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    Advice Please???

    Hi,
    Basically i need some advice. I bought a mini laptop/netbook thing off someone on here.
    I paid £60.00 by bank transfer and followed all advice/rules on here regarding contact telephone numbers etc.
    Any how, the seller promised he was sending by courier and was arranging it straight after i paid so it would be delivered 48 hours later (on the Weds)
    Anyhow the following day he got suspended so i couldnt contact him on here.
    I finally got a response from him by email saying he was suspended so couldnt send the item as he could access my pms on here to get my address (even though he should of sent before he got suspended.) Anyway i re sent my details by email and he said he was sending that day. When it didnt come the following day (he suspension was up on here) i pm'd him and he said he would definately send the next day. Once again within an hour he got suspended again. I emailed him loads of times and he kept promising.
    Then he ignored my emails for a few days so i sent an email stating i would take further action if i didnt get a refund or the laptop sent.
    He finally emailed back saying as he was suspended he needed my details agin so hadnt been able to send it, even though i had previously emailed them to him.
    I did this again and he emailed last thursday and said definately sending that day so i would recieve friday, once again no laptop turned up so i emailed him agin. This time he said he sent it on friday so would be here before 12 on saturday. Then on saturday he emailed saying he didnt realise parcelforce dont deliver on a saturday so it would be here before 12 on monday. All this time i kept asking for a tracking number and he ignored me.
    Finally yesterday he emailed me a tracking number and it is a recorded signe for royal mail tracking number sent that day at 4pm. Well anyhow i finally get it today and guess what...................

    IT WONT TURN ON!!

    The power light comes on and goes straight off agin. At first i thought both of the batteries must be flat so have tried leaving both on for an hours charges and still doesnt turn on.
    I have emailed him but he hasnt replied yet.

    Any advice on whatt to do please???

    (Sorry for long post but wanted to explain nearly everything that happened to show how patient i have been with him)

    Thanks.



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    Original Poster

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    Its been over 2 weeks now, any advise anyone??

    there is a dedicated report thread from juliet bravo regarding fs/ trade items -

    will try and find for you

    Banned

    sounds like pwnage

    what a loser..

    feel really bad for you not sure what you can do as you paid bt

    i'm only paying for stuff via paypal protected from now on, i've been scammed twice (low value items but still)

    Can't trust anyone these days it seems

    Original Poster

    holly100;4541659

    there is a dedicated report thread from juliet bravo regarding fs/ trade … there is a dedicated report thread from juliet bravo regarding fs/ trade items - will try and find for you



    Thanks, i have had lots of contact with the mods over this for the last 10 days and have used the contact us a few times. Just reported this update to say i have recieved it and it is faulty to admin and he has sent an email to the member but just wanted to know what else i could do.

    Thanks.

    wow what a d**k
    occasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give sites like this a bad name. i think with paypal your covered for purchases up to £200. i may be wrong though.
    Only thing is, they might say it was your fault for not asking for pics of the laptop turned on and working..
    Good luck anyway :thumbsup:

    Original Poster

    imranmaz;4541673

    sounds like pwnage



    a what???

    junkenstein73;4541686

    what a loser..feel really bad for you not sure what you can do as you … what a loser..feel really bad for you not sure what you can do as you paid bti'm only paying for stuff via paypal protected from now on, i've been scammed twice (low value items but still)Can't trust anyone these days it seems



    Yeh i know. Its a bad world these days. Its sad no-one can be trusted. It seems though even if you use paypal you arent completely protected unless via ebay.
    I suppose he would of just provided paypal with the tracking number and then not much they can do as he would of already had the money taken out of paypal weeks ago.
    Im so annoyed!!

    wow what a d**k
    occasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give sites like this a bad name. i think with paypal your covered for purchases up to £200. i may be wrong though.
    Only thing is, they might say it was your fault for not asking for pics of the laptop turned on and working..
    Good luck anyway :thumbsup:

    edit: just realised you paid by BT my bad :oops:

    Banned

    NeilGrainger;4541719

    a what???Yeh i know. Its a bad world these days. Its sad no-one can be … a what???Yeh i know. Its a bad world these days. Its sad no-one can be trusted. It seems though even if you use paypal you arent completely protected unless via ebay.I suppose he would of just provided paypal with the tracking number and then not much they can do as he would of already had the money taken out of paypal weeks ago.Im so annoyed!!



    It sounds like you have been had.

    have mods explained why he is suspended? does he not pick up phone calls? and do you have his address? phone him dude!

    Original Poster

    manchesterjim;4541716

    wow what a d**koccasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give … wow what a d**koccasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give sites like this a bad name. i think with paypal your covered for purchases up to £200. i may be wrong though.Only thing is, they might say it was your fault for not asking for pics of the laptop turned on and working..Good luck anyway :thumbsup:



    Yeh i know, i didnt even think about the pics of it on and working to be honest. I do have emails and pms as proof of him saying itworked perfectly etc. Also he said it would come with the case/laptop bag thing and he didnt send that.
    To be honest he sent it in a box quite alot bigger than the laptop with no padding wrapped around it or anything, just a jiffy envelope on top of it.
    Also the fan cover thing wasnt on it properly and has the screw missing out of it.

    junkenstein73;4541686

    what a loser..feel really bad for you not sure what you can do as you … what a loser..feel really bad for you not sure what you can do as you paid bti'm only paying for stuff via paypal protected from now on, i've been scammed twice (low value items but still)Can't trust anyone these days it seems



    manchesterjim;4541730

    wow what a d**koccasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give … wow what a d**koccasionally you do meet sellers like this. they give sites like this a bad name. i think with paypal your covered for purchases up to £200. i may be wrong though.Only thing is, they might say it was your fault for not asking for pics of the laptop turned on and working..Good luck anyway :thumbsup:edit: just realised you paid by BT my bad :oops:


    papal will still only cover your for item not received outside of ebay, whereas this would fall under significantly not as described:thumbsup:

    harlzter;4541762

    papal will still only cover your for item not received outside of ebay, … papal will still only cover your for item not received outside of ebay, whereas this would fall under significantly not as described:thumbsup:



    ahh right ok..thanks

    It was sent without ANY wrapping?omg no wonder it doesnt work.

    i know this sounds silly, but take the battery off the laptop. press and hold the power button for 10 seconds, plug in the adaptor and see if it works. if not, i would say it could be a serious issue and not worth messing about with. if you are lucky it will be the ram, if you are unlucky, i would say its gonna be the motherboard.

    this sort of selling should not be allowed on here. when you pay via bank transfer, there is no security.

    The fact that there is a screw missing from the fan cover worries me combined with no pics of it working, suggests it was known as faulty>had a tinker with>failed>sold on this of course is pure conjecture on my part but would concern me.

    Original Poster

    imranmaz;4541748

    It sounds like you have been had.have mods explained why he is suspended? … It sounds like you have been had.have mods explained why he is suspended? does he not pick up phone calls? and do you have his address? phone him dude!



    Yeh i know, im so annoyed. Yes i have his number and address but he doesnt answer the phone. He didnt even email me back really until i did some internet surfing on his 'company' which his email address was and found out all his details and other phone number/email address he used to set the company website up.
    Also the bank details he got the money paid into was a name i assumed was his but when i found out more of his details, i realised his name was a different name, same surname. So i am assuming he got the money paid into his Dads account.

    Banned

    NeilGrainger;4541932

    Yeh i know, im so annoyed. Yes i have his number and address but he … Yeh i know, im so annoyed. Yes i have his number and address but he doesnt answer the phone. He didnt even email me back really until i did some internet surfing on his 'company' which his email address was and found out all his details and other phone number/email address he used to set the company website up. Also the bank details he got the money paid into was a name i assumed was his but when i found out more of his details, i realised his name was a different name, same surname. So i am assuming he got the money paid into his Dads account.



    maybe get someone that knows a bit about computers to take a look? unless you know much about them?

    does ANYTHING come up on the screen?

    Original Poster

    deb8z;4541794

    It was sent without ANY wrapping?omg no wonder it doesnt work.



    Well yes i was thinking that as well but to be fair i think it was faulty before he sent it. (Maybe a good way of trying to claim from royal mail - but as he only sent recorded not enought compensation) I may be wrong but i believe it was already faulty.

    aircanman;4541874

    i know this sounds silly, but take the battery off the laptop. press and … i know this sounds silly, but take the battery off the laptop. press and hold the power button for 10 seconds, plug in the adaptor and see if it works. if not, i would say it could be a serious issue and not worth messing about with. if you are lucky it will be the ram, if you are unlucky, i would say its gonna be the motherboard. this sort of selling should not be allowed on here. when you pay via bank transfer, there is no security.



    Yep i have just tried that and before i put the battery back on (but the charger plugged in) it just did the same as what it does with the battery plugged in. I might be wrong but it seems like both batteries are knackered. I dont have much knowledge with computers but it seems it does the same thing with the battery on it or without it on it with the charger plugged in.

    harlzter;4541907

    The fact that there is a screw missing from the fan cover worries me … The fact that there is a screw missing from the fan cover worries me combined with no pics of it working, suggests it was known as faulty>had a tinker with>failed>sold on this of course is pure conjecture on my part but would concern me.



    I agree conpletely.

    Original Poster

    This is an email reply i just got from him:

    It was working fine when it left here.

    I am irritated by your tone and frankly I couldn't really care less right now. You bought it from me, I sent it working and thats as far as my obligation goes.

    Don't keep threatening legal/police/whatever action as this is rubbish, I have sent my laptop which has worked perfectly for years. If it has been damaged during transit then it is your responsibility to contact the royal mail.

    I have better things to be doing at this difficult time, and will not correspond further with you.

    You could try RM but you're only covered upto 36 pounds and i wouldn't fancy your chances especially if wasn't packed properly to begin with.

    Just wondering if the op could use a service such as this?

    moneyclaim.gov.uk/csm…jsp

    I know it will cost but with all the email evidence you have and the circumstances could this not, either scare him into giving you a refund when he receives the paperwork or if he ignored it you could claim what you have lost,

    Original Poster

    deb8z;4542156

    You could try RM but you're only covered upto 36 pounds and i wouldn't … You could try RM but you're only covered upto 36 pounds and i wouldn't fancy your chances especially if wasn't packed properly to begin with.



    But i believe the sender has to issue a claim anyway.

    Original Poster

    clondikemike;4542175

    Just wondering if the op could use a service such as … Just wondering if the op could use a service such as this?https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jspI know it will cost but with all the email evidence you have and the circumstances could this not, either scare him into giving you a refund when he receives the paperwork or if he ignored it you could claim what you have lost,



    Im just trying to find out how much it costs to do. Is it worth throwing more money after it when he might just ignore it.

    NeilGrainger;4542247

    Im just trying to find out how much it costs to do. Is it worth throwing … Im just trying to find out how much it costs to do. Is it worth throwing more money after it when he might just ignore it.



    Im wondering if you may get back your costs when you win, if its a negligble amount it may be worth the hit just for the satisfaction,

    Just found this on a forum and you do get your money back if you win,

    does not exceed £300……………………£30


    exceeds £300 but not £500… £50


    exceeds £500 but not £1,000 £80


    exceeds £1,000 but not £5,000 £120

    Another good link regarding moneyclaim

    hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms…htm

    You can def claim back all court costs and interest

    Original Poster

    clondikemike;4542291

    Im wondering if you may get back your costs when you win, if its a … Im wondering if you may get back your costs when you win, if its a negligble amount it may be worth the hit just for the satisfaction,Just found this on a forum and you do get your money back if you win,does not exceed £300……………………£30exceeds £300 but not £500… £50exceeds £500 but not £1,000 £80exceeds £1,000 but not £5,000 £120



    tinkerbell28;4542333

    Yes you should get the costs back.



    clondikemike;4542396

    Another good link regarding moneyclaim … Another good link regarding moneyclaim http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1051.htmYou can def claim back all court costs and interest



    To be honest if i do it it will be purely for satisfaction reasons. But is it worth paying another 50% of the item price on the chance he might pay up. Also maybe he has done this before and is cliver by getting me to pay into a bank account thats not his 1st name.
    Also he told me the other day that the reason it was delayed was because his dad dies of cancer that weekend. That is why i have been patient and trying to be nice. But from his last email i copied above i think he is on the con!!

    NeilGrainger;4542185

    But i believe the sender has to issue a claim anyway.



    On the claim form it asks whether you are the sender or the recipient so either can do it.

    On ebay, saying a family member has died is one of the most frequently used excuses and in most cases a complete lie,sad but true i'm afraid.

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    deb8z;4542473

    On the claim form it asks whether you are the sender or the recipient so … On the claim form it asks whether you are the sender or the recipient so either can do it.



    But they will write to him asking for proof of sending etc. and is he really gonna reply??

    NeilGrainger;4542465

    To be honest if i do it it will be purely for satisfaction reasons. But … To be honest if i do it it will be purely for satisfaction reasons. But is it worth paying another 50% of the item price on the chance he might pay up. Also maybe he has done this before and is cliver by getting me to pay into a bank account thats not his 1st name.Also he told me the other day that the reason it was delayed was because his dad dies of cancer that weekend. That is why i have been patient and trying to be nice. But from his last email i copied above i think he is on the con!!



    There was a guy yesterday on BBC news who was jailed for 18 months for conning people on ebay, his first excuse for to buyers was that his mum had died, then he went as far as to phone up the local paper posing as his dad to say he had been killed in a fire!!!!!!!

    Once you make the claim and he agrees to pay up then he would have to pay for your costs anyway, i know its a pain but im sure he wont do it again, and the ruling is enforcable by the courts

    Original Poster

    deb8z;4542508

    On ebay, saying a family member has died is one of the most frequently … On ebay, saying a family member has died is one of the most frequently used excuses and in most cases a complete lie,sad but true i'm afraid.



    Yes i am quite aware of that. Its disgusting to say that if its untrue!! absolutely diabolical.
    For some reason i have a stange feeling and believe the account in which i transferred to is his dads account. As its a mans name with the same surname.
    Also it seems he is only 21. I dont even know why i am saying that but.....................

    Original Poster

    clondikemike;4542535

    There was a guy yesterday on BBC news who was jailed for 18 months for … There was a guy yesterday on BBC news who was jailed for 18 months for conning people on ebay, his first excuse for to buyers was that his mum had died, then he went as far as to phone up the local paper posing as his dad to say he had been killed in a fire!!!!!!!Once you make the claim and he agrees to pay up then he would have to pay for your costs anyway, i know its a pain but im sure he wont do it again, and the ruling is enforcable by the courts




    I cant believe the lengths some people go to for some silly moneys. It really is disgusting.
    I probably will do the court legal thing but i just think he will ignore it.

    NeilGrainger;4542520

    But they will write to him asking for proof of sending etc. and is he … But they will write to him asking for proof of sending etc. and is he really gonna reply??



    You're claiming for a damaged item,i'm not sure how that process goes as i've not done it,but you have proof of delivery as it was sent RD wasnt it.

    I was just advising you,whether you choose to make a claim is obviously upto you.

    The person who left feedback for your seller twice has collected items from him,perhaps you could check with him if his address etc is the same as the one you have.

    NeilGrainger;4542588

    I cant believe the lengths some people go to for some silly moneys. It … I cant believe the lengths some people go to for some silly moneys. It really is disgusting.I probably will do the court legal thing but i just think he will ignore it.



    I know and he only made £23k, you would think that if someone was going to go to the lenghts of pretending to be dead he would at least do it for an amount of money he could retire on!!!!

    I dont think he can ignore it as it is legally enforcable by the court, im pretty sure he would poop his conning pants if anything dropped through his door, hes probably sitting at home thinking hes not going to do anything for £60,

    vinylandtrinkets;4542775

    sorry but ive got to ask but didnt you think it odd that the guy was … sorry but ive got to ask but didnt you think it odd that the guy was selling 3 laptops?http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/343483/hp-pavilion-zd7000-laptop-charger-b/?p=4434614#post4434614http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/338939/hp-colour-laserjet-1600-4-full-and-/?p=4369103#post4369103and yours.as such a newbie ( hate that word) to sell 3 with no feedback on here or anywhere else seems a bit odd to me.Hope you get it sorted out, might be an idea to go down the small claims route, also if he sold the other laptops email the buyers to see if they have had problems, if they have then contact the policegood luck with it all



    Good idea:thumbsup:

    vinylandtrinkets;4542775

    sorry but ive got to ask but didnt you think it odd that the guy was … sorry but ive got to ask but didnt you think it odd that the guy was selling 3 laptops?http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/343483/hp-pavilion-zd7000-laptop-charger-b/?p=4434614#post4434614http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/338939/hp-colour-laserjet-1600-4-full-and-/?p=4369103#post4369103and yours.as such a newbie ( hate that word) to sell 3 with no feedback on here or anywhere else seems a bit odd to me.Hope you get it sorted out, might be an idea to go down the small claims route, also if he sold the other laptops email the buyers to see if they have had problems, if they have then contact the policegood luck with it all




    Nothing was sold on those two threads.
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