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    I have a ConRoe945G-DVI mobo and ever since i tried to update the bios via windows ) i know not a nice thing to do) everytime i reboot or turn off the pc and turn it back on it just won't boot up. I have to take the battery out of the mobo far a few min and use the jumper to reset it and then sometimes it'll boot up ? Anyone know what is causing this ?

    When i upgraded the bios everything went as it should and was told to reboot and i did and this is when it 1st wouldn't boot back up.

    I'm not too worried about it because i have another mobo coming tomorrow but would like to sell this one on so i was hoping to fix this problem 1st.

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    when you install a new bios sometimes the settings get reset. check over the settings to make sure it isnt something silly.

    Have you tried switching it off then on again?

    Original Poster

    mwaters28;2203589

    Have you tried switching it off then on again?


    i believe i said that in my 1st post when i turn it off and back on it will not boot unless i remove the battery and use the jumper pins to reset it.

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    imranmaz;2203558

    when you install a new bios sometimes the settings get reset. check over … when you install a new bios sometimes the settings get reset. check over the settings to make sure it isnt something silly.


    I've look at the settings i didn't see anything that really needed to be changed.

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    zeus9876;2203609

    I've look at the settings i didn't see anything that really needed to be … I've look at the settings i didn't see anything that really needed to be changed.



    google problems with the bios if others have the same issue then rollback.

    if you still have the same problem then you have done something to the bios even though it said it went ok. find your warranty papers...

    Original Poster

    don't need warranty papers as i have another board coming tomorrow. Just wanted to see if this was an easy fix before i tred to sell it on

    Original Poster

    i may try it again just before i install the new board tomorrow

    If you're getting a new mobo does that mean this one is quite old? How old is the battery? Could it need replaced? It could just be coincidental that it happened about time when you were updating BIOS.

    :oops: the it crowd.

    did'nt make it past problem.

    Get well soon.

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    LadyMadonna;2203698

    If you're getting a new mobo does that mean this one is quite old? How … If you're getting a new mobo does that mean this one is quite old? How old is the battery? Could it need replaced? It could just be coincidental that it happened about time when you were updating BIOS.


    doubt it the battery, mobo only less than 1yr old

    ok, maybe I'm being a bit thick here but when you say you updated the BIOS via windows, what exactly do you mean by that? Did you connect somewhere and flash the BIOS or did you just press f2 or whatever to change the settings?

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    zeus9876;2203649

    don't need warranty papers as i have another board coming tomorrow. Just … don't need warranty papers as i have another board coming tomorrow. Just wanted to see if this was an easy fix before i tred to sell it on



    if you RMA it then you can sell the new mobo.

    try rolling back the bios

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    LadyMadonna;2203805

    ok, maybe I'm being a bit thick here but when you say you updated the … ok, maybe I'm being a bit thick here but when you say you updated the BIOS via windows, what exactly do you mean by that? Did you connect somewhere and flash the BIOS or did you just press f2 or whatever to change the settings?



    oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.

    rolback the normal way mate.

    imranmaz;2203834

    oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the … oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the normal way mate.



    Sorry for butting in, should you only update via Linux? Just curious. :thinking:

    imranmaz;2203834

    oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the … oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the normal way mate.



    Hi, could you let me know how you update via windows as I've never heard of it before. I tried googling it but couldn't find anything. Is it some sort of old skool thing or something?

    Not something I'm likely to try but just curious as to how it's done.

    Original Poster

    updating via windows is just a matter of running an exe file of the bios and then rebooting

    Original Poster

    imranmaz;2203834

    oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the … oh sheet I missed that. you should NEVER update via windows.rolback the normal way mate.


    was never very good doing things the "normal" way LOL
    Wouldn't even know where to start

    but you downloaded the exe file right?

    So it's like a utility and not actually windows?

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    razta;2203942

    Sorry for butting in, should you only update via Linux? Just curious. … Sorry for butting in, should you only update via Linux? Just curious. :thinking:



    LadyMadonna;2204057

    Hi, could you let me know how you update via windows as I've never heard … Hi, could you let me know how you update via windows as I've never heard of it before. I tried googling it but couldn't find anything. Is it some sort of old skool thing or something?Not something I'm likely to try but just curious as to how it's done.



    zeus9876;2204178

    updating via windows is just a matter of running an exe file of the bios … updating via windows is just a matter of running an exe file of the bios and then rebooting



    LadyMadonna;2204216

    but you downloaded the exe file right? So it's like a utility and not … but you downloaded the exe file right? So it's like a utility and not actually windows?



    zeus9876;2204186

    was never very good doing things the "normal" way LOLWouldn't even know … was never very good doing things the "normal" way LOLWouldn't even know where to start



    for people trying to heckle (if you were trying to heckle):

    Typically it involves downloading the new BIOS image and an installation program, often in the same file, copying them to a bootable floppy disk, booting from that floppy, and running the installation program... this does not run in "Windows" the BIOS is under the OS layer. when you have a new HDD with nothing on it how do you install windows?? the BIOS is like an operating system built into the MOTHERBOARD which allows you to install windows onto a HARD DISK DRIVE which the BIOS will use to boot from to enter windows.

    recently, (I dont know how recently google it) some motherboards give you the option to flash the bios using an application within windows. these applications are notoriously bad at updating the BIOS which is why I never use them.

    IF you dont have a floppy drive then use a USB stick instead. UPDATE THE BIOS VIA THE BOOTABLE USB STICK/FLOPPY not via the application that sits on your hard drive and uses windows to execute.

    zeus rollback your bios using the typical method. ie the floppy drive or usb bootable file. dont update via the application in windows. use the manual for the motherboard (download it if you dont have a copy) and it will explain how to do it.

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    LadyMadonna;2204057

    Hi, could you let me know how you update via windows as I've never heard … Hi, could you let me know how you update via windows as I've never heard of it before. I tried googling it but couldn't find anything. Is it some sort of old skool thing or something?Not something I'm likely to try but just curious as to how it's done.



    gigabyte.com.tw/Sup…spx

    asrock(and a few other companies) have produced a bios update which runs under windows, its quite all right as long as you are sure your system is clean, i've done a few of these boards ok.

    Only rule i would say that really counts (and no one does) is don't flash unless your machine is attached to a UPS
    any way zeus, its likely it's just a memory conflict that windows hasn't picked up on,
    if u have any external cards/usb devices un-install software for them/remove them, then go thru setup for them again. one at a time
    Also asrock boards can be quite confusing are you sure you got the right one/bios?

    Don't know if you were saing i was trying to heckle, far from it, I've studied computing for years and never heard of it so was genuinly curious.

    I thought the OP meant he updated the BIOS using tools within windows that I had never heard of and wanted to check it out.

    As it stand though this isn't the case and it's actually an independant windows BASED utility that is being run which will flash the BIOS while windows is being run.

    All cleared up now.

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    LadyMadonna;2204533

    Don't know if you were saing i was trying to heckle, far from it, I've … Don't know if you were saing i was trying to heckle, far from it, I've studied computing for years and never heard of it so was genuinly curious.I thought the OP meant he updated the BIOS using tools within windows that I had never heard of and wanted to check it out.As it stand though this isn't the case and it's actually an independant windows BASED utility that is being run which will flash the BIOS while windows is being run.All cleared up now.



    re heckle: no I was referring to razta.

    as for your question; not its not a windows component that allows a bios update as motherboards update the bios differently. its an application that runs on windows. but you have answered your own question. :thumbsup:

    Thanks, that was why I questioned it in the first place, it's all theory I know, not too hot on the practical stuff so I question just about everything I don't understand...

    You can tell the lectrurers love me........ You know one was actually teaching us about memory and how it's either volatile or non volatile with volatile needing a power source and when I questioned her about memory pens (early days of my study) she actually told me that they must have a battery inside.

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    LadyMadonna;2204651

    Thanks, that was why I questioned it in the first place, it's all theory … Thanks, that was why I questioned it in the first place, it's all theory I know, not too hot on the practical stuff so I question just about everything I don't understand...You can tell the lectrurers love me........ You know one was actually teaching us about memory and how it's either volatile or non volatile with volatile needing a power source and when I questioned her about memory pens (early days of my study) she actually told me that they must have a battery inside.



    hehe! I do the same.. its shocking how little lecturers know when you push the boundary a little... even when they are experts in that field.

    I finished my final year at uni a few weeks ago. did computer science at kings.

    I learnt about the bios stuff cause I built my first custom computer last summer and it wouldnt go into sleep mode correctly... well break out of it! needed a bios update but it reset the settings an killed my RAID stripe! so lost my OS!

    Original Poster

    I will try the normal method in a bit and let you know how i get on.

    zeus9876;2205850

    I will try the normal method in a bit and let you know how i get on.



    really not a good idea, until you have confirmed the cause of this issue
    btw you did enter the bios and select load default settings as per the instructions?

    Original Poster

    yup loaded default and optimal stll get the same thing. I have now found that if i just let the PC sit for a few min in the OFF position it will boot after i turn it on and off about 3 times and i don't need to remove the battery or use the clear cmos jumper. So i really don't know.....Never had this problem before. But anyways i am finished messing with it and will just wait for my new board and sell this one with that fault and let someone else fix it. Could just need windows re-installed maybe ? Could work fine for someone else so when i sell it someone will get a bargin i suppose...

    Anyways thanks for all the help everyone.

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    BTW you are all talking mince , you do not update your BIOS through Windows

    You would update your BIOS through it manufacturer ie the make of your motherboard. (Asus, etc )

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    Some manufacturers use a default PASSWORD on their motherboards this could be the problem.

    Usually the password is to allow access to the BIOS. But when you remove the battery from the motherboard it will clear the password.

    so if you know the password reset it OR buy a new battery.

    But honestly you deserve what you get, as you should never mess about with stuff like your BIOS unless you know wot your doing and its not recommended to upgrade Bios unless your manufacturer instructs you to do so.

    But these days you would just upgrade your motherboard instead.

    Original Poster

    thanks for your useful input
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