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    Any espresso experts here? Advice needed!

    Am looking to buy a semi-decent "bean-to-cup" automatic espresso machine as I hate to pay 60 quid to Nespresso every quarter or so. Looking to pay less than 300 quid if possible.

    In this price range there are only two machines on the market and both made by DeLonghi - ESAM3200 and ESAM4200. Both sold for about the same price, but I can't figure out what is the difference between two (besides aestetics, of course).

    What's your opinion on:
    1. DeLonghi as a espresso machinery maker?
    2. The models listed above?

    Help is really appreciated (I only have 20 capsules of Nespresso left!)

    17 Comments

    [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]You're really limiting yourself by wanting it to be a coffee grinder as well as an expresso machine, my parents have a delongi and I'm not impressed. My advice would be to buy them separately, get a cheap grinder and then go for a pavoni, duallit or similar expresso machine. Good luck![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

    i'd agree - far better with a high quality pumped machine and a good burr grinder and probably cheaper than a bean to cup machine!

    Original Poster

    ]chrysha

    Well... I just want to have automatic machine which makes half-decent coffee. I've got manual grinder, so if I really would like to have some very good cuppa (or very bad one, depends on my grinding skills) I could use it, I guess.

    May I ask you what is the reason you are not impressed with your parents' DeLonghi?

    ]niallmoran

    Can you please define "high quality" machine? I know from experience that Krups is rubbish (at least those 3 models I had). Gaggia and Jura got all sorts of problems according to internet gurus (not that I ever owned either machine). LaCimbali at work needs to be repaired on monthlu basis. So what would you recommend?

    At the moment i've got an Iberital grinder which is superb and great value:

    happydonkey.co.uk/hd0…tml

    My machine is a Morphy Richard Roma which is not bad for the money but i would like one of these:

    happydonkey.co.uk/hd0…tml

    Better start saving my pennies :-D

    I remember a few weeks ago they tested some machines on channel 5's Gadget Show. There might be something on their website. I would look but I don't have time at the mo. Hope that helps anyway

    Original Poster

    ]niallmoran

    Uhm... don't think I am going to spend THAT much on coffee machine

    ]donnydude

    Thanks for advice. I checked their website and there are 5 machines they tested. Not much description of how these tests were performed though...

    hehe - it is a bit pricey :-D

    Found this webby which seems like a good guide...just having a read through myself while i ponder a new machine.

    coffeegeek.com/gui…ine

    Original Poster

    Well... "a bit pricey" part was an understatement

    The reviews on that site are quite sympathetic towards DeLonghi Magnifica, everyone seems to repeat the same mantra "easy to use, quick, makes decent coffee, but not for real coffee pros". Sounds just like what I need

    i think i might try and sneak one of these past the missus :-D

    myespresso.co.uk/pro…ine

    Original Poster

    The Gaggia Syncrony Logic and Saeco Odeo Go also look good. Decisions, decisions...

    they do look pretty neat - i think gaggia own saeco so probably similar quality...

    actually, its the other way around - saeco own gaggia....i must admit that although i like the geekiness of a separate grinder and all the fiddling the wee bean to cup machines do look very handy - would be good to just push a button in the morning rather than tweaking the grind and getting the tamping right etc etc :-D

    Remember your ABC's of coffee making!

    Aroma, Body & Crema.....:oops: Stupid cafe....

    Kommunist;2606355

    ]chryshaWell... I just want to have automatic machine which makes … ]chryshaWell... I just want to have automatic machine which makes half-decent coffee. I've got manual grinder, so if I really would like to have some very good cuppa (or very bad one, depends on my grinding skills) I could use it, I guess.May I ask you what is the reason you are not impressed with your parents' DeLonghi?]niallmoranCan you please define "high quality" machine? I know from experience that Krups is rubbish (at least those 3 models I had). Gaggia and Jura got all sorts of problems according to internet gurus (not that I ever owned either machine). LaCimbali at work needs to be repaired on monthlu basis. So what would you recommend?


    It keeps breaking down and doesn't make good coffee!

    Original Poster

    Thanks everyone! Rep given.

    did you decide what to go for in the end?

    Original Poster

    Yup. I bought DeLonghi Magnifica ESAM4200.
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