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    Anyone else slightly surprised that they released the man suspected of murder?

    Well feeling rather guilty actually as everytime I seen the man's face I would say 'oh god he really looks like a evil cold blooded killer'. Now it seems I am prob wrong. :s

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    not really, the longer it went on without charge the more i thought perhaps it wasn't him, just because he looks creepy, doesn't make it so.

    But, there is definately something odd about the whole thing, it is like an episode of columbo, missing pizza, keys, coat etc inside the flat with no signs of forced entry or a struggle.#

    I used to live not far from where it happened...


    oh, and another thing, if it ISN'T him, why is his photo all over the papers and the net? this will wreck his life either way won;t it?

    Edited by: "jayjayuk1234" 1st Jan 2010

    Supermod

    At the moment they obviously don't have enough evidence to formally charge him. It doesn't mean that he will not be called in again.

    Who?

    sameena1

    Who?



    martian?

    He shouldn't have been in the papers until the police had at least charged him. If they don't find whodunnit then this man will always be linked with it...another colin stagg situation

    forest2002

    martian?


    Who, no serioisly i haven't been watching tv lately, who was it what did he do? god i'm such a nosey parker i hate it when i don't know something lol

    Evidence can always be made up in some sense, that may sound bad but what I mean is he could be innocent and circumstantial evidence could find him guilty just like a guilty person could be thought of as innocent due to the circumstantial evidence.

    He's not been released without charge just in bail, so they have until his bail date to find concrete evidence, they are quiet possibly waiting for the forensics on the car. But he's not been ruled out yet

    sameena1

    Who, no serioisly i haven't been watching tv lately, who was it what did … Who, no serioisly i haven't been watching tv lately, who was it what did he do? god i'm such a nosey parker i hate it when i don't know something lol



    thesun.co.uk/sol…tml

    baceysilly

    He's not been released without charge just in bail, so they have until … He's not been released without charge just in bail, so they have until his bail date to find concrete evidence, they are quiet possibly waiting for the forensics on the car. But he's not been ruled out yet



    I can't find any news on it whatsoever.

    midjet666

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3320820/Joanna-Yeates-was-strangled.html



    oh yeah thanks for that yeah if looks are to go by i wouldn't of let him out on bail ewww creepy

    If he's found to be innocent i hope the papers are some way crucified over the complete character assassination they done on the man.

    I think its quite sad the way the tabloid press have portrayed him, same old sensationalised carp!
    I'll of course be eating my words if he's charged, but innocent until proven guillty??? oO

    forest2002

    www.bbc.co.uk/newshth



    Thank you. I agree with what others have said, if he's innocent, the papers will hopefully end up in huge trouble. If it was me or my family, I'd be livid that I'd been accused of a crime I hadn't committed!

    His hairstyle should be an arrestable offence alone.

    Goonieman

    If he's found to be innocent i hope the papers are some way crucified … If he's found to be innocent i hope the papers are some way crucified over the complete character assassination they done on the man.



    When I saw him on the news the photographers were running in front of him when he was trying to get into his home and taking photographs.

    Vultures.

    Banned

    me and my mate are both quite worried now they released him......

    ryouga

    When I saw him on the news the photographers were running in front of him … When I saw him on the news the photographers were running in front of him when he was trying to get into his home and taking photographs.Vultures.



    They're legal stalkers.

    Zer0Cool

    me and my mate are both quite worried now they released him......



    I think you'll be ok oO

    Zer0Cool

    me and my mate are both quite worried now they released him......



    Late with your rent?

    Banned

    thesaint

    Late with your rent?


    i own my house but that's a funny reply

    The guy might be innocent, but the media make the hate wagon and everyone jumps on it.

    Even if he's completely ruled out. I think it's ruined his life. Who'd want to be a tenant of his now? Would you speak to him in the same way?

    I don't think the media should report anything until people are actually charged. As whenever someone is arrested, they paint them as immediately guilty and that person might never shake that off.

    So many news stories people mention and ask for 'source?'. When the British media rarely has to state it's own sources anyway.

    The police would of charged him if they thought he was guilty. They wouldn't of let him out on bale if they thought he was dangerous. so maybe he is innocent
    But the media have portrayed him as guilty and they should of been more responsible, if he is innocent its too late and his life will never be the same again.

    Some people are unusual and strange, that isn't a crime. I would hazard a guess that the guy has some condition such as Asperger Syndrome. It's not very nice to talk ill of people you do not know and are less fortunate than yourself at fitting in with society, we'll all be kicking people out of wheelchairs and laughing next if that sort of behaviour is acceptable. Have you never heard of something called "evidence"?

    The story should not have gone to the media as he's been given trial by media. Even if there is no evidence and he is never charged, and noone else is found guilty, he will now have to face idiots like many of those discussing him on these forums victimising him and attacking him for the rest of his life. When he may already have difficulty integrating with society it doesn't help, and will no doubt destroy his mental health and will probably end up committing suicide - kind of murder by-proxy. It's like this pointless Paedophile bashing everyone seems to think is right news.sky.com/sky…oln I mean trying to justify murder in court by saying you thought he was a paedophile, how pathetic can you get.

    anewman

    Some people are unusual and strange, that isn't a crime. I would hazard a … Some people are unusual and strange, that isn't a crime. I would hazard a guess that the guy has some condition such as Asperger Syndrome. It's not very nice to talk ill of people you do not know and are less fortunate than yourself at fitting in with society, we'll all be kicking people out of wheelchairs and laughing next if that sort of behaviour is acceptable. Have you never heard of something called "evidence"? The story should not have gone to the media as he's been given trial by media. Even if there is no evidence and he is never charged, and noone else is found guilty, he will now have to face idiots like many of those discussing him on these forums victimising him and attacking him for the rest of his life. When he may already have difficulty integrating with society it doesn't help, and will no doubt destroy his mental health and will probably end up committing suicide - kind of murder by-proxy. It's like this pointless Paedophile bashing everyone seems to think is righthttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Shaun-Rossington-Killing-Five-Convicted-Of-Beating-21-Year-Old-To-Death-In-Lincoln/Article/201012315858027?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15858027_Shaun_Rossington_Killing%3A_Five_Convicted_Of_Beating_21-Year-Old_To_Death_In_Lincoln I mean trying to justify murder in court by saying you thought he was a paedophile, how pathetic can you get.



    Every single one of these low-lifes should have been hanged in a public execution while their families watched.

    its the boyfriend

    As for this murder investigation suspect reported by the Sun.....well we all know that the Sun newspaper only publishes the truth and nothing but the truth.

    Another case of the media manipulating society and moulding into a Britain full of stereotypes and mob rule behaviour.

    This guy was a retired school teacher, and just because he looks a bit unusual, it doesn't make him guilty.
    Trial by media has replaced trial by courts.
    The media & newspapers should be regulated more, including the BBC who are as bad as any of the red tops

    Edited by: "bigflump" 2nd Jan 2010

    anewman

    Some people are unusual and strange, that isn't a crime. I would hazard a … Some people are unusual and strange, that isn't a crime. I would hazard a guess that the guy has some condition such as Asperger Syndrome. It's not very nice to talk ill of people you do not know and are less fortunate than yourself at fitting in with society, we'll all be kicking people out of wheelchairs and laughing next if that sort of behaviour is acceptable. Have you never heard of something called "evidence"? The story should not have gone to the media as he's been given trial by media. Even if there is no evidence and he is never charged, and noone else is found guilty, he will now have to face idiots like many of those discussing him on these forums victimising him and attacking him for the rest of his life. When he may already have difficulty integrating with society it doesn't help, and will no doubt destroy his mental health and will probably end up committing suicide - kind of murder by-proxy. It's like this pointless Paedophile bashing everyone seems to think is right http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Shaun-Rossington-Killing-Five-Convicted-Of-Beating-21-Year-Old-To-Death-In-Lincoln/Article/201012315858027?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15858027_Shaun_Rossington_Killing%3A_Five_Convicted_Of_Beating_21-Year-Old_To_Death_In_Lincoln I mean trying to justify murder in court by saying you thought he was a paedophile, how pathetic can you get.



    I've got a few friends with aspergers, and when you look at photos of him, he's got that sort of vacant look that my friends have. It would also tie in with why he's a batchelor, a lot of them struggle to interact and have a "normal" relationship with someone.

    midjet666

    I've got a few friends with aspergers, and when you look at photos of … I've got a few friends with aspergers, and when you look at photos of him, he's got that sort of vacant look that my friends have. It would also tie in with why he's a batchelor, a lot of them struggle to interact and have a "normal" relationship with someone.



    Yep, I havent had a girlfriend in a few years, not as I am undateable as some would think but because I like to be alone, but at same time hate being lonely, I struggle to get into a relationship despite having some chances because I want to do what I want when I want, and would find it hard to keep concentration on my partner.

    ryouga

    Yep, I havent had a girlfriend in a few years, not as I am undateable as … Yep, I havent had a girlfriend in a few years, not as I am undateable as some would think but because I like to be alone, but at same time hate being lonely, I struggle to get into a relationship despite having some chances because I want to do what I want when I want, and would find it hard to keep concentration on my partner.



    I've been with my partner for 6 years and I suffer depression. My personality has changed over the 6 years and although I enjoy spending time with my partner, I shut virtually everyone else out. If friends come round I can't cope and I end up having to go upstairs. It's hard to explain to others how you are. Maybe if you tried online dating and stated how you are? There's someone who won't mind these things and will accept you for who you are.

    Most of the regulars on here had him " guilty as charged " the other day, some just because of his appearance... very worrying.

    some of the comments on here are simply astonishing....

    Good to know that we live in a society that does not hold a person in jail without sufficient evidence.

    How bad is it to deprive an innocent person of their freedom while the murderer is still free?

    grah800

    He shouldn't have been in the papers until the police had at least … He shouldn't have been in the papers until the police had at least charged him. If they don't find whodunnit then this man will always be linked with it...another colin stagg situation



    Am definitely guilty in believing he was the murderer in that horrific case - that case was just unbelievable re the media involvement. Though he didnt help himself in admitting to that undercover policewoman that he had done it oO
    Edited by: "bossyboots" 2nd Jan 2010

    bossyboots

    Though he didnt help himself in admitting to that undercover policewoman … Though he didnt help himself in admitting to that undercover policewoman that he had done it oO


    This is why Honeypot methods are actually illegal. He probably admitted it as she was banging on about how turned on she would be about it or some junk like that trying to get him to admit it, and he'd probably have said he was Elvis Presley if that's what she was trying to get him to say. Plus I think it's disgusting the Police even consider using the position of a relationship as a method of gaining evidence. There are other things that can happen in relationships that can get taken out of context otherwise such as BDSM. While things may be entirely consensual, legal, and within a relationship, BDSM can involve aspects of role play which transcend reality and may be particularly disturbing or interpreted very differently by people from outside the relationship. One example could be role play rape, which may be seen as a big turn on/enjoyable by both practising it - but someone listening in may ring the police.

    My point is the fact he said he did it doesn't stand for much, especially if he thought he was getting into her panties, and she was no doubt leading him on as it was her "mission" to get him to admit it.
    Edited by: "anewman" 2nd Jan 2010

    anewman

    This is why Honeypot methods are actually illegal. He probably admitted … This is why Honeypot methods are actually illegal. He probably admitted it as she was banging on about how turned on she would be about it or some junk like that trying to get him to admit it, and he'd probably have said he was Elvis Presley if that's what she was trying to get him to say. Plus I think it's disgusting the Police even consider using the position of a relationship as a method of gaining evidence. There are other things that can happen in relationships that can get taken out of context otherwise such as BDSM. While things may be entirely consensual, legal, and within a relationship, BDSM can involve aspects of role play which transcend reality and may be particularly disturbing or interpreted very differently by people from outside the relationship. One example could be role play rape, which may be seen as a big turn on/enjoyable by both practising it - but someone listening in may ring the police.My point is the fact he said he did it doesn't stand for much, especially if he thought he was getting into her panties, and she was no doubt leading him on as it was her "mission" to get him to admit it.



    There was a lot of speculation about him being gay, so he may not have been "trying to get into her panties". And would the police really risk a policewoman leading him on, as his defence could use this to say he was trapped into confessing, so say he said it almost under duress. I just can't see it happening as they'd get into a lot of trouble, especially as it's become such a big case.

    Banned

    midjet666

    Yep, I havent had a girlfriend in a few years, not as I am undateable as … Yep, I havent had a girlfriend in a few years, not as I am undateable as some would think but because I like to be alone, but at same time hate being lonely, I struggle to get into a relationship despite having some chances because I want to do what I want when I want, and would find it hard to keep concentration on I've been with my partner for 6 years and I suffer depression. My personality has changed over the 6 years and although I enjoy spending time with my partner, I shut virtually everyone else out. If friends come round I can't cope and I end up having to go upstairs. It's hard to explain to others how you are. Maybe if you tried online dating and stated how you are? There's someone who won't mind these things and will accept you for who you are.



    Midget666 I admire your confidence to talk openly about your depression.

    There are a lot of low life's on this forum who like to mock ill people.

    I hope your depression get's easier for you to cope with this year and you get all the support you need x x

    DLM

    Midget666 I admire your confidence to talk openly about your … Midget666 I admire your confidence to talk openly about your depression.There are a lot of low life's on this forum who like to mock ill people.I hope your depression get's easier for you to cope with this year and you get all the support you need x x



    Thank you. My nan suffers from anxiety and she doesn't like to tell anyone, she's ashamed of it, but I'm not ashamed of my depression. I can't help it, the crap I've been through- the majority of people would suffer from depression. If people want to mock me, they can. They say what goes around, comes around. If/When they suffer from it, they won't be mocking people then. It's a horrible thing but it's so common, it's just some people aren't so open about it.
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