROOF do I?my brain is starting to hurt now,and there isnt much of it left.



    AHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR!X)

    chesso

    Place a sensitive set of photovoltaic cells inside linked to a … Place a sensitive set of photovoltaic cells inside linked to a transmitter that will send a signal to a loudpeaker, if a current is generated. Close the door and listen.



    you took the words right out of my mouth Chesso

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    brb-gonna put mrs barkys dalmation in the fridge,not that this will prove anything re: the light,just that I hate him!

    Banned

    barky

    brb-gonna put mrs barkys dalmation in the fridge,not that this will prove … brb-gonna put mrs barkys dalmation in the fridge,not that this will prove anything re: the light,just that I hate him!



    Jealousy is not a nice trait

    barky

    brb-gonna put mrs barkys dalmation in the fridge,not that this will prove … brb-gonna put mrs barkys dalmation in the fridge,not that this will prove anything re: the light,just that I hate him!




    Haha, i pmsl everytime you mention your dalmy X) Whats he been upto now ? Hasnt savaged any more innocent guests (teddys ) has he ?

    chesso

    Place a sensitive set of photovoltaic cells inside linked to a … Place a sensitive set of photovoltaic cells inside linked to a transmitter that will send a signal to a loudpeaker, if a current is generated. Close the door and listen.



    if u're really clever send the signal to ur ipod and have a lil sad dance when u find out that current is still being generated

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    shopstilldrops

    Haha, i pmsl everytime you mention your dalmy X) Whats he been upto now ? … Haha, i pmsl everytime you mention your dalmy X) Whats he been upto now ? Hasnt savaged any more innocent guests (teddys ) has he ?



    actually hasnt done anything insane for a few days-probably got something in the planning stage tho-I think its madness goes back to the fact that it was expelled from dog training classes.

    the woman who ran the classes told mrs barky not to bring him back as he was upsetting the other puppies,and that in 25 years of traning dogs he was the stupidest animal she had ever met.

    mrs barky actually boasts that he is "the only dog ever to be expelled from overlea dog school"-like its a badge of honour!

    bitseylango

    you took the words right out of my mouth Chesso



    magicbeans

    if u're really clever send the signal to ur ipod and have a lil sad dance … if u're really clever send the signal to ur ipod and have a lil sad dance when u find out that current is still being generated



    haha - combine those two- insert a sensitive electrode into the speech motor area of the brain, train the nerve pathways to respond appropriately and if the signal is sent you say 'there is light'! How definitive is that?

    barky

    actually hasnt done anything insane for a few days-probably got something … actually hasnt done anything insane for a few days-probably got something in the planning stage tho-I think its madness goes back to the fact that it was expelled from dog training classes.the woman who ran the classes told mrs barky not to bring him back as he was upsetting the other puppies,and that in 25 years of traning dogs he was the stupidest animal she had ever met.mrs barky actually boasts that he is "the only dog ever to be expelled from overlea dog school"-like its a badge of honour!




    Haha, how funny ! sounds like a right character, and sounds like Mrs Barky wont have a wrong word said about him, lol..............lmao-expelled from 'doggy school', haha, classic X)

    How old is you dalmatian? mines 4 still untrained, been to 2 different sets of classes and she'll only sit when we have food and ignores the rest, very different from the colie i had

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    babyxxxxx

    How old is you dalmatian? mines 4 still untrained, been to 2 different … How old is you dalmatian? mines 4 still untrained, been to 2 different sets of classes and she'll only sit when we have food and ignores the rest, very different from the colie i had



    ours will be 4 on sept 21st-completely untrainable! he is a beautiful dog,loves the kids and isnt dangerous or anything,but he is bonkers!

    You could remove the bulb and connect 2 wires to the contacts, then connect the bulb to the wires running outside the fridge. I do this little test daily as these things are really worrying I agree.....

    My god.........what is wrong with you, there are much bigger worries in life.........






    like the light in the glove box......it's too small to fit the kids in to check.

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    Syzable

    My god.........what is wrong with you, there are much bigger worries in … My god.........what is wrong with you, there are much bigger worries in life.........like the light in the glove box......it's too small to fit the kids in to check.



    I really wish you hadnt mentioned that! now my worries are doubled!

    barky

    I really wish you hadnt mentioned that! now my worries are doubled!



    X)

    Banned

    Schroedinger's fridge. What if it's completely empty inside when you close it? The light might not even exist

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    DJ1

    Schroedinger's fridge. What if it's completely empty inside when you … Schroedinger's fridge. What if it's completely empty inside when you close it? The light might not even exist




    NOOOOOOO!! stop messing with my head! now I am gonna have to wake up regularly in the night to check if the FRIDGE is even there!

    goddam you!

    Barky....how did the dalmatian do at the dog event last Saturday?

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    fern37

    Barky....how did the dalmatian do at the dog event last Saturday?



    fell off the seesaw,tried to hump a collie and stole a bag of biscuits out a womans jacket pocket-just your normal dog doing an assault course:D
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