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    Any Plumbers here? lol...Advice required

    Hey People

    I know its a random query but I've seen a lot of members of this site from various occupations post here, so guess there maybe a keen DIY or plumber here!

    Just noticed a spraying sound in the cistern of my en-suite. Opened it up and noticed that a part is spraying water, once the toilet is flushed. So I refilled the cistern and then the float went up and no water is spraying.

    Googled it and it doesn't look too bad I think....Anyone had experience of this before?

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    This is a stock picture by the way just thought I'd indicate what the issue is.

    Thanks in advance

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    don't worry, you'll get a response i'm sure. They'll just be an hour late.

    http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3016/8d7b1n.jpg

    dean3988;5160933



    erm... that looks suspiciously like a bedroom appliance for a man. not that id know what one of those looks like obviously.

    Original Poster

    Hopefully lol..

    and Thanks Dean for the pic..Don't know what I did wrong when trying to do that!

    Original Poster

    lol @ Jeds comment!

    I'm not a plumber...... I'm not even a doctor, I just get called Dr Love on a regular basis!

    When you flush the water in the cistern empties and if you look in and see water spraying thats is usually
    the valve end opened to re-fill the cistern, when the float reaches a certain level it s arm closes the attached
    valve stopping anymore water entering the cistern.

    so if the spraying is coming from anywhere else you would have to describe in a bit more detail.
    then a proper plumber might give u an answer !!

    you could post your problem on DIY.com

    good luck.

    edit: pics were not there when i posted !! & didn't notice the link too tired !! past my bedtime !
    from the pic - there maybe a thin rubber seal inside the screw fitting not sure
    if there is there's a fair chance a plumbing shop should match it,

    you should isolate the water supply to the cistern before removing - could be on pipe into cistern
    or yor main stopcock.
    pipe grips should loosen that cap.

    Original Poster

    Thanks for the reply mate!

    Can I not just unscrew only that part with its replacement? Is that possible or does the whole thing need replacing?

    i could be wrong but i agree with previous poster, chances are there is a rubber seal behind the blue screwey bit, just replace that, you could replace the whole thing from the blue screnut back if you want.

    To do eithier of the above you will need to turn off the water to the citern as that blue bell thing rises up when cistern fulls to stop water of you remove it with water still on, water will start to enter the cistern the same way it would when you flush it and will quicky overflow.

    Hope that makes sense cos its a bit late for me

    Original Poster

    Thanks for the reply. The thing is the blue nut onwards is the issue, the sprinkling stops when the cistern is full and the valve is back its normal position. When flushed and the float sinks the sprinkling starts - so the blue bit is fine it's the area after where it opens when float is sunk or shut when float is risen. Stupid things! lol

    It would not be a big job to replace the blue nut onwards, as long as you turn off the water supply to cisten

    Original Poster

    PrideandPassion;5161279

    It would not be a big job to replace the blue nut onwards, as long as you … It would not be a big job to replace the blue nut onwards, as long as you turn off the water supply to cisten


    Hopefully! Will have to go and visit b&q tomorrow! lol

    Any idea what that is called lol?

    Oh and thanks for your help!

    Just noticed a spraying sound in the cistern of my en-suite. Opened it up … Just noticed a spraying sound in the cistern of my en-suite. Opened it up and noticed that a part is spraying water, once the toilet is flushed. So I refilled the cistern and then the float went up and no water is spraying.



    What am I missing? Is that not how all bogs operate?

    Shengis;5161539

    What am I missing? Is that not how all bogs operate?



    I was thinking the same thing myself.
    As long as the valve shuts off when the cistern is full what's the problem?
    I presume that you have checked the overflow pipe if there is one, some have an internal overflow.

    Shengis;5161539

    What am I missing? Is that not how all bogs operate?



    +1

    Your toilet is working ok, don't go changing anything. :thumbsup:

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    SkippyDoo;5161166

    Thanks for the reply mate! Can I not just unscrew only that part with its … Thanks for the reply mate! Can I not just unscrew only that part with its replacement? Is that possible or does the whole thing need replacing?



    They whole thing is less than a tenner at any DIY store anyway, so dont worry, and they are easy to replace. Mine are always going, they dont make em like they used to :roll:

    But you can get a washer to replace, probably what has gone, you may find the blue screw thingy is loose, try hand tightening it, this may solve your problem

    Do you live in a limescale area? i had a similar problem and some limescale had gone in to a small stone like object and as soon as i got this out it worked fine, so check for a build up of (lets call it crud)and remove it but other than that as it stops spraying when full DON'T WORRY not a problem no action required

    Original Poster

    doberman;5161687

    I was thinking the same thing myself.As long as the valve shuts off when … I was thinking the same thing myself.As long as the valve shuts off when the cistern is full what's the problem?I presume that you have checked the overflow pipe if there is one, some have an internal overflow.



    lol..I understand that's how it works....but it shouldn't require me to fill the cistern up it should do that itself.

    I'll have another look and follow the advice given here.

    So until I fill the cistern up myself then it is still spraying.

    PrideandPassion;5170007

    Is this what you … Is this what you need?http://www.screwfix.com/prods/14716/Plumbing/Toilet-Fittings/Torbeck-Side-Entry-Toilet-Cistern-Valve




    no skippy's is a bottom entry :whistling:


    either replace the rubber diaphragm behind the big blue nut (don't stab yourself on the little pin)
    or buy a complete torbeck bottom entry valve and replace it from the small blue nut.

    don't over tighten any fittings!

    My apologies

    is this any better

    screwfix.com/pro…lve

    :whistling:

    Original Poster

    Hi there

    Many Thanks for trying to help out! I went to B&Q and bought a new float valve and replaced it! lol

    Many Thanks tho! :thumbsup:

    SkippyDoo;5171535

    Hi thereMany Thanks for trying to help out mate! I went to B&Q and bought … Hi thereMany Thanks for trying to help out mate! I went to B&Q and bought a new float valve and replaced it! lolMany Thanks tho! :thumbsup:



    Good good, hope all is working ok :thumbsup:
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