anyone know about trains and reserved seating?

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Found 11th Aug 2010
need to know if you reserve seats on a train do you have to sit in them if they're not together (as in several seats away from your kids) or if they've put you in quite coach and you have kids?
But if i dont reserve seats what happens if there's no seats when we get on the train? (the train website is really rubbish)

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Banned

I guess if you reserve a seat then you have to sit in that seat.

Supermod

If you don't reserve any and there are no seats you have to stand up or not sit down...

You can not sit in someone else reserved seat but you can sit in an unreserved seat.

Strangely if you reserve seats you are expected to sit in them! If you get on a train and there are no seats you have to stand!! oO oO

Original Poster

it's an 8 hour journey with 2 kids and when i go to book the tickets they keep putting it in the quiet coach and i can't stop it from doing it - i was only asking as i've never had the whole "booking tickets" thing before and didn't know if you could change them or anything once they were booked etc

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babybutton

it's an 8 hour journey with 2 kids and when i go to book the tickets they … it's an 8 hour journey with 2 kids and when i go to book the tickets they keep putting it in the quiet coach and i can't stop it from doing it - i was only asking as i've never had the whole "booking tickets" thing before and didn't know if you could change them or anything once they were booked etc



Can you not ring them?

If you reserve seats they will be specific, ie 33A like in an aeroplane when you get assigned a seat. If the train is not full I guess you could remove the paper reservation ticket on the chair and sit elsewhere, but if I was you I'd book the tickets at the same time to ensure they are next to each other and I doubt that the train company would reserve seats for children who have a child's ticket into a quiet coach.

babybutton

it's an 8 hour journey with 2 kids and when i go to book the tickets they … it's an 8 hour journey with 2 kids and when i go to book the tickets they keep putting it in the quiet coach and i can't stop it from doing it - i was only asking as i've never had the whole "booking tickets" thing before and didn't know if you could change them or anything once they were booked etc



That's annoying, give them a call or go to your local station and see if you can buy them there for the same price as online.

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sickly sweet

If you reserve seats they will be specific, ie 33A like in an aeroplane … If you reserve seats they will be specific, ie 33A like in an aeroplane when you get assigned a seat. If the train is not full I guess you could remove the paper reservation ticket on the chair and sit elsewhere, but if I was you I'd book the tickets at the same time to ensure they are next to each other and I doubt that the train company would reserve seats for children who have a child's ticket into a quiet coach.

you'd think wouldn;t you - but two of the journeys (we have to change train) at three hours length each time are in quiet and i don't want to annoy other train users as my kids are usually good but once in a while they get sick of sitting still! (yes i know some people on here will jump on the "well you should be able to control your kids" - so thought i'd just say that they're going to fidget after aq few hours of not being allowed to make noise plus it's meant to be a holiday for them and sitting silently for hours is not my idea of giving my kids a holiday) but they know that two of the tickets are kids and they keep on putting quiet coach on the booking - and their office hours are until 11 so i can't ring them as go on holiday tomorrow so can't fix it then. I really don't know why you can't specify "none quiet" but can specify quiet or no preference - apparently no preference when you have 2 kids and one adult is quiet! lol
well thanks anyway people - i suppose i'll just have to find out when i get there if i'm allowed to change seating arrangements - will the people at the ticket desk be able to tell me this or will it be the ticket inspector people on the train?

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dcx_badass

The seats are marked out on the train, you can sit elsewhere, but please … The seats are marked out on the train, you can sit elsewhere, but please pull the reserved things out of your other seats so others can sit there.

are you sure that's allowed - i won't get in trouble or anything for not sitting where i'm meant to? (although if there are no other seats i suppose i have no choice - it's just i want to make sure that my kids have a good time but not at the expense of irritating other people who have specifically chosen to be in quiet coach!
how do you add to peoples rep now - have they taken it away?
Edited by: "babybutton" 11th Aug 2010

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sickly sweet

If you reserve seats they will be specific, ie 33A like in an aeroplane … If you reserve seats they will be specific, ie 33A like in an aeroplane when you get assigned a seat. If the train is not full I guess you could remove the paper reservation ticket on the chair and sit elsewhere, but if I was you I'd book the tickets at the same time to ensure they are next to each other and I doubt that the train company would reserve seats for children who have a child's ticket into a quiet coach.



Cracking advice, You do know there's a £200 fine for removing a reserved ticket from a seat?

So there goes the op's spending monies

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lottysdad08

Cracking advice, You do know there's a £200 fine for removing a reserved … Cracking advice, You do know there's a £200 fine for removing a reserved ticket from a seat? So there goes the op's spending monies

lol - and that's why i came to ask on here as i have not got a clue about the whole rail travel thing! but my main problem lies in not wanting to annoy others - like i found another forum about rail travel and one post states "The "Quiet" coach is a good idea and I usually opt for this coach when travelling but what I find just as annoying is those that insist on yaking away at a high volume or those that bring their kids in " - which is exactly what i'm trying to avoid - i don't want to take my kids into quiet and annoy people!

OP who are u travelling with? some of the major companies to a weekend upgrade for a few pounds more and worth it for the bigger seats, free tea n coffee.

but should add that depends on what type of ticket u have eg a saver ticket gets u this cheap upgrade

Original Poster

is it bad to say i have no idea!!???! i booked via train line and know what seat numbers, what coach type but not with which train company! ha - never mind! i picked off peak return tickets but no travel on a weekend. would have no idea how to upgrade either!
never mind - i shall find all this out soon enough - as i said thanks for the help people, at least i know i might be able to get out of quiet but will find out properly before i do! thanks x

Have a great break away with the children - I hope that you have a fantastic time!

what is the journey your doing and can probably/maybe work out who the train company is

and yeah, as Sickly Sweet says................have a fantastic break away. Its such a different type of break when its just "you two"!

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lottysdad08

Cracking advice, You do know there's a £200 fine for removing a reserved … Cracking advice, You do know there's a £200 fine for removing a reserved ticket from a seat? So there goes the op's spending monies



Quit dishing out the advice - I've already directed you to complete your trade resolution. Despite many assurances and unfounded attacks, you've still not complied with it. Get it sorted now otherwise I'll have no option but to act on previous warnings issued to you.

Banned

Long gone are the days of paper reservations, well on all the trains i been on anyway its those scrolling screens now on the luggage shelf and if u dont like ur seats and there is other unreserved seats u can sit in them or if ppl dont get on at station reserved from then u can sit in them too.

baby button.. if you tell us dates/locations etc i'll have look into it for you

8 hours on a train/s sounds as thought ya going from Penzance to John O'Groats! Also, prices etc ? Have you thought about a F&F Railcard?

They may be giving you tickets in the quiet coach because that is the only one which has the no. of tickets you need still free. Perhaps it's just that the trains you have chosen are already busy/booked up. Have you tried looking at different train times? That might be an alternative to the quiet coach if it fits with your holiday plans.

bossyboots

Correct. My friend works with Virgin rail - there is always an unreserved … Correct. My friend works with Virgin rail - there is always an unreserved carriage on all trains. You can sit anywhere you like that isnt already reserved - but as Dcx_badass says, make sure u take off your reserved label from your seats



What year are you living in?! lol ive not seen a reserved "ticket" on a train in years, its all screens now! You reserved seat is shown by a small screen above the seat on the luggage rack

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dcx_badass

Well all the trains on the Leeds to York, Leeds to Newcastle line have … Well all the trains on the Leeds to York, Leeds to Newcastle line have paper things on the seat. I'll tell them that someone on HUKD said they don't exist and that everyone is imagining it next time I get on the train though.Thanks for the tip.



Maybe the trains in your area are from the 1950's.

Do they use steam? X)

I have just got back from travelling from the SW to the NW and back and I can assure you all that different companies have different reservation methods. Some have the little screens but many have the reservation tickets in the top slots of the seats. They have the seat numbers on them, which correspond to the print out from your booking and they thus cannot be exchanged for the ticket from another seat and a huge fuss would result if you did move them . None of the trains that I have been on in the past 5 days have had a carriage where you do not need a reservation. There was one train with a couple of non-reservable seats in the carriage where I was.
Yes you can sit in any seat that is not reserved; yes you can sit in a seat that is reserved for only part of the journey but you will have to move if the person who has booked that seat turns up. Yes you can sit in a seat which is reseved for the stage of the journey that you are on but the reservee has not turned up.
If you haven't got a reserved seat and the train is full,then you will have to sit/stand in the exit area or in the aisle. No-one will give up their seat for you.
It will not be any use to ask at the station or phone or whatever to try to change allocated seats.

The reserved seats are always allocated in a block as near together as is available. You will not be in a different carriage to your children. Anyone in the quiet carriage is expected to be quiet but not silent.
Edited by: "chesso" 12th Aug 2010

aScottishBloke

Quit dishing out the advice - I've already directed you to complete your … Quit dishing out the advice - I've already directed you to complete your trade resolution. Despite many assurances and unfounded attacks, you've still not complied with it. Get it sorted now otherwise I'll have no option but to act on previous warnings issued to you.




Probably too busy dealing with all 3 disputes over on av forums


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You can sit in any unreserved seat and you won't get into trouble. Remove the reserved tickets from the seats you have reserved out of common courtesy for other passengers, no point making others stand unecessarily if the train fills up. It's possible that the non quiet coaches are already full but somebody may be prepared to swap. I was on a long train journey on Monday and the train wasn't even a third full so hopefully you will be fine and have plenty of choice of where to sit. Good luck, I know long journeys with kids can be a nightmare however well behaved they are

did you get sorted with tickets?

You can all go and sit in unreserved coach then all sit together

You can all go and sit in unreserved coach then all sit together nearly 2 years ago.

Ennui

You can all go and sit in unreserved coach then all sit together nearly 2 … You can all go and sit in unreserved coach then all sit together nearly 2 years ago.



X) Nearly commented as it was near the top of the discussed list.

avfcniall

X) Nearly commented as it was near the top of the discussed list.

Me too, just noticed in time so rather than being helpful I got to be a smart ****.
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