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    My boss is looking to buy the following for his Son and has asked my advice. I'm not in to PC gaming these days so am unsure of the spec Vs price ratio and would appreciate some advice!

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz 'Yorkfield' (OC'ed to 3.7GHz)
    2x2Gb PC3-10666 DDR3 low latency ram
    Seagate 1TB Hdd
    Samsung DVD RW
    ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3
    750W PSU
    Lian-Li PC7 midi tower
    'High performance Air cooling (Can't give me more specifics)
    Vista Basic

    No Mobo mentioned either.

    He's been quoted around £1200 for parts, build and Delivery. Obviously the processor would come already 'overclocked'...

    So, what do the experts think?

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    try here:

    powerc.com/uk/…ain

    i got my custom pc from there and it was a great price for the parts (i couldnt make it for much cheaper and it comes with 2 years Warranty on the build!

    Change the operating system for starters, go for XP if you can. Have you considered sound, monitor, keyboard and mouse?

    If you know anyone with reasonable IT knowledge you could get a bit knocked off that by building it yourself.

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    aslz78;4503768

    Change the operating system for starters, go for XP if you can. Have you … Change the operating system for starters, go for XP if you can. Have you considered sound, monitor, keyboard and mouse?If you know anyone with reasonable IT knowledge you could get a bit knocked off that by building it yourself.



    Yeah, I believe the peripherals aren't required as this will be replacing an existing gaming system. I would rather he paid to get it built because it will fall to me to build it otherwise!

    Asus Rampage Formula Intel X48 DDR2 Motherboard

    wOOt

    Sounds a lot of money with a mid range graphics card,for that amount you should be looking at a I7 system with at least a HD4870 and you need vista for DX10,Tell him to look somewhere else,

    I think he's getting buttfcked savagely for it. Good CPU, but pointless RAM (DDR3 just isn't any faster than DDR2 in anything but theory), mid-range graphics, and pre-overclocked, which basically means a hundred quid for nothing but a chap spending half an hour raising the FSB and tweaking voltage settings, all of which work will be undone as soon as the system starts to crash and resets its BIOS settings to default. Or until the boss' son gets tired of the system crashing, and resets the settings to default himself.

    Also, Seagate 1TB drives are the ones with the firmware problem that's been well publicised these past couple of months. And Vista Basic? They seriously are taking the pish.

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    dxx;4503948

    I think he's getting buttfcked savagely for it. Good CPU, but pointless … I think he's getting buttfcked savagely for it. Good CPU, but pointless RAM (DDR3 just isn't any faster than DDR2 in anything but theory), mid-range graphics, and pre-overclocked, which basically means a hundred quid for nothing but a chap spending half an hour raising the FSB and tweaking voltage settings, all of which work will be undone as soon as the system starts to crash and resets its BIOS settings to default. Or until the boss' son gets tired of the system crashing, and resets the settings to default himself. Also, Seagate 1TB drives are the ones with the firmware problem that's been well publicised these past couple of months. And Vista Basic? They seriously are taking the pish.



    great feedback, thanks. So, any places where you can buy a good pre-built system that won't try and rip him off?

    Quad core Q9550 £217.98
    Ram (OCZ) £80.83
    1TB HDD(samsung) £79.99
    Sony DVD-RW £17.99
    ATI 4850 512MB £112.99
    800W PSU £58.99
    Lian-Li Case £72.87
    Some Fans £30

    £671.64

    Not mentioning motherboard though.

    Thats just going on ebuyer prices.

    PC world?

    bazzaric;4504017

    great feedback, thanks. So, any places where you can buy a good pre-built … great feedback, thanks. So, any places where you can buy a good pre-built system that won't try and rip him off?



    I couldn't tell you, sorry. I always build my machines by hand. When you're wanting a high performance system, it's always by far the cheapest method, since every specialist will, in some way, try to rip you off.

    I suppose the best suggestion I could offer is that you get your boss to buy the bits himself from eBuyer (wouldn't take more than ten minutes to build up a shopping list for you), and either give them to his son to build (it's not at all difficult, and instructions come with the motherboard's manual), or take them to a local indie shop, and offer them £70 to build it. It's no more than thirty minutes work to put a system together properly, so they should accept. There is an alternative in buying from Overclockers.co.uk, but it isn't one that I'd recommend. Firstly, their management are dirty racist scum. Secondly, if anything should go wrong, they treat built systems as a collection of individual parts, and will not accept a return of a complete system, forcing you to trubleshoot by yourself, or send back each cmponent, bit by bit. I get the impression that they feel that if they delay and mess customers about long enough, they'll give up, and save OC from giving out a refund, or a replacement. Not that their replacement parts are ever new stock anyway, mind you.

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    Evryone has been 'repped' for their contributions, thanks

    The machine has some good choices in general, but as mentioned above I'd probably just get DDR2 and a cheaper motherboard as there isn't too much performance difference. Also Seagate 1TB harddrives are probably best to avoid for a few months as they've had pretty bad firmware issues...

    I'd really consider a self-build though, it should work out quite a bit cheaper and is probably easier than you think/remember (especially if you buy decent quality parts...) and you can customize the choice of parts better...

    A quick tot-up of prices in my head says that spec listed should cost certainly less than £900 allowing for a very decent PSU, motherboard and case and Vista H-P OEM, so the price quoted looks pretty excessive to me...

    Also given its meant to be a high-end gaming machine the choice of the 4850 doesn't really make sense (£1200 total cost so less than 10% is on the graphics card!) At very least you would expect them to use the 4870 and Vista Home Premium (Vista Basic doesn't even have the Aero interface!)

    He could always buy a cheap-ish system or build a cheap system(to advance knowledge of system building) for the meantime, or even just make do with what he has now for 6 months or so until the prices of the core-i7 CPUs come down a bit and windows7 makes an appearance.
    Some questions I've been wondering about though...

    1) how old is the system he has now and what makes him think he needs a new one?

    2) Could it be possible that he only needs to upgrade the graphics card/RAM etc?
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