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    Alan Barnes fundraiser Katie Cutler faces court over debts.

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    A woman who raised more than £300,000 for mugged disabled pensioner Alan Barnes is facing court over an unpaid publicity bill.

    Katie Cutler, 23, of Gateshead, set up an internet appeal after being moved by the plight of the 68-year-old, who is just 4ft 6in and registered blind.

    As the money flooded in, PR specialist Claire Barber said she was recruited to publicise the campaign in March 2015.

    But Ms Barber claimed she is still owed £6,687 by Miss Cutler.

    bbc.co.uk/new…688

    55 Comments

    Original Poster Banned

    Alan Barnes offers JUST £10 to woman facing bailiffs who helped him raise £330,000

    express.co.uk/new…ill


    Would anyone else like to donate X)

    Alan Barnes should pay that bill he got over £300.000.
    He could have paid it and told no one. His excuse of everyone will come begging for cash is rubbish. I

    Original Poster Banned

    patti

    Alan Barnes should pay that bill he got over £300.000. He could have paid … Alan Barnes should pay that bill he got over £300.000. He could have paid it and told no one. His excuse of everyone will come begging for cash is rubbish. I


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    Awful man and so many donated that money to him.

    patti

    Awful man and so many donated that money to him.



    Exactly. They donated money to him. Therefore it is now his money to do with what he likes. It was this woman who decided to stop paying her bills. You can't blame Alan Barnes for that or expect him to take responsibility for somebody else's failure to pay what they owe.

    Very wrong on Alan Barnes' part but that's just the world we live in...though he does seem to be more selfish than others maybe would be in his situation. Given his statement about leaving what he has left when he dies to charity he could have covered the womans expenses that she incurred trying to do something nice for him and still had plenty left to help charities of his choosing after his death. Something about biting the hand that feeds you springs to mind.

    She hired the "PR specialist" for £550 a day after the donation to Alan Barnes. She wanted to raise £1 million for 20 further needy people.

    The "PR specialist" (is there such a thing in the real world) is the awful person in this, and Katie is an idiot for using her.

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    themorgatron

    She hired the "PR specialist" for £550 a day after the donation to Alan … She hired the "PR specialist" for £550 a day after the donation to Alan Barnes. She wanted to raise £1 million for 20 further needy people.The "PR specialist" (is there such a thing in the real world) is the awful person in this, and Katie is an idiot for using her.



    Social media was enough, no PR required when a story like this comes along.

    Really does make you think twice about helping someone when you get knifed in the back like this. MR Barnes should pay the lot without delay and apologise for such selfishness. He is greedy full stop.

    He said: “I would suggest that someone sets up a small fund to raise m … He said: “I would suggest that someone sets up a small fund to raise money to pay for Katie's PR.



    Someone? So he couldn't even be bothered to type a few sentences for her?

    moneysavingkitten

    Someone? So he couldn't even be bothered to type a few sentences for her?


    Blind pensioner....

    stuarthanley

    Blind pensioner....



    I can talk to my phone and my computer and it will type for me. Can't you? That's what accessibility options are for.

    Even if he couldn't do that (which I doubt), could he not have enlisted the help of someone else to type a few sentences for him? Perhaps the person writing the article, who he clearly did have time for.

    Sad, twisted and mixed up world we live in

    Try to help someone then make a mistake of thinking a PR company will help raise awareness/funds
    Raises lots of funds without deducting costs
    Gives funds to needy who can't be bothered to realise the PR was used to help them receive all that cash.

    two words
    first word will get my comment deleted and give me a short holiday but begins with the 6th letter of the English alphabet (had to put Engllish to ensure some of our readers understand)
    second word up

    You can see he is a frail 4ft 6in disabled pensioner who is registered blind. He plans to live off the money raised for him and says he will make a donation to charity when he dies from any leftover cash. The people who are trolling this poor man should be ashamed (_;) Troll Claire Barber, who runs the PR firm, who offered to help raise funds and the profile of Katie’s charitable foundation. I agree Alan Barnes could have donated more money to help Katie Cutler, but not all of it. Its good that Ryan Walker has set up 'Pay off Katie Cutler’s PR bill’ and donations ranging from a fiver to £50 have already trickled in with the current total standing at almost £200.

    Vicious circle springs to mind, unfortunately people make money out of charities and donations which should never happen...but it does and always will.

    Banned

    Well.

    Just so you all know.

    I emailed Katie Cutler at the time of her taking on more fund raising cases during the tail end of her promoting Alan Barnes & gave her a brief word of warning about taking on to much.

    She basically informed me that she knew what she was doing despite taking on 2 or 3 more fund raising campaigns without having previous business experience. .

    Oh well I guess.... Someone has just taken proper advantage of her ignorance like I warned her but she knew better.

    Katie owes the money. It was her agreement in business and that agreement was nothing to do with Alan Barnes. It was Katie promoting herself as a serial fundraiser

    YouDontWantToKnow

    Well. Just so you all know. I emailed Katie Cutler at the time of her … Well. Just so you all know. I emailed Katie Cutler at the time of her taking on more fund raising cases during the tail end of her promoting Alan Barnes & gave her a brief word of warning about taking on to much.She basically informed me that she knew what she was doing despite taking on 2 or 3 more fund raising campaigns without having previous business experience. . Oh well I guess.... Someone has just taken proper advantage of her ignorance like I warned her but she knew better.Katie owes the money. It was her agreement in business and that agreement was nothing to do with Alan Barnes. It was Katie promoting herself as a serial fundraiser


    We don't want to know (_;)

    If I ever have an unexpected (or expected) bill I can't pay I'm not going to assume the air ambulance or RNLI will give me back my donations so I can afford it.

    Some people think this is exactly what Alan Barnes should do....

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    moneysavingkitten

    I can talk to my phone and my computer and it will type for me. Can't … I can talk to my phone and my computer and it will type for me. Can't you? That's what accessibility options are for. Even if he couldn't do that (which I doubt), could he not have enlisted the help of someone else to type a few sentences for him? Perhaps the person writing the article, who he clearly did have time for.



    Claire Barber
    Edited by: "cchopps" 16th Sep 2016

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    summerof76

    We don't want to know (_;)



    She paid for self-promotion for her forthcoming campaigns NOT for Alan.

    Banned

    YouDontWantToKnow

    She paid for self-promotion for her forthcoming campaigns NOT for Alan.



    We don't want to know

    YouDontWantToKnow

    She paid for self-promotion for her forthcoming campaigns NOT for Alan.


    There are some good people in this world who will go out of their way to help others. Katie Cutler has a big heart and helped Alan Barnes in his hour of need. In this day and age the younger generation just think about me,me,me. I applaud what Katie has done to help a vulnerable adult

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    cchopps

    We don't want to know



    I know but the fact of the matter is Alans' money is his & not to pay PR work for Katie. Those are the rules of donation.

    He didnt manage the campaign & by the time it was in the hundreds of thousands there was no PR needed.

    YouDontWantToKnow

    I know but the fact of the matter is Alans' money is his & not to pay PR … I know but the fact of the matter is Alans' money is his & not to pay PR work for Katie. Those are the rules of donation. He didnt manage the campaign & by the time it was in the hundreds of thousands there was no PR needed.


    I agree, that money is his and his alone. But if Katie had not of stepped in and helped Alan, he would have been left in a very vulnerable state by now.

    Original Poster Banned

    summerof76

    I agree, that money is his and his alone. But if Katie had not of stepped … I agree, that money is his and his alone. But if Katie had not of stepped in and helped Alan, he would have been left in a very vulnerable state by now.



    Why not get Alan to give some money to the thug that attacked him too? after all, he's to thank for all this.

    Banned

    Anyway

    There are just giving threads to donate to Katie Cutler legal issues. Should you wish to donate to paying her PR bill.

    MrScotchBonnet

    Why not get Alan to give some money to the thug that attacked him too? … Why not get Alan to give some money to the thug that attacked him too? after all, he's to thank for all this.


    I was wondering when you would turn up with your sarcastic comments. You should be ashamed trolling a blind defenceless disabled pensioner, is that how you get your kicks

    could i just mention i need another super wheelchair:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Bock_Otto_SuperFour_1.jpghttp://www.clipartkid.com/images/83/clipart-thumbs-up-happy-smiley-51eLA0-clipart.png

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    summerof76

    You should be ashamed trolling a blind defenceless disabled pensioner, is … You should be ashamed trolling a blind defenceless disabled pensioner, is that how you get your kicks



    He seems he gets his kicks from any random minority.

    YouDontWantToKnow

    He seems he gets his kicks from any random minority.


    I don't normally get involved with topics on misc but it turns my stomach people trolling just for kicks (_;)

    Original Poster Banned




    summerof76

    I was wondering when you would turn up with your sarcastic comments. You … I was wondering when you would turn up with your sarcastic comments. You should be ashamed trolling a blind defenceless disabled pensioner, is that how you get your kicks



    I'm just highlighting the fact you could say Alan owes money to many people throughout his life for various reasons, at the end of the day it's his money and no reason whatsoever should influence what he decides to do with his cash.
    Edited by: "MrScotchBonnet" 16th Sep 2016

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    YouDontWantToKnow

    He seems he gets his kicks from any random minority.



    Nice to see you back.

    this is disgraceful, she tried her best but should have been advised that all fundraising costs be taken out of the fund b4 she handed the money over, he is a greedy person, and do not forget peeps he is on benafits that will be a lot more than some on here earn

    pension + disability living allowance (prob £550 per 4 weeks)

    I feel so sorry for her, she did the right thing but due to naivety she has lost

    shame on him

    Banned

    miles136

    this is disgraceful, she tried her best but should have been advised that … this is disgraceful, she tried her best but should have been advised that all fundraising costs be taken out of the fund b4 she handed the money over, he is a greedy person, and do not forget peeps he is on benafits that will be a lot more than some on here earn pension + disability living allowance (prob £550 per 4 weeks)I feel so sorry for her, she did the right thing but due to naivety she has lostshame on him



    It is illegal to take PR fees (or any fees) without it being stipulated in the fund raising agreements. The reason for this is to stop con artists giving £5 to the benefactor whilst pocketing £100k for themselves.

    She employed a "firm" to help her with PR at a time when she had 3 or 4 causes on the go. She was paid by TV companies to speak on TV & then realised she wanted more PR.

    This has nothing to do with Alan & it was her own choices & her own business deal with a 3rd party that he was neither informed of or agreed to. It was her choice to elevate her own charity fundraising to promote what she decided to do. She was ignorant.

    As for what Alan got? He got a home & the rest of the money which is his is now under the rules of benefits.

    & if you think he can have £150k in his bank & still receive full benefits then you are mistaken.

    Banned

    YouDontWantToKnow

    It is illegal to take PR fees (or any fees) without it being stipulated … It is illegal to take PR fees (or any fees) without it being stipulated in the fund raising agreements. The reason for this is to stop con artists giving £5 to the benefactor whilst pocketing £100k for themselves. She employed a "firm" to help her with PR at a time when she had 3 or 4 causes on the go. She was paid by TV companies to speak on TV & then realised she wanted more PR.This has nothing to do with Alan & it was her own choices & her own business deal with a 3rd party that he was neither informed of or agreed to. It was her choice to elevate her own charity fundraising to promote what she decided to do. She was ignorant.As for what Alan got? He got a home & the rest of the money which is his is now under the rules of benefits.& if you think he can have £150k in his bank & still receive full benefits then you are mistaken.



    DLA/PIP is NOT means tested.

    Banned

    cchopps

    DLA/PIP is NOT means tested.



    I get you. But its still one or the other.

    Even so. Katie has no recall & the debt is hers. People donated to Alan NOT Katie

    Banned

    Oh I forgot.....

    I also specifically warned her to not form an agreement with anyone who wanted to charge her.

    Edited by: "YouDontWantToKnow" 17th Sep 2016

    YouDontWantToKnow

    It is illegal to take PR fees (or any fees) without it being stipulated … It is illegal to take PR fees (or any fees) without it being stipulated in the fund raising agreements. The reason for this is to stop con artists giving £5 to the benefactor whilst pocketing £100k for themselves. She employed a "firm" to help her with PR at a time when she had 3 or 4 causes on the go. She was paid by TV companies to speak on TV & then realised she wanted more PR.This has nothing to do with Alan & it was her own choices & her own business deal with a 3rd party that he was neither informed of or agreed to. It was her choice to elevate her own charity fundraising to promote what she decided to do. She was ignorant.As for what Alan got? He got a home & the rest of the money which is his is now under the rules of benefits.& if you think he can have £150k in his bank & still receive full benefits then you are mistaken.



    disability living allowence is not means tested so yes he can have £150k and have DLA

    raptorcigs

    could i just mention i need another super wheelchair:




    the woman in the back appears to need a new bra, she's holding her girls up with her hand.

    will someone set up a gofundme page for the poor old lady

    raptorcigs

    could i just mention i need another super wheelchair:



    I'm calling shenanigans. In every other pic you've posted of yourself, you look like a dinosaur.
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