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any tips on easing the pain with Sciatic??

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Found 16th May 2011
as some will know ive got major spinal problems, but Friday my leg gave out again and i fell down stairs, Spoken to the hospital who told me to see my gp which i did today and as i had already guessed ive trapped my sciatic nerve somewhere in my left leg bum area ( where i landed)
nothing my gp or the hospital can/will give me other then the pain killers i already take, was hoping someone might have a tip on how to ease the pain because my normal painkillers ( co-codamol 30/500) dont help

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Get wasted.

I had to put up with back pain for years , my doctor would not recommend a thing for me ,whether it be painkillers ,physio ,chiropractors . He said I should massage the lower back when I feel a muscle spasm coming . Thing is , in my case I got no warning . If I sneezed or sat or turned I just hit the floor and was virtually paralised waiste down .I would have to spend a week or two lying flat on the living room floor .I went to a chiropractor on my own accord , it cost me a fortune but they helped . The last attack was sciatica , on all left side joints , hip ,ankle,knee .Constant pain ,day and night . I went back to my chiropracter ,but this time he suggested Acupuncture ....I never wanted this but it was the only thing I had never tried .
3 needles and was left for 10 minutes . Pain totally gone . I went back a week later the another 3 needles and have NEVER ever been back . If I only had this treament years earlier I could have saved about a grand and lost wages .
Acupunture may not help everyone ,but it is worth a try . It certainly helped me .

My story is as Ricko, but for me i see an osteopath. I started with going every 2 weeks (3 sessions via a groupon offer) currently one every 7 weeks. This should be 2-3 sessions and then should be every 6 months. I no longer have cocodamol or dicloflex which was costing £10-14 per month.

But as mentioned everyone will have something different work for them, it's just a case of not waiting around for the nhs and to try and see what's best for you.

if at all possible hang youself UPSIDE down my hubby had this problem for years and he bought a inversion table http://www.amazon.co.uk/Professional-Medicarn-Therapy-Inversion-Comercial/dp/B003CS0XWC/ref=sr_1_2?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1305555528&sr=1-2
Honestly its the best money we have ever spent, well worth looking into

When I had sciatica many years ago, it remains to be the most painful experience I have ever had and initially my GP gave me Co-codamol which had no effect on me so I went back and convinced them to give me something stronger. I was taking a cocktail of Diazepam, Ibuprofen and Tramadol. Side effects of Tramadol for me was vomiting (after the high wore off), luminous orange pee and hallucinations. The side effects were worth it because it totally blocked off my pain receptors and I was able to attempt walking again.

I wouldn’t wish sciatica on my worst enemy, I remember just waking up and not being able to move my lower half, I thought I was paralysed. The whole episode lasted 2-3 months and thankfully I have never had it again for nearly 10 years now.

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wow thank you all for the tips guys, i take co codamol and amytriptalyn ( sorry bout the spelling) have been on these for the last 10 + years, tried tramadol and got so used to them they completely stopped working, not sure about hanging upside down might cause more problems with the rest of my spine, i am thinking about acupuncture there is a local clinic that does it, the only thing left for me to take is morphine and with kids you just cant,
did anyone find any benefit with heat/cold patches??
im getting to my wits end now because ive waited 2 years to see my surgeon for the follow up appointment for the results of my last MRI scan, because hes gone part time, my gp is to frightened to try anything with out the surgeons say so, i think 28 years of back problems is long enough

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mumbojumbo

Take the max dose of co-codamol and add an anti-inflammatory if you're … Take the max dose of co-codamol and add an anti-inflammatory if you're not already taking one?Small dose of valium (diazepam) can help too.If there's any numbness or tingling in the bum area, difficulty passing water or a poo then go to A&E straight away.


thanks hun ive been told that a few times now but my bum is numb anyway lol no other problems thankfully

i take a mix of mst,gabapentin,and diazapan,and get acupunture every 10wks,does not get rid of ain,but makes it more manageable,ask your doc to refer you to pain clinic,good luck

ricko

I had to put up with back pain for years , my doctor would not recommend … I had to put up with back pain for years , my doctor would not recommend a thing for me ,whether it be painkillers ,physio ,chiropractors . He said I should massage the lower back when I feel a muscle spasm coming . Thing is , in my case I got no warning . If I sneezed or sat or turned I just hit the floor and was virtually paralised waiste down .I would have to spend a week or two lying flat on the living room floor .I went to a chiropractor on my own accord , it cost me a fortune but they helped . The last attack was sciatica , on all left side joints , hip ,ankle,knee .Constant pain ,day and night . I went back to my chiropracter ,but this time he suggested Acupuncture ....I never wanted this but it was the only thing I had never tried .3 needles and was left for 10 minutes . Pain totally gone . I went back a week later the another 3 needles and have NEVER ever been back . If I only had this treament years earlier I could have saved about a grand and lost wages .Acupunture may not help everyone ,but it is worth a try . It certainly helped me .



I'd agree with this. My dad has sciatica at the moment, has done since January sometime. He's been to chiropractors, physio etc. and nothing helped. He eventually tried acupuncture out of desperation, and it seems to working albeit not as fast as it did in ricko's case. To put it another way, he couldn't sit for more than 2 mins before, now he's able to sit resonably comfortably on a plane for over 3 hours...

You asked about heat patches, I tried them but found them to be rather useless. I would feel an initial warmth for all of 5 minutes then nothing. If you have a wheat bag, what I found brought a lot of relief was to heat one up in the microwave and place it on my lower back. The good thing about wheat bags is you don’t have to worry about hot water spilling out (hot water bottles) or being scalded and they retain heat for longer.

Have you tried Pilates? I was advised to try it to help strengthen my core muscles and back and I can honestly say I think it has helped me tremendously and I would probably consider it testament to the fact I haven’t had a return of sciatica in so long.

Are you a woman OP? Are you by chance overweight? Do you have a big bust? Have you always had back problems?

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fluffyundacrakas

You asked about heat patches, I tried them but found them to be rather … You asked about heat patches, I tried them but found them to be rather useless. I would feel an initial warmth for all of 5 minutes then nothing. If you have a wheat bag, what I found brought a lot of relief was to heat one up in the microwave and place it on my lower back. The good thing about wheat bags is you don’t have to worry about hot water spilling out (hot water bottles) or being scalded and they retain heat for longer. Have you tried Pilates? I was advised to try it to help strengthen my core muscles and back and I can honestly say I think it has helped me tremendously and I would probably consider it testament to the fact I haven’t had a return of sciatica in so long. Are you a woman OP? Are you by chance overweight? Do you have a big bust? Have you always had back problems?


ive used a hot water bottle a few times when its really bad, ive got the wheat bags but they are so small they dont help, I'm a woman hun, not over weight, not got a big bust lol. ive had back problems since i was 13 years old im 41 this year, stared with an old git who lived next door swinging a huge metal gate against my back and the handle caught me in my lower spine, ive seen so many different specialist over the years they all kept saying its because i am tall ( 6ft 1in) that i have back problems, ive worked in hotels all my working life so loads of lifting but when i was pregnant i didnt have any pain then i had an epidural and thats started it all over again, i had a disc removed and fused in 2004 and its the worst thing ive ever had, so its left me with degenerate disc disease, prolapsed discs and sciatic, which ive made worse by falling down the stairs,
i get the feeling sometimes that my GP and Surgeon have given up but dont know how to tell me, and as my gp is to worried to try anything new its making me to worried but ive got to try something, its getting to the point now that i cant get in and out of bed and i volunteer with my sons scouts group which i love doing and i dont think im going to be able to do that anymore,

thanks for the tip with the heat patches wont waste money on them,

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mumbojumbo

If there's any numbness or tingling in the bum area



I get this a lot!

Coccyx

My mum suffered from this for ages then went to an osteopath and it really help, it was the only thing that did. Hope you feel better soon, good luck.

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thank you all for the tips, looks like im going to try acupuncture, made the first appointment for next Monday. fingers crossed

I have sciatica at the moment & my pain is mainly in the buttock as well, I'm having physio & I've been told it's to do with the Piriformis muscle in the buttock & to stretch that out - there are different ways of doing it have a look here at the chair stretch http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/flexibilityandstretching/qt/Piriformis_str.htm

You can also do this by lying on your back, same positioning as the chair stretch method but obviously lying down & instead of leaning your body forward you pull the good leg towards you therefore stretching the bad leg. It's also shown on the same website. sportsmedicine.about.com/od/…htm
Edited by: "lyzzys321" 16th May 2011

Just to add , there's 'no rule of thumb ' when it comes to remedies for back pain .Everyone's symtems and cures will be different , thats why they recon when it comes to folk having days off work with back pain ...........it's difficult to prove either way .Try diferent things , change your posture when sitting , try one of those special chairs ,excercise more too .I went out and bought a bike ........not a Ducati 900s ! but a pedal bike and found this helped doing a 5 mile trip before tea. I really felt better fot it too. My chiropractor said a fat tummy [beer belly ] afects the back and he said drink lots of water .
As said , try a few things to see if it eases the pain .I hope you get sorted and report your findings on here regarding the accupuncture .

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ricko

Just to add , there's 'no rule of thumb ' when it comes to remedies … Just to add , there's 'no rule of thumb ' when it comes to remedies for back pain .Everyone's symtems and cures will be different , thats why they recon when it comes to folk having days off work with back pain ...........it's difficult to prove either way .Try diferent things , change your posture when sitting , try one of those special chairs ,excercise more too .I went out and bought a bike ........not a Ducati 900s ! but a pedal bike and found this helped doing a 5 mile trip before tea. I really felt better fot it too. My chiropractor said a fat tummy [beer belly ] afects the back and he said drink lots of water .As said , try a few things to see if it eases the pain .I hope you get sorted and report your findings on here regarding the accupuncture .



totally agree with you, I remember years ago my boss calling me a liar when i called in sick because i couldnt walk, it was the day Princess Di passed away, 2 days later i was rushed to A&E and put on traction to stretch the nerve. if people dont have back pain or never had it then they think your faking it. as for the beer belly lol, i'm T-Total hun, 6ft1 tall and only just touched 12st so no problem with a gut lol, but thanks for the tip.

lyzzys321 thanks for those links, i cant do those at the moment but will try them once im in less pain, as for today i can barely walk, sitting/laying is hell, waiting for my surgeon's secretary to ring me back to see if i can see him before my next appointment in 12 weeks time

I had a first sciatic attack a couple of months back. Was told to take painkillers and diazepam. (I already had these as like you I have suffered lowerback problems previously)
The diazepam is a muscle relaxant and should assist with recovery and stop the pain of the different muscles fighting against each other as the body attempts to recover.

I feel for you. I thought I had had a stroke when it occured as couldnt stand up without falling over as you have said.

Just a hint. Dont attempt to force a recovery by trying to work through the pain. I tried this and only ended up with worse cramps. Really agonising ones that made me scream out. You will know when you can manage to get about unassisted.again. Hopefully it wont take too long.

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my GP wont give me anything stronger then I'm already on , feeling better tonight taken lots of painkillers, and sat with a hot water bottle on my back all day, My surgeon cant see me before my appointment date, i think if its no better in the next couple of days might have to go for an xray just to be sure the cage didnt move, will let you know how i get on with acupuncture

Theres probably a really good chance that you already know what area of your spine is giving you problems but when I had my attack I found a good website on the internet that gave qiute a good understanding of what was occuring together with infomation relating as to what discs may be involved.
This can be largely determined by how far the pain travelled down your leg and the areas where the pain is still the worst.

Months later I still have some degree of numbness in my big toe. My attack went right down to the toes. And I have a slight gait while walking. But the buttock numbness and most of the rest has resolved.

I was forced to lie almost moitionless for several days which made bathroom activities an almost an impossible task. If you have people to assist you, make use of them as much as possible. Failing that I found hooking a walking stick over a door allowed me to pull myself upright and walking with two sticks to keep your balance is essential until you get some feeling back.
Do not attempt to bend. Better to use an upside down walking stick to bring items within reach.
Work only with items that are on the level. That means no bending for any household tasks including food preparation.

It hopefully will resolve ok. I couldnt even roll over in bed when it first occured. I have had another attack of back pain since but no further sciatica.
As others have said it is urgent if you lose control of your bowel area, but hopefully you are on the mend again now.

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thanks hun, yes i know where my problems are in my spine, have done for the last 15 years, before that no one could tell me what the problem was,
finally today its easing off so i can at least sit on the sofa lol, ive always got numb legs both of them because of the other problems, and my left leg drags a little has done since i had my op, the looks you get of some people! LOL i swear people think im drunk!
My legs are always covered in bruises where ive banged them and not noticed, but this fall has made my left leg worse then normal,
thank you all once again for your tips, for those with back problems hopefully they will ease soon,
as for me hubby is off work for the next 2 days so he can run around with our son and the school

I had this, awful!!! Was sent to physo, didn't work until they tried acupuncture...totally fixed in two sessions...never had pain since and that was a year ago!

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quick update, the acupuncture didnt happen the poor woman was terrified when i told her what was wrong. so i ended up in A&E because the pains gotten worse over the weekend, badly bruised my tailbone, trapped the nerve ( which i knew) DR told me to rest for the next few days gave me a cocktail of painkillers and Diazapan , xrays didnt show to much really but when he poked my lower spine i almost passed out, He is sending a letter to my GP & surgeon to advise them on whats wrong and what pain killers he gave me,
thanks you all for your tips, i have passed them on to friends who have back problems as i think until i see the surgeon I'm a lost cause lol.
thanks again guys

Do you get pain anywhere else?

When I had my first few bouts of back pain the first thing I did was buy an orthopedic matress.
imo its one of the best investments I have made.
If I am having problems I stay away from low or comfortable seating as I find a firmer surface provides better support. So no sofa, only things like dining chairs or my bed.

It sounds as if you have had some enforced appointments at a time when you really needed to rest. This has aggravated the situation. Diazepam, for me, also acts as a sleeping pill. It might be the best solution for you for a while.

I saw this the other day
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8525030/New-gel-could-solve-back-pain-scientists-say.html

Its a pity is not going to be available for a while. Stay as still as you can. Damage to the spinal cord could have really serious consequences.

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Kitten13

Do you get pain anywhere else?


yes hun lower spine, both legs right down to my toes, hips basically all my lower half.
WoolyM. its hard to stay still when you've got kids and volunteer with kids groups, Ive got an orthopaedic mattress which isnt much good to be honest, so far the Diazepan has made me feel sick not sleepy lol, the gel in the article sounds wonderful, if only it was available. have you read some of the comments posted below the article?? bmluklinski . his comments about discs not causing the pain is total bull! having a look at his website now

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well ive just read this article on this imbeciles website and i'll love to slap his face! ive always had perfect posture and long legs
http://www.theluklinskispineclinic.com/clinic/en/causes/conditionDegenerativeDiscDisease.html
my disease is caused by having a bump on the spine when i was 13 then working fo r20+ years in restaurants and being tall! the man is a fool
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