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    Hi all,

    I am after a boost to my games a little. My machine is not that great @ AMD 2200+, 1GB Ram, 180GB HDD etc...

    I have a crappy Nvidia Geforce MX420! Now I do not have a lot of money to spend, and do not think it justifies spending £80 or whatever on a card.

    Basically I am after a noticeable improvement in speed and looks, just to play games like SWAT 4, Doom 3 etc. Bear in mind my previous card!!!

    Anyone got any ideas. Looking to spend about £35 MAXIMUM, after any discounts I can get - maybe a Google Checkout discount?

    REP to be left where appropriate :thumbsup: ;-) :-D

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    9800 Pro on ebay will do the trick for you

    I'll second what mega says there, the ]X1550 looks to be about the best in your budget (well, £37 delivered after GC).

    The Geforce 7600GT ebuyer.com/UK/…243 is great value but at ~£63 I guess its too far out of budget. Probably worth it if you want to play games at higher than 1280x1024 though...

    One alternative option, well within budget (£26.15 delivered next day), you could get a Radeon 9800SE All-in-wonder from Retek Direct. Only 128MB but comes with built in TV tuner. retekdirect.co.uk/aca…tml

    Original Poster

    Thanks guys!!

    Just to tell you lol - my monitor only does 1024 x 768, so that's the max I can display anyway lol :-D

    jah128

    One alternative option, well within budget (£26.15 delivered next day), … One alternative option, well within budget (£26.15 delivered next day), you could get a Radeon 9800SE All-in-wonder from Retek Direct. Only 128MB but comes with built in TV tuner. http://www.retekdirect.co.uk/acatalog/Video_Cards.html



    Looks good, but isn't that a PCIexpress card?

    I'd be interested in getting a replacement for the Quadro FX 550 card that I got in a new computer I just bought. It's only got AGP and PCIx (not PCIexpress) slots I think.

    Would ideally like something 256+ with TV tuner... Or perhaps 128 with TV tuner or 256 without TV tuner, depending on price.

    Any recommendations?

    0rchid

    Looks good, but isn't that a PCIexpress card?I'd be interested in getting … Looks good, but isn't that a PCIexpress card?I'd be interested in getting a replacement for the Quadro FX 550 card that I got in a new computer I just bought. It's only got AGP and PCIx (not PCIexpress) slots I think.Would ideally like something 256+ with TV tuner... Or perhaps 128 with TV tuner or 256 without TV tuner, depending on price.Any recommendations?



    ]Is this any good?

    spitfire51

    ]Is this any good?



    Aha - I now see the AGP card further down the page!

    Silly me.

    Looks good Anything 256 for a little extra?

    Sorry about that, should have mentioned it was the one on the bottom of the page!

    The 9800SE is several generations old now, but then your 420 a couple of generations further, its an interesting option if the TV card really appeals to you I guess.

    Don't get too hung up about memory capacity - with a budget so low and such as low screen resolution you might find a 128mb better value (if, for example, you find a card with more shading power and faster ram than a slower/weaker card with more ram). That said, 256mb is certainly a useful amount of ram for the newest games.

    Original Poster

    I should say - my PC spec is here:

    h10025.www1.hp.com/ewf…971

    I have upped the RAM etc, but that's it.

    With a 220 Watt PSU, will a 256 card be any good?!

    Ooh, MattC. 220W is not very high for adding a graphics card, but then you are running it happily with a Geforce420 at the moment so you are really looking for something similar in power requirements - that would be a card which doesn't require any additional power connectors. Unfortunately this generally limits you to the budget cards (like the card you currently have). I think the X1550 would probably work ok, but I can't find the actual power reqs. of the card - maybe someone else could confirm it has not extra power connector?

    Original Poster

    Yikes huh?

    It's a shame. Maybe I need a new PSU? How much you reckon they are total?

    I mean even at the moment, my flippin PCI USB 2.0 card has a lack of power when plugging in some external drives, but I duno if that's cos of a weaker PSU?

    Thanks for responses so far

    You might have problems as I don't think its a standard sized PSU. One of the problems with OEM machines from the likes of HP & Dell is they are sold with PSUs adequate only for the spec as sold (as in not much room for upgrades).

    Given the age of the system now, you might find that your best bet is a more major upgrade. One option would be to keep you HDD, DVD and memory but get a new case, PSU, motherboard and processor. The cheapest you could probably get this is around £50 if you take advantage of the google-checkout offer at ebuyer:

    Order 1:
    Black ATX Case ebuyer.com/UK/…273
    PC Chips M870 Motherboard ebuyer.com/UK/…814
    Total £26.37 super-saver delivered after google-checkout

    Order 2:
    Sempron 3000+ CPU (S754) ebuyer.com/UK/…422
    S754 CPU Cooler ebuyer.com/UK/…047
    400W PSU ebuyer.com/UK/…582
    Total £26.65

    Total for both order £53.02. You would then have a new system, although not too much faster than your current one, it would be ready to take any AGP card of your choice.


    An alternative, for a bit more, would be to get an Intel (AGP & DDR motherboard) and a Pentium-dual core cpu, so you could keep your ram yet get a large performance boost at minimal expense. There is an Asus board that supports DDR and AGP and also most Pentium D and Core 2 CPUs for under £28 at ebuyer. The order below is for a dual-core Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU, 7600GT 256Mb AGP graphics, new Asus motherboard and a new case & PSU. I've gone for a good quality, Antec branded case and PSU that should give several years reliable service but you could save up to ~£20 by getting cheaper case as in order above. I've also put it as just two orders (free shipping on CPU) - you might be able to save even more if you split it further as above (remember £10 off all orders over £30 before delivery).

    Order 1:
    Pentium D 935 2x3.2GHz CPU ebuyer.com/UK/…408
    Total £47.24

    Order 2:
    ASUS P5PE-VM Motherboard ebuyer.com/UK/…970
    Point Of View 7600GT 256MB DVI AGP Graphics card ebuyer.com/UK/…243
    Antec NSK4400 Case With 380W PSU ebuyer.com/UK/…648
    Total £128.40

    Comes to just over £175 total - a lot more than your £35 (!) but then its a lot more computer!

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    i suggest u read this

    people giving u advice here are probably not noticing u need a AGP 4X gfx card

    they are recommending AGP 8X cards which could cause stability, artifacting and other issues

    be careful b4 you buy!!!

    does that mean i get quadruple the rep? LOL

    muffin247

    ]http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.htmli suggest u read … ]http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.htmli suggest u read thispeople giving u advice here are probably not noticing u need a AGP 4X gfx cardthey are recommending AGP 8X cards which could cause stability, artifacting and other issuesbe careful b4 you buy!!!does that mean i get quadruple the rep? LOL



    No! but I appreciate what you are saying, watch the power consumption:)

    muffin247

    ]http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.htmli suggest u read … ]http://www.neoseeker.com/Hardware/faqs/kb/10,63.htmli suggest u read thispeople giving u advice here are probably not noticing u need a AGP 4X gfx cardthey are recommending AGP 8X cards which could cause stability, artifacting and other issuesbe careful b4 you buy!!!does that mean i get quadruple the rep? LOL



    AGP is a backwards compatible standard they're supposed to comply to, meaning any AGP 8x card should run ok on a 4x board, if it doesn't (as some specify AGP 3.0 only for example) it's because they've cut corners to make a cheaper card. Your best bet there is to pick a card or cards you like in your price range and do a search (google or otherwise) to see if anyone has reported any trouble on AGP 4x systems.

    Jah does have a point about the power mind, my top tip seeing as you're not wanting to spend too much is to just try a new card and see how it goes. If you do have a standard size case then you can always pick up a PSU later if you have any issues, if it's not a standard size you could set up a PSU outside the case with the case open, not recommended ideally but it would fix your problem till you have some more cash to throw at the problem and are able to go for one of Jahs suggestions.
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