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    Any advice about plecs ( catfish) mines vanished!!

    Hi all I know this is totally off the HOT deals topics however im wondering if there are any fish keepers in here? Ive got a tropical aquariam tank with zebra denos x6 Platies x 3 and Gouramis X 2 which are all happy , water levels all testing fine etc. I introduced a plec catfish to the aquariam 3 weeks ago ( to eat algae) etc and with in 2 days of getting him HES VANISHED! Ive put it down to * him hiding* as i know they prefer coming out at night,but 3 weeks and 2 water changes, ive plodded around moving rockery and plants etc with NO luck. I fear the worst that maybe he was poorly, died, then my other fish feasted on the poor plec!!
    People are still saying he could still be hiding! BUT WHERE! LOL
    Aliens got him>! Can anyone shine any light on this? Would the catfish hide away to die and would my other fish EAT IT!!:x
    Im wanting to add another one but to scared incase the same happens!

    Sorry Ive rambled on but its like something out of a CSI series!
    :whistling:

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    Don't catfish burrow in the gravel stuff- when I was a kid we had a massive aquarium and our plecs used to make a real racket :giggle:

    On the downside, one of our fighting fish disappeared once, when we took the hood off the tank to start cleaning a week later, he was dead on the plastic bit above the light- nice bit of slow cooked fish :-( :giggle:

    If he's died in the tank then he would be eaten probably, sorry :-(

    since he disapeared 2 days after you got him and not been sean since I'd say hes dead. If you have a bridge check under it upside down if you know what I mean. Mine hides there all the time

    How big is your tank?

    I've had a fish tank for a couple of years and been a member to quite a few tropical fish tank sites, The most common problem was shops would sell common plecs to people with 2 foot tanks, They (the plecs) would feel really stressed and were stunned as they couldn't grow properly.

    Anyway, On with the actually issue.

    None of the fish you've listed are likely to eat the pleco, Unless very hungry!!

    Original Poster

    Hi , thank for response, Weve got a Duel Deep 800 tank which is 80 litres, deep rather than wide. The plec was only about an inch when bought so i think maybe it was poorly or got stressed and died.
    Hubs has just thoroughly checked the tank and no sign what so ever.
    Maybe opt for a brittle nose catfish now?

    Thanks all

    A bristle nose catfish would be more suited to your tank :thumbsup:

    have you checked behind the pumps? Mine always used to do that...in fact a lot of my fishies do that... I had a plec for 3 years and most of the time if he wasnt suckering on the front he'd be behind the pump- presumably a nice selection of debris and things to eat. They're quite hardy fish so unless it looked ill when you got it they dont tend to drop off without a warning

    Original Poster

    Yep had pump out to check,and to be honest he looked healthy when he was bought.The tank has lots of real plants,hiding caves, rocks etc but it seriously has Vanished. My feeling is maybe i wasnt healthy infact and hid away to die then other fish ate it.....Mind you this fish was bought from a differernt shop to all the others so i wont be going back there incase it was unwell! Hubs went back to the shop recently to ask advice and he was told" Get bevived up one night and stay up to see if it comes out" All the other fish are fine and get on well. Even was i introduced the plec the other fish wasnt bothered with it.

    I've got 2 large aquariums set up and have had them both for years now (1tropical and 1 marine tank)...when I first started out I was a bit miffed at the fact I never got to see the plec which had a habbit of hiding for as long as possible and seemed to have no concern for the money I'd forked out to get him (lol)!

    My uncle then suggested, based on his experiences from keeping reptiles, resting some slate or basically creating a small cave type structure against an edge of the glass (either the front or side, so you can easily view). Obviously the shy fish like to hide and tend to go there, with it resting against the glass you can still get the opportunity to see them.

    in case i explained it **** here is a link to a reptile "cave" that mimics the idea:

    blackjungle.com/Mer…JTS

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    Hi Martyn ,well its been about 2 months now and still no sign of him, weve added various other fish etc,, one siamese fighter, 2 dwarf gouramis and one brittle nose cat fish. The brittle nose catfish is out all the time.... when i removed the large rock recently a lot of white thread bits came out... i was wondering if maybe that was the plecs remains?.... My three blue spot gourami thing is quite dominant! Keeps chasing the other one AND the 2 dwarf ones! Keeps backing them into corners... nasty thing, im going to take it out if it continues....... ps ive now got a cave type thing for the brittlenose,,, he loves it!

    Be careful with a Siamese fighter, They do exactly that, Bully every other fish in the tank, Which they probably will become stressed and die as a result, Who recommended one?, Thats not a fish you want in a community tank at all.

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    Bloke in aquariam place said one would be ok in tank but not 2 unless one female and one male.Cant have same sexs as they fight.The siamese is really nice and dont bully, he just swims about in his own world.. its the three spot gourami thats a nasty pasty. lol Im watching it now chasing the dwarf gourami!

    In my experience the Siamese fighters fight with anything with big colourful tails (like guppys) etc.

    But the Blue spot Gourami should be ok, Maybe its just stressed?

    Original Poster

    I wont get any fish thats bright or anything then, dont want siamese turning nasty, Gourami is really horrible,pushes and pushed the other gouramis into the corners so they are hiding behind the pump!
    I think he thinks hes the king of the tank...Only time they are all out is when tank light is off and the low green dim light goes on. Then the gourami stops chasing.. maybe he cant see well in that light ! Ive go another tank upstairs with only plants in at mo, i will use that as my hospital at this rate! I will upload a pic of my tank to show you( when i can find my blue tooth dongle!) ... bare with me ...

    In my exp, gouramis are always aggressive. I have to agree, that the plec had been eaten, same happened to mine once, but plecs grow pretty quick and now nobody bothers my current one!

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    Have you seen evan almighty where he sits infront of the fish tank and the fish go to him and move with him as he moves? My fish do that, lol put your face up against the tank and move slowly, they follow me!LOL mind you they are probably thinking * Stop acting a dic* and just bloody feed us! * lol

    pcnutta

    I wont get any fish thats bright or anything then, dont want siamese … I wont get any fish thats bright or anything then, dont want siamese turning nasty, Gourami is really horrible,pushes and pushed the other gouramis into the corners so they are hiding behind the pump! I think he thinks hes the king of the tank...Only time they are all out is when tank light is off and the low green dim light goes on. Then the gourami stops chasing.. maybe he cant see well in that light ! Ive go another tank upstairs with only plants in at mo, i will use that as my hospital at this rate! I will upload a pic of my tank to show you( when i can find my blue tooth dongle!) ... bare with me ...



    Also, I find that siamese fighters attack anything that 'pretty' and not just bright. Fish with fancy tails, like a guppy or an angel.

    pcnutta

    Have you seen evan almighty where he sits infront of the fish tank and … Have you seen evan almighty where he sits infront of the fish tank and the fish go to him and move with him as he moves? My fish do that, lol put your face up against the tank and move slowly, they follow me!LOL mind you they are probably thinking * Stop acting a dic* and just bloody feed us! * lol



    Lmao, mine do exactly that! They know when its feeding time!

    Original Poster

    I dont have angel fish or guppies, ive seen the siamese swell up in * fight* mode once or twice to my dwarf gouramis but they are a lovely yellow colour so maybe they think they are other siamese?... the dwarfs totally ignore this and swim on, the siamese then deflates face and swims off! very entertaining to watch..... but so far so good, only three spot gourami is naughty! hes going to be grounded!:giggle:

    Ahhh wow! Its a shame you can only keep one of these per tank, they are so pretty and come in every colour imaginable!

    D4M, If you don't mind me asking, Are you male or female? :?

    Male

    Have so much respect for animals as you may have noticed!

    Original Poster

    Iom lol i could tell he was male!

    Original Poster

    Deal4Me

    Male :)Have so much respect for animals as you may have noticed!


    Me to apart from wasps!!

    They hate me i hate them. End of... Survival of the fittest,they try to sting me before i hit them with books!:giggle:

    pcnutta

    Iom lol i could tell he was male!



    How?

    Some of his posts on For sale and trade made me think "definitely male", But some of his posts in Misc and random nonsense made me wonder if he was female! :giggle:

    Lmao, just shows how stereotyping will always be around!

    pcnutta - I hate wasps too lol

    Deal4Me

    Lmao, just shows how stereotyping will always be around!



    Not so much stereo typing, But there are far less males who share their feelings than their female counter parts!!

    No offence intended BTW, Nothing wrong with being caring, I'd like to think i'm a caring sort too.

    Non taken.

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    Deal4Me

    Lmao, just shows how stereotyping will always be around!pcnutta - I hate … Lmao, just shows how stereotyping will always be around!pcnutta - I hate wasps too lol





    Ih great no good asking you to go in my bathroom then! LOL

    :giggle:

    I'll go in your bathroom Nutta and let the thing out of the window!, Only if you've flushed the loo first though!, lol!

    Original Poster

    LOL IOM MY HERO!! I did flush, it was a run in, flush, run out, slam door!

    I need therapy with this wasp phobia i swear! suppose i could set my gourmi on wasps! LOL

    Haven't you got any wasp/bee repelant spray stuff?

    Original Poster

    Nope, however im sure the aroma:giggle: has killed him by now! LOL
    Daughter due home any minute SHE can go in and wrestle with it ! LMAO

    How about your hubbys dodgy aftershave?...........

    lol!

    Original Poster

    I know the stuff.. the aftershave bottles you get for xmas from cousins etc, thats so cheap and nasty ! I use them for my oil burners ! LOL diluted they arnt to bad as air freshners! :giggle:

    Do you usually get fish from this store? Difficulties can arise with acclimatisation - it is far too tempting to just plonk it in, or let the temperature equalise but not bother putting some tank water in the bag to let the fish get used to the new water hardness & acidity/alkilinity. Can easily harm plecs. I personally would go for an ottinoculus in a tank that size - stick to huge tanks with common plecs & L number plecs. If you do ever get a larger tank I can highly reccomend Zebra Plecs - expensive but worth every penny.

    Zebra plecs are amazing!, Very expensive but well worth it and very fascinating!

    Sadly common plecs (and other large growing fish) are sold to people with small tanks, In the hope they'll read up and go "oh no, Got to get a bigger fish tank" and go back to that store!, All about the money!

    Big growing fish in small tanks are basically stunned, This does harm the fish and knocks years off an already miserable life.

    A Bristlenose's grow to around 6 inches, Which is probably borderline for this tank, But not every Bristlenose grows to 6 inches, Some only 4 etc.

    I'd still go with an otto or two - they are awfully cute after all & very hardy once established. Shrimp are another fairly good buy considering they cost mere pence - good dietry variety for the other fish too.

    I really like Catfish too, I've got 3 (minimum I know, But my tank is quite small) peppered corys and they are fascinating to watch!)

    Can you get shrimp for tropical tanks or just marine?

    Would look nice, what are they like with other fish? Id imagine fish would try to eat them?
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