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    American Hyprocrisy at it's finest.

    Whether or not anyone agrees or disagrees with the decision to release Al Megrahi, the smack talk from the good ole US of A is getting on my nerves. This whole 'Boycott Scotland' thing is an utter joke.

    I really cannot deal with the constant whining they're giving out with regard to this scenario. I'm not even going to get into America's warmongering nature, but take it back to WWII, and make particular reference to Rudolf Hess, Hitler's right hand man, convicted war criminal, no doubt responsible in part to the massacre of millions of Jews, not to mention the countless others lost during WWII.

    In the early 1970s, the U.S., British and French governments had approached the Soviet government to propose that Hess be released on humanitarian grounds due to his age. The Soviet official response was apparently to reject these attempts and reportedly "refused to consider any reduction in Hess's life sentence." U.S. President Richard Nixon was in favour of releasing Hess and stated that the U.S., Britain and France should continue to entreat the Soviet Union for his release.

    In 1977, Britain's chief prosecutor at Nuremberg, Sir Hartley Shawcross, characterised Hess's continued imprisonment as a "scandal." In 1987, the new Soviet leadership agreed that Hess should be set free on humanitarian grounds. Hess was aware of that decision.

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    Agreed 100%

    Banned

    This whole 'Boycott Scotland' thing is an utter joke.



    I make them right. This is precisely why the Scots need a helping hand to run their affairs.

    But the US is well bigger than our **** country so let's not try to **** them off eh?

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    guv;6096544

    I make them right. This is precisely why the Scots need a helping hand to … I make them right. This is precisely why the Scots need a helping hand to run their affairs.



    Very F&F of you, guv.:p

    Round Of Applause

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    moob;6096555

    Very F&F of you, guv.:p



    Thanks.:whistling:

    Banned

    StevenA2000_uk;6096529

    Agreed 100%



    +1!!!!!!!!!!

    All this is for the average joe, UK and US are after the trade with Libya and that's why he was released. In my opinion, the scot were shafted and Brown sitting on the fence.

    As for US ver UK, yes the are bigger and drum are bin but hallow.... and make lots of noise

    Possibly true although a hideously pathetic action to release the mass murderer

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    skusey;6096652

    Possibly true although a hideously pathetic action to release the mass … Possibly true although a hideously pathetic action to release the mass murderer



    +1

    Getting released is 1 thing

    but getting praised as a hero is a complete joke and that alone in my eyes deserves punishment

    odriscoll;6096553

    But the US is well bigger than our **** country so let's not try to **** … But the US is well bigger than our **** country so let's not try to **** them off eh?


    It's only because America are out allies we havent been bombed to **** by our enemies..

    We're an island... no protection whatsoever, yeah we have nukes, oh, only a few.

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    skusey;6096652

    Possibly true although a hideously pathetic action to release the mass … Possibly true although a hideously pathetic action to release the mass murderer



    It wasn't my intention to get into the debate over whether or not he should have been released, but since you're bringing it up...

    You do understand why they asked him to withdraw his 2nd appeal, and the incredibly ropey circumstances under which he was convicted in the first place, don't you?

    The evidence was so poor, it was amazing he was convicted in the 1st place. Had the second appeal taken place, he would be a free man anyway, and the world would be still out there looking for another terrorist. The man was a scapegoat.

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    J4GG4;6096717

    Getting released is 1 thingbut getting praised as a hero is a complete … Getting released is 1 thingbut getting praised as a hero is a complete joke and that alone in my eyes deserves punishment



    Can't disagree with that at all.

    I heard we released him and warned his country not to welcome him as a hero, it is stupid.

    "WELCOME HOME YOU BIG HERO, YOUR COUNTRY LOVES YOU"

    "Wait but we said not to...wait...ah **** it, let him go Gordon"

    Banned

    all countries have been guilty of Hypocrisy at some point or another

    This is why we need the death penalty .

    Can anyone remind me if this bloke was actually convicted or was held still as a suspect?

    J4GG4;6096717

    Getting released is 1 thingbut getting praised as a hero is a complete … Getting released is 1 thingbut getting praised as a hero is a complete joke and that alone in my eyes deserves punishment



    yeah but think about the sub standard health care they have there, hahahahahaha

    he will have a pain the ****

    adamkhan;6096777

    Can anyone remind me if this bloke was actually convicted or was held … Can anyone remind me if this bloke was actually convicted or was held still as a suspect?


    Convicted...

    He was sentenced to life...

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    adamkhan;6096777

    Can anyone remind me if this bloke was actually convicted or was held … Can anyone remind me if this bloke was actually convicted or was held still as a suspect?



    He was convicted.

    His conviction was on the basis that some Maltese shopkeeper said he recognised him as a customer who bought some clothes from his shop. Clothes that were discovered in the plane wreckage.

    moob;6096731

    It wasn't my intention to get into the debate over whether or not he … It wasn't my intention to get into the debate over whether or not he should have been released, but since you're bringing it up...You do understand why they asked him to withdraw his 2nd appeal, and the incredibly ropey circumstances under which he was convicted in the first place, don't you?The evidence was so poor, it was amazing he was convicted in the 1st place. Had the second appeal taken place, he would be a free man anyway, and the world would be still out there looking for another terrorist. The man was a scapegoat.



    Sorry, he was convicted which is enough evidence in my eyes, hope he dies in huge pain:thumbsup:

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    dog_cop;6096772

    all countries have been guilty of Hypocrisy at some point or another



    Indeed.

    But it doesn't excuse fuelling and inciting the boycotting of a nation and it's products on that basis.

    Quick example: I really didn't agree with the manner in which the Americans held hundreds captive without trial, carried out illegal torture against the Geneva Convention in G-Bay, but I didn't stop buying Coca Cola.

    moob;6096796

    He was convicted.His conviction was on the basis that some Maltese … He was convicted.His conviction was on the basis that some Maltese shopkeeper said he recognised him as a customer who bought some clothes from his shop. Clothes that were discovered in the plane wreckage.



    and paid millions by the US and ran away to Australia.......

    the break in at the baggage warehouse the night before the bombing which has been refused any investigation is what disturbs me most..........

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    skusey;6096808

    Sorry, he was convicted which is enough evidence in my eyes, hope he dies … Sorry, he was convicted which is enough evidence in my eyes, hope he dies in huge pain:thumbsup:



    That's a very ignorant statement to make.

    I take it you feel the same about the hundreds of overturned convictions the world over, and those now free deserved their incarceration in the first place?

    :thumbsup:

    moob;6096846

    That's a very ignorant statement to make.I take it you feel the same … That's a very ignorant statement to make.I take it you feel the same about the hundreds of overturned convictions the world over, and those now free deserved their incarceration in the first place?



    not if they are overturned, no:thumbsup:

    (although his wasnt)

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    Alfonse;6096829

    and paid millions by the US and ran away to Australia.......the break in … and paid millions by the US and ran away to Australia.......the break in at the baggage warehouse the night before the bombing which has been refused any investigation is what disturbs me most..........



    Indeed. There were more holes in that case than a Tetley Tea Bag.

    Doesn't stop the drones from shouting their opinions from the rooftops though.

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    skusey;6096862

    :thumbsup:not if they are overturned, no:thumbsup:(although his wasnt)



    Yeah, his wasn't because he was told to drop it. Thereby denying him the opportunity.

    I take it you know sod all about the circumstances of this case, as that's the way it appears.:whistling:

    moob;6096876

    Yeah, his wasn't because he was told to drop it. Thereby denying him the … Yeah, his wasn't because he was told to drop it. Thereby denying him the opportunity.I take it you know sod all about the circumstances of this case, as that's the way it appears.:whistling:



    as much as you I suspect, what I have read:)

    Original Poster

    Have a gander at this article then...

    Exert:

    Megrahi's conviction was a shocker. No material evidence was presented … Megrahi's conviction was a shocker. No material evidence was presented linking him to the bombing, let alone any evidence that he put the bomb on the plane or that he handled any explosives. Even the prosecution subsequently questioned the credibility of its star witness.



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    They pretty much boycotted France when they refused to support Bush on Iraq, too. Powell agreed they would suffer for their lack of support, Hannity told all of his listeners/viewers not to visit France, shunned French restaurants and produce, changed "French Fries" to "Freedom Fries" (despite the fact that French fries are originally from Belgium) and countless other childless acts. It seems they forgot the support France showed them over the years from the American War of Independence to being one of the first to condemn the 9/11 attacks.

    I'm not Anti-American whatsoever, but they throw their toys out of the pram often and so after a short while of condemning the Scots and showing to the world that their own stance on terrorists and terrorism hasn't waned, it will no doubt be forgotten or brushed under the carpet.
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