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    Advice wanted on buying a car

    Ok guys today im going to start negotiations for the car i want to purchase and was wondering if anyone had any tips on bargin with the salesmans?

    Also i was wondering if there is any place to find out roughly what the car costs to the dealership so that i can use this as my stating point (probably wishful thinking but you never know)

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    Get your self a Parkers guide they are a few quid from newsagents. That will help with telling you how much they payed.

    Glasses guides are for the trade only and can be difficult to get hold offf.

    Just haggle and when he stops lowering go for extra's (petrol, servicing, mats! etc)

    depends on what car you are getting. ive recently purchased a meriva and went on network Q to view all group stock. i was able to negotiate a £1000 discount. its not a good time to be trying to sell cars, so they should be looking to give you a cracking deal.

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    Benson's Bargain;4097143

    Get your self a Parkers guide they are a few quid from newsagents. That … Get your self a Parkers guide they are a few quid from newsagents. That will help with telling you how much they payed.Glasses guides are for the trade only and can be difficult to get hold offf.Just haggle and when he stops lowering go for extra's (petrol, servicing, mats! etc)



    Thanks for the advice, in relation to haggling do i just luck a 'low' figure out of the air and start with it and work my way up?


    Would you believe it as given use of a glass' guide for one day and then i went and changed the car i want and no longer can get the book :x

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    leecroot;4097145

    depends on what car you are getting. ive recently purchased a meriva and … depends on what car you are getting. ive recently purchased a meriva and went on network Q to view all group stock. i was able to negotiate a £1000 discount. its not a good time to be trying to sell cars, so they should be looking to give you a cracking deal.



    I'm looking the new fiesta:thumbsup:

    You can get a glass's guide valuation on the ]vauxhall website free.

    allstar2;4097155

    Thanks for the advice, in relation to haggling do i just luck a 'low' … Thanks for the advice, in relation to haggling do i just luck a 'low' figure out of the air and start with it and work my way up?Would you believe it as given use of a glass' guide for one day and then i went and changed the car i want and no longer can get the book :x



    If the car is marked up with a price take 25% off and go from there, he will probably Guffaw but it's a buyers market.

    If you look interested and haggle from your price i'm sure you will get a deal! somewhere inbetween

    Good luck!

    ]What car gives you target prices

    If its a new car you are buying Whatcar give a "target price".....they ring round dealers and try to haggle for the lowest price and the target price is that figure.....

    [url]www.whatcar.co.uk[/url]

    Edit - goonie got there before me!

    Ask the salesperson what is their best deal, then aim to be well under that.

    Don't agree to any deal on your first visit, whatever they tell you, walk away, shop around for a better price.

    Let them sweat, they need you more than you need them.

    i see. have you got many ford dealers near you, or within a drive. id ring arround and see what they can offer you with regards to extras, the other thing to bear in mind is how you are paying. They make extra money on the finance. i paid cash for mine which didnt go down very well. i did find that the further you went upo the country the cheaper the cars were. this may not apply to new cars though. have you thought off getting one that is only a few months old. you would save a fortune and still get the warrenty? it may be woth asking about that to. hope that helps.

    We went to negotiate on the new fiesta but in the end it was just too small for our needs. They did though offer it for £9k, with our car part ex (£2.2k) for the titanium 5 door. Was over £1k off their list price. Bargain hard, walk away and wait for them to ring you back. If it's the car you want wait it out, you will get a better deal.

    Good luck!

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    I dont think we have too many ford dealers near me unless does it could for them all to be part of the same franchise thing? Cos then i have quite a few more.

    I did think going 2nd hand but im stuggling to find this car in diesel 2nd hand

    Thanks guys for all your advice

    there was a prgrgramme on the other night saaying that now is the best time to buy a car as far as negotiating for price i concerned, it is a buyers market and things are really tough in the car industry and will be for the next 12 months or so

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    looking like i mite have picked a good time to buy then..

    does anyone know if you can get no claims bonuses even if your not a named driver??

    see

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    discount on new fiesta is about £1000-£1400, but supply limited

    Sorry to threadjack but it seemed related.

    Can you talk them down in those big car supermarkets (second hand). Going to buy my first car after passing my test a couple of years ago (been saving) and haven't a clue what to expect.

    depends how much you got and how desperate the garage are to get shot off the car. now is the right time to get a new / used car. you can certainly beat down the price, but sometimes they inflate the price, bring it back down then it looks like you are getting a good deal. ask some friends if they can recommend a good local dealership or one man band. good luck

    Why not buy a pre reg one? Rather than a brand new one? It will be a brand new car but has already been registered, and you can save thousands :thumbsup:

    Also try [url]www.motorpoint.co.uk[/url]

    peodude makes a good point. But make sure that you do a full comparison. Discounts on new cars at the moment can bring them close to the cost of a pre-reg. Ungreat, supermarkets typically have small margins and so you won't get much off. They haggle for you in getting the cars from manufactures/hire companies in the first place. It's also worth checking for special dealer offers. There will be a lot of pack cars around at the moment (special deals to dealers based on larger numbers and large discounts). So phone round. Sites like Broadspeed that I linked to earlier should give an indication of the sort of discount that is available.

    Its a buyers market, remember a £500 mark-up/profit (or even a minor loss if they are a main dealer and close to their target for monthly sales to get a big fat bonus) for them is better than a customer walking and the car devaluing sat on the forecourt, keep in mind you have the advantage not them, you have the power role so dont let them knock you off the pedestal of advantage.

    I would do what alot have said on here, pick a figure out of the air and go from there. When I haggle I refuse to be a pain in the butt cos you will need them when you go for servicing and warranty issues. If you were a pain with them first off, they will be a pain with you when you really need them. For a new car, fuel and mats and tax are included. So I would go in with the cash you want to pay, chuck it on the table and say, tell me no?

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    thanks guys,

    the salesman today wouldnt even budge on his price, even when i provided evidence i could purchase it 1000pounds cheaper elsewhere..so i walked out and he is to call on monday.

    rang another place and they were alot more helpful and the guy is willing to sit down and match the best price i have from the start..then il haggle more

    What model and spec are you looking at? (1.6TDCi Style +)

    I don't think you will get any massive discounts on the new one as ford wont be offering dealers massive discounts as they still have old stock to shift.

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    GAVINLEWISHUKD;4099627

    What model and spec are you looking at? (1.6TDCi Style +)I don't … What model and spec are you looking at? (1.6TDCi Style +)I don't think you will get any massive discounts on the new one as ford wont be offering dealers massive discounts as they still have old stock to shift.



    1.6 TDCi Zetec

    but im also back to consider the 1.9 TDi Golf i seen a while back which was 9700 and only had 9000 miles on it :oops:

    Was thinking have you looked at the Fiat Bravo.

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    Then again, maybe not!:roll:

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    hadnt looked at..simply for the fact i dont know of any fiat dealers locally

    allstar2;4099730

    1.6 TDCi Zetecbut im also back to consider the 1.9 TDi Golf i seen a … 1.6 TDCi Zetecbut im also back to consider the 1.9 TDi Golf i seen a while back which was 9700 and only had 9000 miles on it :oops:



    I'd consider going for a golf, the devaluation on a ford is unbelievable.

    I saw a 2006 "56" reg, Golf 1.9 s tdi 5 door, silver, 39,000 miles, sell at the sales last week for £6,400.

    04 reg Mondeo 2.0 lx tdci, 73,000 miles sold for £2175.

    It's a very good time to visit the sales, you'll probably see your' dealer there too. :-D

    I'd also contact the previous keeper of any "low milage" used car in order to confirm the milage it had covered when they last had it!!!!!! :w00t:

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    the golf im looking at is from 2nd period of 2008 so the miles seem reasonable and its from a main dealer so seem realistic enough but might give the other person a ring.

    allstar2;4100741

    the golf im looking at is from 2nd period of 2008 so the miles seem … the golf im looking at is from 2nd period of 2008 so the miles seem reasonable and its from a main dealer so seem realistic enough but might give the other person a ring.



    Doesn't do any harm to check the V5 registration document, and see previous history. You don't want the former keeper to be Avis rent a car, or a driving instructor. :x If the dealer has nothing to hide, it shouldn't be a problem to let you see it.

    I'd check with the previous keeper that it has never been involved in an accident too.

    I'd say the nearly new VW would be a better bet than a brand new Ford. As they say, "if you can't afford a dodge, dodge a ford" :thumbsup:

    If checking prices, new or used, use Parkers :thinking:, it's free... parkers.co.uk/car…es/

    Good luck.

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    cheers shambolic, think im going to see the car on monday/tuesday night with my dad, need someone better to bargin with with lol

    Another tip would be to contact your' insurance company, supply them with the reg' number, and full details of the vehicle, then ask them what they would value it at.
    No point in paying £9,500.00 for a car, if your' insurance company will only cover it for say £8,500.00. Offer the dealer, what your' insurance company value it at, or less.:thumbsup:

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    never though of that..

    tried to ring my insurance company and they told me that the registration number i provided them with didnt belong to that car.caused some confusion but i got DVLA info saying insurance compnay got it wrong
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