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    Am I out of touch with the world does an 11-12 year old really need an I phone or I pad? I am 45, the kids keep on going on about these am I really out of touch with todays world? I don't think they do maybe when they are a bit older. Or prehaps this is social pressure!

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    I agree what does a 11-12 year need a ipad for?

    no you aren't and they don't really need them but the mental mums will be along shortly saying they do because of all the peados and immgrants.

    Original Poster

    I really don't think they need one, prehaps I am just getting old! we all want what's best for our kids but I really think I do have to draw the line at this!

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    ants97

    no you aren't and they don't really need them but the mental mums will be … no you aren't and they don't really need them but the mental mums will be along shortly saying they do because of all the peados and immgrants.



    So as if you are going to be able to check everything they do, as there are weirdo's out there!

    adp

    So as if you are going to be able to check everything they do, as there … So as if you are going to be able to check everything they do, as there are weirdo's out there!



    yep if your kid hasn't got an iphone then how will they get in contact with you when gary glitter pulls up in his van. kids without iphones are a peados dream.
    Edited by: "ants97" 22nd Apr 2011

    I don't think you're out of touch. I think kids today have out of kilter expectations.

    My 13 year old has neither Ipad nor Iphone....he has a Netbook but he knows we do spot checks on history and he was warned if he went on anything even remotely dodgy it would be confiscated for a year. He uses it to play games, listen to music and research new games he wants for his Xbox and that's about it.

    Personally I'd say an 11/12 year old wouldn't fully appreciate either Ipad or Iphone. My son has a phone that he uses to let me know he's on the school bus and for any problems that may arise.....he goes thru' about £10 of credit every 3 months. I think I paid £30 for it, more than enough and if it gets nicked/damaged neither of us will beat ourselves up over it.
    Edited by: "luvvlychocolate" 22nd Apr 2011

    a child that young would probably end up getting mugged for it, my nephews 11 and he just has a cheap phone from asda, tbh he doesnt even use it only takes it out with him so my sister can ring.

    my lad - now 9 - has been harping on for the last 3 years that he "needs" a phone ... apparently he was the only kid in his class that didn't have one - so for his birthday in march i caved in and bought him a cheap one from ASDA - he's still got about £4 left from his initial £10 credit ....

    he's not allowed on the PC/laptop unless i am with him or he's writing stories .... he goes next door to his friends who has a FB account something called bebo and a myspace account - this neighbour is 10 ffs !!!
    Edited by: "arcangel111" 22nd Apr 2011

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    does anyone need an ipad, first thing most people do on here after getting one is start a thread asking for a use for it

    apparently Angry Birds is pretty good ... lol

    I think children have these expensive items way too soon and so never learn to appreciate them. I have 2 children aged 9 and 11 and they are definitely not allowed an iPAD or an iPHONE - the eldest one has a phone as she now goes into town on her own with friends and we have a family laptop they are allowed to use in the lounge.

    whatsThePoint

    does anyone need an ipad, first thing most people do on here after … does anyone need an ipad, first thing most people do on here after getting one is start a thread asking for a use for it



    Using mine now, great device

    It is the computer age, my 1 year old can operate the ipad, sounds ridiculous I know but she watches barney on it, peppa pig etc etc, my 4 year old uses the Ipad for books and drawing apps etc. I debated whether or not to buy her a netbook this year. After getting her nursery report I am more than happy to let her continue using it (In moderation of course)

    Computers for me I feel are an important part of a child's education now. I totally understand if you don't like the idea of it, but we are heading one way and its digital

    Banned

    My Son asks for a phone a fair bit, just like he asks to play Modern Warfare 2 on the PS3 amongst other things. I manage to do what it appears most of the parents these days don't and that's to say no!

    My 14yo has the iphone 3gs and has had it for a year and a half and it's been the best value for money. As a younger child he was bought numerous toys and remote controlled cars etc that were never played with from the week after they were bought. The iphone has been in use daily and he's taken great care of it.

    Of course he doesn't need it, we don't need most of the materialistic crap we have in our homes but it's just the way it is. He's obviously going to get something at christmas so instead of getting gifts he didn;t want that would all add up to roughly the same price as an Iphone, all the family chipped together to get him it.

    Getting your kids cheap tat that they wont use is just false economy.

    I debated whether or not to buy her a netbook this year



    Are you serious.....a netbook for a 4 year old? oO

    My Son asks for a phone a fair bit, just like he asks to play Modern … My Son asks for a phone a fair bit, just like he asks to play Modern Warfare 2 on the PS3 amongst other things. I manage to do what it appears most of the parents these days don't and that's to say no!



    Apparently I'm the only mother who doesn't allow their darling son to play 18 cert games - this coming from the 13 year old and the 9 year olds......I think some parents haven't quite grasped that there are age restrictions on games for a reason!
    Edited by: "luvvlychocolate" 22nd Apr 2011

    BlinneOrlaith

    It is the computer age, my 1 year old can operate the ipad, sounds … It is the computer age, my 1 year old can operate the ipad, sounds ridiculous I know but she watches barney on it, peppa pig etc etc, my 4 year old uses the Ipad for books and drawing apps etc. I debated whether or not to buy her a netbook this year. After getting her nursery report I am more than happy to let her continue using it (In moderation of course) Computers for me I feel are an important part of a child's education now. I totally understand if you don't like the idea of it, but we are heading one way and its digital



    Same here - I am amazed sitting watching my 3 and 4 year old using the Ipad/Iphone (OH's I may add and not their own) for reading stories and matching games etc. I've even had to ask THEM how to do something on the Ipad lol. It's the way forward and I don't mind them using it at all but I think I don't think they would be getting their own one anytime soon.

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    numptyj

    Using mine now, great device



    I was talking about ipads

    My children are 9 & 12, they both have one. We are quite keen on comps in this house. And I felt rather than netbooks or laptops we felt the iPads were more suitable for what they would be doing. We also have one big comp shared by everyone. They are not allowed to leave the house( the iPads that is)

    I don't think either of them need nor are mature enough for iPhones.

    I don't think your out of touch, it's your choice.

    I will say though my 1 year old can navigate round on it, watches elmo etc. And my complete technophobe of a father uses mine as it as it is easy to use. He visits and first words are where is your computer thing...he sits scans the Internet and then says to me "eeeh I don't like computers, eeeh this is good isn't it, . It's amusing that he hates comps so much but likes my iPad yet does not realise it.

    The thing here is simple, choose the machine that is right for the job.

    Original Poster

    Ok, U lot make me feel a bit better about myself. He has a phone my 11 nearly 12 year old. He doesn't need an Iphone or ipad! He has a phone on contract which I pay for, I think it's just stupid pressure that makes him feel he needs an Ipone or Ipad! will leave it till they are older! I do have 5 kids ranging from 27 t0 5, even my older ones don't have them! but I am not prepared to keep up with the Jonese's u know what I mean! Mobile phone ok, I pad and phone when they are 14-15 maybe, Thanks for all the comments

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    Hissy Miss

    My 14yo has the iphone 3gs and has had it for a year and a half and it's … My 14yo has the iphone 3gs and has had it for a year and a half and it's been the best value for money. As a younger child he was bought numerous toys and remote controlled cars etc that were never played with from the week after they were bought. The iphone has been in use daily and he's taken great care of it.Of course he doesn't need it, we don't need most of the materialistic crap we have in our homes but it's just the way it is. He's obviously going to get something at christmas so instead of getting gifts he didn;t want that would all add up to roughly the same price as an Iphone, all the family chipped together to get him it.Getting your kids cheap tat that they wont use is just false economy.



    Yep but my boy's 11 nearly 12, Great for the older ones!

    I don't see why a child needs an iPad, maybe a ds or something, fine but for all there Internet needs the family computer should do fine. I'm not even that old but I was only allowed 20 mins of Internet access when I was 15 so I didn't block the phone up for "potentially important calls"!!

    Parents seem very stupid these days i think. I have said it before but I was watching a program about teen sex and this 14 year old boy had his own laptop (among other things). They asked if the boy ever visited pornographic sites and he said yes, and the parents were shocked!! What do they expect!!! At 14 I was bashing one out as soon as the littlewood catalogue was delivered, if I had access to the Internet you wouldn't have seen me for days!!!

    Anyway point of the story is have a realistic expectation of what you want your children exposed to and tailor what they have accordingly. If you want to give your child a laptop/iPad don't be suprised if they aren't playing on farmville all day

    My son has had a phone since he started high school mainly due to him having to catch a bus home from school. I needed to know if he missed it. He is now 14 and we are letting him have his dads old 3GS iPhone. He will make very few calls on it and we will mainly text. We have bought many apps including games for his younger brothers touch so he can use it in the house with the wifi and has a small Internet allowance when not on wifi.
    I wouldn't have got him a new iPhone and we don't have an iPad. He does have his own netbook as he is already doing GCSE's but at the moment that stays in the house and he has never asked to take it out. It's not the use of the products that bothers me but if someone tried to take it off him.

    I'm now 18, but appreciate my iPhone massively more than I would've done if my parents had bought it for me - I saved for just over a year and to the day can't afford the contract for it - My parents have always said they'll clothe us well and feed us nice food etc... but luxuries like that have to be bought by ourselves...

    gbspurs

    I don't see why a child needs an iPad, maybe a ds or something, fine but … I don't see why a child needs an iPad, maybe a ds or something, fine but for all there Internet needs the family computer should do fine. I'm not even that old but I was only allowed 20 mins of Internet access when I was 15 so I didn't block the phone up for "potentially important calls"!!Parents seem very stupid these days i think. I have said it before but I was watching a program about teen sex and this 14 year old boy had his own laptop (among other things). They asked if the boy ever visited pornographic sites and he said yes, and the parents were shocked!! What do they expect!!! At 14 I was bashing one out as soon as the littlewood catalogue was delivered, if I had access to the Internet you wouldn't have seen me for days!!! Anyway point of the story is have a realistic expectation of what you want your children exposed to and tailor what they have accordingly. If you want to give your child a laptop/iPad don't be suprised if they aren't playing on farmville all day




    I think there is a good element o this, my son is almost 13, and to be honest i did expect him to have a curiosity by certain sites, we have discussed it a few times, but if he wants access ti them he will find a way regardless, they are also told and shown things at schools, my son has told me the older kids watch alsorts inc porn on their phones. I cannot shield him from this, but i can prepare him and discuss what he is going to come across on both the net and real life. It's pointless hiding and hoping it won't happen, because it will and giving your children the information and skills to judge and deal with situations is a key part of growing up

    when i was a nipper, we didn't have mobile phones or any way of keeping in contact with home, apart from phone boxes. There were still murderers,muggers & pedophiles about, but we still managed to get to school ok or go off for hours on end & only come home when our stomachs started to rumble.
    Yes I agree we are in the digital age, but I still think we need constraints on what our children really need. With our kids, they only had things because we felt it was time for them to have them, not because little Jonny at school has one, we've never been in with the "keeping up with the Joneses" crowd ! & they've not suffered any less from it, in fact they have grown to appreciate things more .

    Edited by: "richp" 22nd Apr 2011

    Banned

    My 9 year old has an iPhone 4 only got it cos I didn't want it though

    She is getting an iPad for her birthday , personally don't think it's too young, my 18 month old can work my iPad better than me X)

    I will also say my kids don't need iPads, but they enjoy them and get both educational and fun out of them, they are good kids who are not rude, and try hard a school in return they get nice things. I like to see my children happy, as i said they don't need, but truthfully, there are lots of things we need as a whole, how many people can say our microwave/electric toothbrushes etc are an absolute essential, they arnt, but they make life easier and more comfortable.
    We use mac and pc at home, and my children are pretty capable on a range of technology and infact my daughter school has supplied the kids with iPod touches for recording and documenting tasks/educational games etc and they use iPads in class.
    Edited by: "skellysgirl" 22nd Apr 2011

    Tell me bout it i gotta get a DSLR Camera for my 15 year old Daughters Bday, £350 and she wants one for £550 lol they just dont appreciate things these days!

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    Goofeys Girl

    My son has had a phone since he started high school mainly due to him … My son has had a phone since he started high school mainly due to him having to catch a bus home from school. I needed to know if he missed it.



    I don't know maybe I'm old fashioned or have 2 more brain cells than your son, but if I missed the bus I walked to the school reception and asked them if they would ring my mum please as I had missed the bus,. If I was at home I would walk back into my house and say "mum I've missed the bus, can you give me a lift please".

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    lumoruk

    I don't know maybe I'm old fashioned or have 2 more brain cells than your … I don't know maybe I'm old fashioned or have 2 more brain cells than your son, but if I missed the bus I walked to the school reception and asked them if they would ring my mum please as I had missed the bus,. If I was at home I would walk back into my house and say "mum I've missed the bus, can you give me a lift please".



    How did we all manage to get to and from school in the last century?

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    master_chief

    How did we all manage to get to and from school in the last century?



    When I got to 14 I even cycled to school hell when I was 9 I used to walk my brother who was 8 to school, but then it was only half a mile to school.

    lumoruk

    When I got to 14 I even cycled to school hell when I was 9 I used to … When I got to 14 I even cycled to school hell when I was 9 I used to walk my brother who was 8 to school, but then it was only half a mile to school.



    but when you were younger there were no paedophiles roaming the streets.

    It is now a fact that 45% of people out in the streets during the school run hours are paedos or sex offenders

    numptyj

    but when you were younger there were no paedophiles roaming the … but when you were younger there were no paedophiles roaming the streets.It is now a fact that 45% of people out in the streets during the school run hours are paedos or sex offenders




    Rubbish, they have always been around, it is just that everybody is now paranoid about them.

    Nobody actually " needs " a mobile phone at all, of any description.

    Inactive

    Rubbish, they have always been around, it is just that everybody is now … Rubbish, they have always been around, it is just that everybody is now paranoid about them.Nobody actually " needs " a mobile phone at all, of any description.



    no they havent always been around, it has only been in recent years that they have learned to fully evolve and get hands on...

    Buy your kid a iphone or ipad at that age they will get robbed in no time.

    ants97

    yep if your kid hasn't got an iphone then how will they get in contact … yep if your kid hasn't got an iphone then how will they get in contact with you when gary glitter pulls up in his van. kids without iphones are a peados dream.



    Doesn't have to be an iphone!

    numptyj

    no they havent always been around, it has only been in recent years that … no they havent always been around, it has only been in recent years that they have learned to fully evolve and get hands on...



    Of course they have always been around, nothing new.

    numptyj

    but when you were younger there were no paedophiles roaming the … but when you were younger there were no paedophiles roaming the streets.It is now a fact that 45% of people out in the streets during the school run hours are paedos or sex offenders



    There's no way all the Catholic priests are up and about at that time in the morning!
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