Any mechanics on here who can help? think we might have had an over priced quote

62 replies
Found 19th May 2011
need help before the mechanic we have just received a quote from totally scams us, we have a Grande Punto 06 plate.

Problems we have with the car and rightfully should have been fixed before now are:

1. Clunking from the 2 front wheels every time we go over bumps etc
2. While sitting idle (engine on) the air vents when on pump oil smell into the cab
3. Drivers side electric window console not working
4. Car needs a full service

Quote and details from him are as follows: remember this is not including VAT

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Original Poster

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n305/bigbrother_08/carestimate.jpg

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thats about right to be honest, i got mugged on my fiat punto mk2 51 plate, it cost me £600 for new cambelt cover, full service, exhaust and a tyre and engine leak
Edited by: "riteondeals" 19th May 2011

Original Poster

Hmm ok so it looks fine then ?

And VAT to be added

Original Poster

Yes were going to be doing that

See what the other quotes come up with

Gallon of oil £30, did they see you cumming ?

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yeah price looks about right, you can get your oil £10 cheaper in tesco, Castrol or tesco own brand

Sounds about right to me tbh, giving you everything at price cost tbh, the oil filter is around five pound with VAT to buy. Even ask the guy if they can do it cash ? gets rid of that 20% VAT charge, alot o garages will do it.

I bought a 06 plate Grande Punto from new - the clunking sound is a known fault & was fixed by Fiat free of charge, and the oily smell is most likely being caused by a cracked pipe in the ventilation system that's letting in fumes (although my car had a smell of petrol instead of oil).

Unless they were damaged / broken I'd be questioning why he is changing your front 2 coils, unless it's because while he has got the suspension off he may as well. Other than that £180 labour seems fairly cheap, looking at least 3-4 hours work so labour charge isn't too bad.

Halfords wanted £380 to change just my front two springs, needless to say I waved them goodbye and replaced them myself fo rthe grand sum of £36.

No hate, op, but going off your username and now this thread, you really need to look at your preferences when it comes to car selection.

greg_68

Unless they were damaged / broken I'd be questioning why he is changing … Unless they were damaged / broken I'd be questioning why he is changing your front 2 coils, unless it's because while he has got the suspension off he may as well. Other than that £180 labour seems fairly cheap, looking at least 3-4 hours work so labour charge isn't too bad.Halfords wanted £380 to change just my front two springs, needless to say I waved them goodbye and replaced them myself fo rthe grand sum of £36.



Because of this i'd imagine,thats what the noise is,the coils.

Clunking from the 2 front wheels every time we go over bumps etc

An 06 car should not need new front suspension unless it has been driven badly, ie thrashed over speed humps etc.

Still it is a Fiat, so maybe that doesn't apply.(_;)

deb8z

Because of this i'd imagine,thats what the noise is,the coils.Clunking … Because of this i'd imagine,thats what the noise is,the coils.Clunking from the 2 front wheels every time we go over bumps etc



Springs will not be the clunking, unless they are broken.

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greg_68

Springs will not be the clunking, unless they are broken.



Which is quite likely surely?

The only thing that looks expensive is the oil, but its a garage, what do you expect. I use ford-spec in my tdci, which is quite expensive - but not that much.

The quote seems about right for a decent job.

It wouldn't be driveable if the springs were broken.

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greg_68

It wouldn't be driveable if the springs were broken.



Um ... yes it would. Quite easily. Depending on where its broken obviously. (MOT fail, but driveable)
Edited by: "vibeone" 19th May 2011

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tinkerbell28

A car is driveable if the srpings are broken. My Espace's spring snapped … A car is driveable if the srpings are broken. My Espace's spring snapped a month or so ago, drove it home and got it to a garage. That are huge springs.Seems about right tbh.



Of course its drivable. It's so driveable most people don't bother fixing until MOT time. greg_68 talks out of his bottom sometimes.

Sounds like suspension arm or whatever its call. Had mine replaced this week as the clunking over bumps and stuff was horrendous. That part was £70 with a £40 labour charge.

When I say it's not driveable I mean it's not driveable everyday and you's certainly know about it. Yes you can limp them home but it is highly dangerous to do so given that what often happens is the spring buries itself inot the tyre and shreds it.

Original Poster

While I was offshore Lisa put the car in to get quoted, the mechanic told her that

"'if the coils went (which are rusted) they could blow the tyre out"

Is that true or scare tactics? The car is drivable and we have been using it only to run about etc
Edited by: "saxo_appeal" 19th May 2011

saxo_appeal

While I was offshore Lisa put the car in to get quoted, the mechanic told … While I was offshore Lisa put the car in to get quoted, the mechanic told her that"'if the coils went (which are rusted) they could blow the tyre out"Is that true or scare tactics?



Put it this way I know 2 people in the last month whose springs have broke and buried themselves into the tyre and shredded it. Not too sure how you gauge the 'rustiness' of a spring though as most of the ones I have ever worked have been rusty to a degree.

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greg_68

Put it this way I know 2 people in the last month whose springs have … Put it this way I know 2 people in the last month whose springs have broke and buried themselves into the tyre and shredded it. Not too sure how you gauge the 'rustiness' of a spring though as most of the ones I have ever worked have been rusty to a degree.



You're very unlucky. I drove around in a old Astra with a broken spring on the drivers side for months. I checked it out and apparently the chances are so low only real duffers moan on about it.

You're more likely to have a blowout or get killed by a drunk driver.

Stop scaring people greg, just to try and get out of being wrong.

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greg_68

Put it this way I know 2 people in the last month whose springs have … Put it this way I know 2 people in the last month whose springs have broke and buried themselves into the tyre and shredded it. Not too sure how you gauge the 'rustiness' of a spring though as most of the ones I have ever worked have been rusty to a degree.



well then that would happen straight away, if the spring snaps at the top that isn't going to happen, in fact for you to know 2 people its happened to in a month is very unlucky.

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seems cheap to me!

Fair enough we can argue all we like but I spoke to the Halfords mechanic and he said over the last 3-4 months broken springs is probably their biggest hitter at the moment, he said they are doing 3 or 4 a day atm.

vibeone

You're very unlucky. I drove around in a old Astra with a broken spring … You're very unlucky. I drove around in a old Astra with a broken spring on the drivers side for months. I checked it out and apparently the chances are so low only real duffers moan on about it.You're more likely to have a blowout or get killed by a drunk driver.Stop scaring people greg, just to try and get out of being wrong.




The real " duffers " are people that knowingly drive potentially dangerous and illegal vehicles.

As I said in my earlier post - the clunking sound is a known fault & was fixed on my car free of charge by Fiat. I would ring a Fiat garage, tell them you have an 06 Grande Punto & that you're aware that there was an issue with the clunking & that a fix was provided, then ask them what the fix was. It may be that it's a simple/cheap thing to fix.

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greg_68

Fair enough we can argue all we like but I spoke to the Halfords mechanic … Fair enough we can argue all we like but I spoke to the Halfords mechanic and he said over the last 3-4 months broken springs is probably their biggest hitter at the moment, he said they are doing 3 or 4 a day atm.



No one suggested springs don't break, not even that you shouldn't fix them. Stick to your original argument please. You said 1) its undrivable, when it is and 2) its common for a broken spring to shread a tyre, which it isn't.

Original Poster

The mechanic also told Lisa that to fix a part on the car (and because punto's are compact) he would have to break a part to get to another part

Then the part that was broken would need to be renewed which is on the list to get fixed

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The real " duffers " are people that knowingly drive potentially … The real " duffers " are people that knowingly drive potentially dangerous and illegal vehicles.



A stupidly high proportion of the cars and HGVs on the road then?

Ever driven with a bust headlight? High level brake light out?

All MOT fails, all 'illegal'. And as dangerous as a broken spring in my view. As stated, if its gonna shred a tyre, likelyhood is it'll do that when it breaks, not afterwards.

The utter rubbish spouted on this forum from the uninformed unwashed is amazing.

BRB asking a halfords mechanic for advice. LOL.

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greg_68

Fair enough we can argue all we like but I spoke to the Halfords mechanic … Fair enough we can argue all we like but I spoke to the Halfords mechanic and he said over the last 3-4 months broken springs is probably their biggest hitter at the moment, he said they are doing 3 or 4 a day atm.



did he also say they are undrivable (which isn't the case) or did you just make that up?

vibeone

The utter rubbish spouted on this forum from the uninformed unwashed is … The utter rubbish spouted on this forum from the uninformed unwashed is amazing..



You got that bit right at least.

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You got that bit right at least.



Yep, yep I did, and to make it clear, since you're struggling, I meant you. Thanks.

Original Poster

Ok stop guys please, I need help not arguing

saxo_appeal

Ok stop guys please, I need help not arguing



I would just get more quotes if you have the time, but theres a quite a few problems being fixed some of it seems pretty fair. (Oils a bit pricey)

Unfortunately Punto's are pap and have too many problems to list. Can't believe your having so many problems with a car of it's age. High miler? I hope you get it sorted.

Also need to consider the reviews of the particular garage if you can find any or word of mouth, don't want them creating more problems through poor mechanics.

Had this once with an timing belt incorrectly fitted, the guy got sacked afterwards.

Look for a local garage that is a member of the Good Garage Scheme

The one I use is and they take it very seriously to keep a good reputation on there.

FIAT know in the garage trade as fix it again tomorrow......:D

Original Poster

Not a high millet Alex, just a normal daily commute

Got the car booked in again for Monday, do you think asking for VAT free if paid by cash is a good idea? Lol

Not a high millet Alex, just a normal daily commute Got the car booked in … Not a high millet Alex, just a normal daily commute Got the car booked in again for Monday, do you think asking for VAT free if paid by cash is a good idea? Lol



Cant do any harm can it.
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