After a new pc

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Posted 2nd AprEdited by:"RunninRiot"
3433028-NvojI.jpgIs this pc any good? Looking to spend about £600 I’ll be using mainly for browsing poker and some steam games. I’ve got a keyboard and mouse but I’ll be looking to go wireless, is this pc capable of that. I’ll also be looking to upgrade the ram etc down the line, again is this capable of that, any advice or better builds you can find would be appreciated. Pretty new to pcs, would I need to update the drivers? It comes with no OS I’m planning to install windows 10 myself and eBay an activation code.Thanks
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Which PC?
I'm also eager to buy a new pc, I have about £1000 to spend, keep getting put off buying tho with stuff going on, should I wait for deals etc. Generally want ryzen tech, should I wait for new ryzen, are prices going to go up due to supply issues? What boards are good and dont have temp problems etc. So I just give up and wait for something so good to fall in front of me. Looking for something maybe like.
Ryzen 7 3700x
X570 board
16gb ram
5700xt gfx
1tb m.2
Edited by: "MANicho" 2nd Apr
ra78602/04/2020 18:21

Which PC?


I uploaded a picture with this post but it doesn't appear to be there for some reason, one minute i'll try edit it in.
MANicho02/04/2020 18:26

I'm also eager to buy a new pc, I have about £1000 to spend, keep getting …I'm also eager to buy a new pc, I have about £1000 to spend, keep getting put off buying tho with stuff going on, should I wait for deals etc. Generally want ryzen tech, should I wait for new ryzen, are prices going to go up due to supply issues? What boards are good and dont have temp problems etc. So I just give up and wait for something so good to fall in front of me. Looking for something maybe like.Ryzen 7 3700xX570 board16gb ram5700xt gfx1tb m.2


you don’t really need a x570 mobo a good b450 max motherboard is good.

3600 is plenty for gaming but for productivity go for a 2700x or 3700x

5700 xt is good but amd drivers are buggy but mature over time and great value, also you might be better off with a 5700 the leap between that and the xt is not worth it imo depending on res
BabaGanoush02/04/2020 19:18

you don’t really need a x570 mobo a good b450 max motherboard is good. 3 …you don’t really need a x570 mobo a good b450 max motherboard is good. 3600 is plenty for gaming but for productivity go for a 2700x or 3700x5700 xt is good but amd drivers are buggy but mature over time and great value, also you might be better off with a 5700 the leap between that and the xt is not worth it imo depending on res


Yeah I heard u can flash 5700 with xt bios too gives u like 90-95% of xt performance.

Is x570 only difference pcie4 and not really worth it then?

And yeah will be gaming rig mainly and vid editing premier pro / photoshop a bit
Edited by: "MANicho" 2nd Apr
MANicho02/04/2020 19:25

Yeah I heard u can flash 5700 with xt bios too gives u like 90-95% of xt …Yeah I heard u can flash 5700 with xt bios too gives u like 90-95% of xt performance.Is x570 only difference pcie4 and not really worth it then?And yeah will be gaming rig mainly and vid editing premier pro / photoshop a bit


i’m not sure about the bios flash but there’s should be vids on it

the 3600 is really good for gaming not sure about ps or pp not something i know about but as long as you do some research you should be good
Ryzen 3600, gigabyte b450, 16gb 3000mhz ram, 240gb SSD/nvme + 1tb Hdd, 500w bronze or higher psu, rx580 8gb and a decent case.

Should be around 550-600~ use different sites for cheap prices.
Husla02/04/2020 21:22

Ryzen 3600, gigabyte b450, 16gb 3000mhz ram, 240gb SSD/nvme + 1tb Hdd, …Ryzen 3600, gigabyte b450, 16gb 3000mhz ram, 240gb SSD/nvme + 1tb Hdd, 500w bronze or higher psu, rx580 8gb and a decent case.Should be around 550-600~ use different sites for cheap prices.


Is there a build of this out somewhere I could purchase or are you suggesting I buy them and built it myself, thanks
RunninRiot02/04/2020 22:24

Is there a build of this out somewhere I could purchase or are you …Is there a build of this out somewhere I could purchase or are you suggesting I buy them and built it myself, thanks


Both tbh. CCL usually has something for pre-built
This is way better value, you can even upgrade to the GTX 1660 Super for a lower price than this one: awd-it.co.uk/awd…tml
m3racer12302/04/2020 22:29

This is way better value, you can even upgrade to the GTX 1660 Super for a …This is way better value, you can even upgrade to the GTX 1660 Super for a lower price than this one: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-raider-2600x-six-core-4.2ghz-radeon-rx-580-4gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html


Can you explain the graphics cards for me, would this be able to handle 1080p on most games? Or would I need the 1660. I would definitely rather spend less money than more on something I don't have a lot of experience with and I really like the case on this too. One last question, would I be able to upgrade the ram down the line if I chose too and add wireless keyboards/mouse etc. Thanks.
Edited by: "RunninRiot" 2nd Apr
RunninRiot02/04/2020 22:37

Can you explain the graphics cards for me, would this be able to handle …Can you explain the graphics cards for me, would this be able to handle 1080p on most games? Or would I need the 1660. I would definitely rather spend less money than more on something I don't have a lot of experience with and I really like the case on this too. One last question, would I be able to upgrade the ram down the line if I chose too and add wireless keyboards/mouse etc. Thanks.


The RX 580 will give you at least 60fps at 1080p on most games. The 1660 will give higher framerates and be more future proof in the coming years. And yes, RAM can be upgraded yourself and you can easily add wireless keyboard ad mouse, they only require USB ports.
m3racer12302/04/2020 22:46

The RX 580 will give you at least 60fps at 1080p on most games. The 1660 …The RX 580 will give you at least 60fps at 1080p on most games. The 1660 will give higher framerates and be more future proof in the coming years. And yes, RAM can be upgraded yourself and you can easily add wireless keyboard ad mouse, they only require USB ports.


Thanks for the info and help
RunninRiot02/04/2020 22:52

Thanks for the info and help


I forgot to mention, Ryzen processors perform much better with at least 3000MHz RAM so the 2400MHz of the one you linked should be upgraded.
m3racer12302/04/2020 22:56

I forgot to mention, Ryzen processors perform much better with at least …I forgot to mention, Ryzen processors perform much better with at least 3000MHz RAM so the 2400MHz of the one you linked should be upgraded.


I'm probably going to purchase the one you linked too, the only differences i made was I upgraded the graphics card to the RX 580 8GB for an extra £30 (not sure if it's worth it) and I changed the SSD to 480gb.
RunninRiot02/04/2020 22:59

I'm probably going to purchase the one you linked too, the only …I'm probably going to purchase the one you linked too, the only differences i made was I upgraded the graphics card to the RX 580 8GB for an extra £30 (not sure if it's worth it) and I changed the SSD to 480gb.


Yeah, that sounds good if you can't afford to upgrade to the 1660 super.
m3racer12302/04/2020 23:12

Yeah, that sounds good if you can't afford to upgrade to the 1660 super.


Just before i pull the trigger I'd like one last bit of advice if you don't mind. I've been playing around with the configurations. Which would you say is better.

MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX - Ryzen 5 3600x 4.4 - Sapphire RX 580 8GB (£646.78)
ASUS Prime B450M-A - Ryzen 5 2600x 4.25 - ASUS GTX 1660 Super 6GB (£666.79) or even just replacing the MoBo with the standard B450M-K for £611.

What would you say is the most important? Thanks again
RunninRiot03/04/2020 12:04

Just before i pull the trigger I'd like one last bit of advice if you …Just before i pull the trigger I'd like one last bit of advice if you don't mind. I've been playing around with the configurations. Which would you say is better.MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX - Ryzen 5 3600x 4.4 - Sapphire RX 580 8GB (£646.78)ASUS Prime B450M-A - Ryzen 5 2600x 4.25 - ASUS GTX 1660 Super 6GB (£666.79) or even just replacing the MoBo with the standard B450M-K for £611.What would you say is the most important? Thanks again


The graphics card is the most important upgrade, followed by CPU, followed by motherboard. Annoyingly, it looks like they've increased the price of the 1660 Super.
Yeah that's pretty typical. Okay I'll keep that in mind thanks again

Edit: Just realised if i change the cpu the price of the graphics card goes up for some reason. Also just realised I need a PSU.
Edited by: "RunninRiot" 3rd Apr
Useful thread, thank you all. I have a slightly bigger budget, around £1k ex VAT. I am looking for something for general office work (big CAD files, pdfs etc, lots of screens open) and modest gaming which I won't need to upgrade for a good few years. I am looking at:

cclonline.com/pc/…pc/ and cclonline.com/pc/…pc/.

I am leaning toward the i5 over the 3700X, but would be grateful for any thoughts and any up/down grades you would advise. Cheers!
Check parts lists vs PC Part Picker uk.pcpartpicker.com/ - you'll get an idea how much they are charging to supply built
In addition to partpicker, may be worth checking out any bundle combo deals at various suppliers - and trawling for used / refurb deals.
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