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    advice on whey protein drinks and training

    hi people ive got some whey protein from h&b but looking to slim down and get some training in, weight lifting and slimming
    where would i start?
    how many times do i need to drink the proteins drinks? would it help me lose weight?

    please give me some advice thanks

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    I drink mine soon after a workout to recovery and repair of muscles.

    Also I only drink protein shakes when I'm going for a workout.

    Do a lot of cardio for slimming down.

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    You want to drink 4-5 a day. The more you drink, the slimmer you'll get.

    Won't help you loose weight unless your diet is right. Its only a supplement, thats the key word. Ppl get carried away with protein drinks, your diet is what is important. Just train, run and eat well and you will start seeing results.

    People always like to over complicate things. Simple, burn more calories than you eat

    protein would not help you lose weight, i thought protein was to build muscles and to encourage regrowth from working out.

    Unless what you have bought is stated as weight loss

    Just remember, the more you drink that stuff, the more you fart.

    The o.h says (he regular weight trainer)

    3 times a day

    Eat 4 times a day (can be difficult)

    Porridge (mixed in with protein shake if wanted)

    Steak/& Jacket Potato (get your butcher to cut some thin slices doesn't have to be expensive)

    Chicken & Veg, & rice

    Main meal at night..

    He also takes amino acids. It works, he's 42 and looks great.

    will not help you lose weight...protein will assist will muscle regrowth following exercise...only really necessary if you are doing regular weight training or high intensity cardio work

    You need to sort your diet,and get a regular exercise routine. get the basics right before you worry bout supplements

    Original Poster

    ive got my own muilt gym and treadmill weights etc
    i want to start of small,train about 30mins then get longer, as im 16st i want to lose weight but butch up aswell

    i find it hard to lose weight as im a forklift driver so dont get much exercise

    thanks for your advice

    have a look at this thread from a couple of months ago. i put in a few links about whey protein and weight loss (post #11)

    go with myprotein.co.uk/pro…ein if you are going to buy.

    the forums on myprotein are good for info too about when to take ect. straight after weights is when i take mine.

    Original Poster

    my normal day would be

    cornflakes 6am
    salad cob, banna bottle water 10am
    low fat yogurt fruit bottle water 1pm
    dinner at 8pm
    maybe a few snacks

    what could i change?

    sme24185;8837964

    my normal day would becornflakes 6amsalad cob, banna bottle water 10amlow … my normal day would becornflakes 6amsalad cob, banna bottle water 10amlow fat yogurt fruit bottle water 1pmdinner at 8pm maybe a few snackswhat could i change?


    add tuna and skinless chicken breasts into meals

    im the opposite i need to put on weight, im a postman and a veggie do about 7 miles walking with bags, will the protein drinks help me put on weight? and what about creatine capsules?

    Original Poster

    that it? everything else good? eatting enough? or to much

    i get to train around 5pm so your saying drink the drink after training?
    also it say 1 spoon to 250ml do i just need 1 spoon? for a starter

    tragictramp;8838036

    im the opposite i need to put on weight, im a postman and a veggie do … im the opposite i need to put on weight, im a postman and a veggie do about 7 miles walking with bags, will the protein drinks help me put on weight? and what about creatine capsules?



    yes for putting on weight, you can get weight gaining protein shakes like maximuscle progain extreme or something cheaper, I wouldn't risk creatine, I've heard bad things...and the weight gain will only work if you workout hard in the gym.

    sme24185;8838039

    that it? everything else good? eatting enough? or to much i get to train … that it? everything else good? eatting enough? or to much i get to train around 5pm so your saying drink the drink after training?also it say 1 spoon to 250ml do i just need 1 spoon? for a starter



    depends on the size of the scoop, usually they are large, so yeah you can start with one and put another when you feel you want to gain muscle.

    Original Poster

    i want to gain muscle fast but dont want to put the pud on lol
    but when i say start of small i mean probly 30min run 30min weight lifting? the spoon big but is it safe to do 2 spoons on small workouts?

    Original Poster

    im a person that likes fast results if i dont see anything i feel like quiting
    but was hopeing to see big results with this drink?

    sme24185;8838162

    i want to gain muscle fast but dont want to put the pud on lolbut when i … i want to gain muscle fast but dont want to put the pud on lolbut when i say start of small i mean probly 30min run 30min weight lifting? the spoon big but is it safe to do 2 spoons on small workouts?



    2 scoops are usually fine with most shakes.

    sme24185;8837964

    my normal day would becornflakes 6amsalad cob, banna bottle water 10amlow … my normal day would becornflakes 6amsalad cob, banna bottle water 10amlow fat yogurt fruit bottle water 1pmdinner at 8pm maybe a few snackswhat could i change?



    your underpants twice a day with that diet :whistling:

    Original Poster

    so it says 1 spoon for 250ml
    so i take it be 2=500ml not put it in to a 250ml.
    so if i took 2 spoons after 1hr working out say when would i start seeing some results?
    what should i do on the dropping the weight off as i say im seating down 9hr+ a day
    slimming tablets?

    Original Poster

    lol why whats wrong with that?

    I don't trust tablets...your better off doing more cardio then weights at the start to be honest...it does really work.

    Regarding the 500ml with 2 scoops, you don't need to double the water amount, you just need to a little more water but the shake will still be quite thick, if its too thick to drink then add more water.

    Original Poster

    oh right so dont need to read what it says about 250ml per spoon, what would you say best exrcise for me then

    weight lifting
    muilt gym again lifting
    or treadmill
    where should i put most time in?

    tragictramp;8838036

    im the opposite i need to put on weight, im a postman and a veggie do … im the opposite i need to put on weight, im a postman and a veggie do about 7 miles walking with bags, will the protein drinks help me put on weight? and what about creatine capsules?



    Dont get maximuscle stuff, its well overpriced. Get another decent simple protein shake. Include healthy fats; eat chicken, tuna, rice, potatoe, fruit.

    Can start creatine later when you hit a plateau, don't get capsules. Just get creatine mono and mix it with fruit juice (oh and don't both loading it). Just make sure you drink 2-4 litres of water a day when on it (which is what you should be drinking normally anyway)

    to the op,
    to be honest it all depends on how you train. your main goal seems to be weight loss. protien shakes may not be the best thing for you yet. first get your diet right. try eating 4-5 smaller meals through the day if you can it is hard to do though. eat meals high in protien fish chicken turkey etc and carbs sweet potato pasta etc and veg. try and lower your carb intake towards the evening. no junk. no sweets. fruit nuts only for snacks. your diet is the most important thing in any training. apply the same formula to 3 meals a day. really your diet depends on how you train
    training depends on what you can do and how is best for you to train. cardio is the winner for fat loss but there are two types. low intensity and high intensity. both burn fat in different ways. and require slight variats in diet mainly eating more carbs for a high intensity workout. if you are able to train constantly at a high intensity i would recommend this. its best to develop muscle and burn fat, but ist hard work, especially if your new and train alone, to keep up the pace. high intensity would be sprint sessions low intensity would be jogging for a long period.do this 3 days a week alternating days.
    for building definition i would recommend a low weight so able to do about 20 reps for 3-4 sets struggling on the last few reps. do this on alternating days a minimum of 3 days a week. best excercises would be compound moves such as bench press squat deadlift clean and press, make sure you are comforatble with technique before doing these.
    if you were to take protien it should be taken immediatly after a workout for you, you have a window of 20 min after training. but protien is best gotton from diet.

    to the posty, protien will prob help you more to bulk up. eat more of the foods listed above possibly more carbs with seven hours of heavy walking. take protien inbetween meals and after training.
    if you are training to gain its best to lift heavy as heavy as you can. 10 reps 3 sets and pyramid sets so start heavy for 3 set max then lighter weight for 4 sets etc. dont be afraid of creatine although i dont think it really will do all that much unless your training hard.
    .... and breathe any questions just ask. (michelles other half) training all my life!

    Original Poster

    thanks everyone for your help

    Original Poster

    i must be thick?
    20 reps for 3-4 sets struggling on the last few reps? what?

    h&b says it would be good for me on what i wanted to do?

    sme24185;8838521

    i must be thick? 20 reps for 3-4 sets struggling on the last few reps? … i must be thick? 20 reps for 3-4 sets struggling on the last few reps? what?h&b says it would be good for me on what i wanted to do?



    just do 8-10, 3 sets for each exercise. Higher reps are for endurance, but they dont decrease body fat or "get you ripped", unlike what most ppl think. You loose fat from high intensity cardio

    Original Poster

    still unsure as i was told if i over do the protein it can put the pud on. so unsure about 2spoons but again i do like fast results if it would work?

    Original Poster

    so what exersice would be a fast burning one as i seat down most of the day i want a good work out?
    where would i start? is the equipment going to be much use to me at the min?

    I wouldn't take 2 scoops at the moment if you want to slim down. the trend, amongst other things will should you out. 45 mins on the trend twice a week will work very well.

    OP no offence but you really need to get some proper advice and do some research about this.

    You clearly have no knowledge of exercise or nutrition and rushing in like this is a sure fire way to not achieve your goals and you will quickly become disheartened and give up.

    Protein powder is not the magic powder that you think it is...please forget about it for a bit.

    I would suggest joining a local gym for a couple of months so you can get a programme drawn up by a professionals or invest in a personal trainer for a few sessions who does home visits which can show you how to use the equipment correctly and talk to you about nutrition

    You also need to do some research yourself....

    The route you are taking will have you packing it in a a few weeks as you are not getting the "magic" results you are expecting.

    You need a lifestyle change not a quick fix

    Original Poster

    1 spoon after each work out
    treadmill 2times aweek
    weight lifting 3times a week?
    any good?

    ok rep is the repitition of move so a bench press would be. from the weight on your chest pushing up (breath out on this motion). then back down again that is one rep. a set is the collective of reps so 20 reps is 1 set. then take a 1min break and do another set of reps. when you get to set 2 you should struggle to do reps 19, 20. when you get to set 3 you should struggle with reps 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. by struggle i mean start making sex faces and grunting.
    h&b were trying to make a sale. protien shakes are good but they are not a magic cure. its diet mate that is it. get that sorted first. but if you want to use it do so straight after working out.

    Original Poster

    good advice but i dont have time to go gym somedays i do 12hrs i have a few hobbys
    caravan on coast i go to alot etc etc etc

    im not after a quick fix just results

    Original Poster

    some very good advice thanks i made the mistake today 1st day and had it before workout as they said.

    btw nothing u do will make it go ''fast''
    building muscle/losing weight takes time
    and 20 reps in a set is too much

    Start by weight lifting 3 x a week on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. To start start off split your bodybuilding routine across the 3 days by training two body parts per day for eg: train Chest and Triceps on Monday, and on Wednesday train your Shoulders and Legs, and then on Friday finish of your routine by training Biceps and Back. Now for the protein shakes i would normaly have my protein drink first thing early in the morning and also immediately after each workout to help rebuild your muscles after a serious workout!:-D so twice a day should be enough but try to also take in protein from other sources like fish, chicken, and egg whites..

    And finaly on to the cardio for a beginner i would run 2 to 3 times a week for 1.5 -3 miles, and gradually build up your mileage as your stamina and endurance increases.:thumbsup:

    sme24185;8838676

    good advice but i dont have time to go gym somedays i do 12hrs i have a … good advice but i dont have time to go gym somedays i do 12hrs i have a few hobbys caravan on coast i go to alot etc etc etcim not after a quick fix just results



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